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danny waters sr 03-18-2011 07:23 AM

Re: 2011 4.6 3 valve Ford Ok'd for stock
 
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Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN (Post 246694)
Danny, why dont you and Mike get your heads together and just jack up the hP ratings to where they belong? To many classes already. If your to lite on the first hit do it again until its right and if they get factored out of stock....make S/S cars out of them or has Ford paid off IHRA also?

I would love to do that ,but you would have to pick a veh at random maybe and dyno it and go from there. (who's gonna do that ? $$$$) But that would be expensive. Then everyone would want to dyno everybody in most classes.....Who really knows just how much HP these cars are really making.....(besides the owners)..?
Terry, Not So Famous last words of a "NOW" retired tech-man =
I don't know......
Rules are subject to change
I don't know..........
I just don't know anymore.........
I surrender too....

X-TECH MAN 03-18-2011 07:53 AM

Re: 2011 4.6 3 valve Ford Ok'd for stock
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by danny waters sr (Post 246697)
I would love to do that ,but you would have to pick a veh at random maybe and dyno it and go from there. (who's gonna do that ? $$$$) But that would be expensive. Then everyone would want to dyno everybody in most classes.....Who really knows just how much HP these cars are really making.....(besides the owners)..?
Terry, Not So Famous last words of a "NOW" retired tech-man =
I don't know......
Rules are subject to change
I don't know..........
I just don't know anymore.........
I surrender too....

Well you realize that the new 4.6 will make it into L/SA to but with seperate classes you wont have to run one heads up unless your run some NHRA. Makes the Unleashed Index classes look even better for the ones with old combos and the local combo races are another venue as long as there are no heads up runs. .

danny waters sr 03-18-2011 08:16 AM

Re: 2011 4.6 3 valve Ford Ok'd for stock
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN (Post 246700)
Well you realize that the new 4.6 will make it into L/SA to but with seperate classes you wont have to run one heads up unless your run some NHRA. Makes the Unleashed Index classes look even better for the ones with old combos and the local combo races are another venue as long as there are no heads up runs. .

I am already killed at NHRA with the reg FI classes already combined with traditional stockers... He** ,i can't even beat the old carb cars in a heads-up..
Has anybody ever wondered why Prostock don't have FI instead of carbs.?
NHRA/ UNLEASHED , here i come (12.00 index) "Heads-up every round"
IHRA/ STOCK , here i come L/SA( still too slow to win a heads-up) lol
Local racing here i come Footbrake and S/SS combos
Plenty of options as of right now.

X-TECH MAN 03-18-2011 08:18 AM

Re: 2011 4.6 3 valve Ford Ok'd for stock
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by danny waters sr (Post 246704)
I am already killed at NHRA with the reg FI classes already combined with traditional stockers... He** ,i can't even beat the old carb cars in a heads-up..
Has anybody ever wondered why Prostock don't have FI instead of carbs.?
NHRA/ UNLEASHED , here i come (12.00 index) "Heads-up every round"
IHRA/ STOCK , here i come L/SA( still too slow to win a heads-up) lol
Local racing here i come Footbrake and S/SS combos
Plenty of options as of right now.

Yep....less travel also with the cost of fuel these days.

Mike Taylor 3601 03-18-2011 10:34 AM

Re: 2011 4.6 3 valve Ford Ok'd for stock
 
I've set back and just kinda watched and listened to all the talk about the new stuff being underated and I just can't be quiet any longer,I'm tired of everyone calling all these combo bogus and underated.
I think anybody that thinks these ratings are underated does'nt know what you are talking about anyone with common sense knows these ratings are in line with what these engines are capable of.
I'm pretty confident that if you dyno any of these combos they will dyno very close to what they are rated once you have half the coil packs unhooked.LOL
Mike Taylor 3601

Bob Pagano 03-18-2011 10:39 AM

Re: 2011 4.6 3 valve Ford Ok'd for stock
 
Good call Mike, I agree 100%

Billy Nees 03-18-2011 11:01 AM

Re: 2011 4.6 3 valve Ford Ok'd for stock
 
So let us review, 2010 4.6l Mustang w/ 3valve dohc, ported, aluminium head, .476 lift cam, 2/2.5id throttle body, 11.00/1 compression, makes the same factored horsepower as that kickass, killer combo the 68 Mustang 302 windsor, 4v. Lets see, yup, both at 235 hp. It's impressive to me the amount of money and technology that went into this new motor to make the same power as one of FFFFords self acknowledged dogs.
And GM went bankrupt?

novassdude 03-18-2011 11:28 AM

Re: 2011 4.6 3 valve Ford Ok'd for stock
 
Lets face it who is going to buy and build on of these if it was rated correctly? For 75-100 Grand you should get a free pass to the top of the heap. If you want a great combo just buy all the NHRA guys a new car to drive around and then tell them what you want at what ever joke of a rating you want.

Ed Wright 03-18-2011 11:33 AM

Re: 2011 4.6 3 valve Ford Ok'd for stock
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Taylor 3601 (Post 246732)
I've set back and just kinda watched and listened to all the talk about the new stuff being underated and I just can't be quiet any longer,I'm tired of everyone calling all these combo bogus and underated.
I think anybody that thinks these ratings are underated does'nt know what you are talking about anyone with common sense knows these ratings are in line with what these engines are capable of.
I'm pretty confident that if you dyno any of these combos they will dyno very close to what they are rated once you have half the coil packs unhooked.LOL
Mike Taylor 3601

Mike I was very worried about you until I got down to the last paragraph. LMAO

Billy Nees 03-18-2011 11:51 AM

Re: 2011 4.6 3 valve Ford Ok'd for stock
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by novassdude (Post 246747)
Lets face it who is going to buy and build on of these if it was rated correctly? For 75-100 Grand you should get a free pass to the top of the heap. If you want a great combo just buy all the NHRA guys a new car to drive around and then tell them what you want at what ever joke of a rating you want.

Lets face it, I'd rather convince Racers to take me up on my "Limited Time Offer".


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