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Mark Yacavone 06-17-2011 07:34 PM
Re: Where are the lower class cars?
 
Maybe I shoulda said "RWD turbo"
Going from Speedworld to Vegas, I could go the sames times with the 4 speed and about .10- .15 slower with the automatic. Neil Smedley's Firebird was the same way.
SW is just under the correction factor, as is Bristol . LV is at least 6-700 ' higher.
Maybe Bristol is uphill to the 1/8th . It sure looks it.

GarysZ24 06-18-2011 12:48 AM
Re: Where are the lower class cars?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack Matyas (Post 264265)
Mark - My dander is fine ..........And as you know I raced lower class cars for almost thirty years so I fully understand but its not the NHRA's fault either that racers started liking fast ( as in speed ) cars .And you're right - a slow class car can easily win the combo deal along with the pewter Wally and whatever money .

One last thing - a racer can run a late model LT1 FI combo in A - B - C - D for a lot less than your quarter mill budget . Just ask Santangelo or Simmons who are competing this weekend at Bristol .
Jack, I just found out that last years altitude correction factor was changed to emulate Competition Eliminators factor. If that's truly the case, then unless/until I come up with 5g's to upgrade my engine and change my cam to one with more duration, I may never run a altitude race at an NHRA event again, because my car won't run the number...if I was home, then I'd check the corrected index for DF/S and compare it to what it was last year (after NHRA's wonderful .3 reduction from 2009's factor). They're the ones choosing to make it harder for people like me who only ran .2-.4 under the index to be competitive nowadays, and this move just went over the top! :(

Well, thanks to IHRA, at least I have options for a couple of former NHRA altitude tracks...Salt Lake City, and Tucson!!! :)

Mark Yacavone 06-18-2011 05:39 AM
Re: Where are the lower class cars?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by GarysZ24 (Post 264338)

If that's truly the case, then unless/until I come up with 5g's to upgrade my engine and change my cam to one with more duration, I may never run a altitude race at an NHRA event again, because my car won't run the number...
Gary, Is that with the new headers on the car?

Jack Matyas 06-18-2011 08:14 AM
Re: Where are the lower class cars?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by GarysZ24 (Post 264338)
Jack, I just found out that last years altitude correction factor was changed to emulate Competition Eliminators factor. If that's truly the case, then unless/until I come up with 5g's to upgrade my engine and change my cam to one with more duration, I may never run a altitude race at an NHRA event again, because my car won't run the number...if I was home, then I'd check the corrected index for DF/S and compare it to what it was last year (after NHRA's wonderful .3 reduction from 2009's factor). They're the ones choosing to make it harder for people like me who only ran .2-.4 under the index to be competitive nowadays, and this move just went over the top! :(

Well, thanks to IHRA, at least I have options for a couple of former NHRA altitude tracks...Salt Lake City, and Tucson!!! :)
Gary - I fully understand how you feel but the one thing you're forgetting is that in order to win the eliminator you don't need to run .9 under - all that is necessary is to go on the index ................And the .3 reduction was for everyone - so you're exactly where you were before .

Bob Bender 06-18-2011 08:37 AM
Re: Where are the lower class cars?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 264268)
Little cars don't like Bristol.
The air is always bad at Bristol. Been that way forever. No money is why Im not there.

Terry Cain 06-18-2011 02:17 PM
Re: Where are the lower class cars?
 
"Gary - I fully understand how you feel but the one thing you're forgetting is that in order to win the eliminator you don't need to run .9 under - all that is necessary is to go on the index ................And the .3 reduction was for everyone - so you're exactly where you were before . "

I thought you still had to run at least .5 under to qualify and run eliminations?

The Hawk 06-18-2011 02:48 PM
Re: Where are the lower class cars?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by GarysZ24 (Post 264338)
Jack, I just found out that last years altitude correction factor was changed to emulate Competition Eliminators factor. If that's truly the case, then unless/until I come up with 5g's to upgrade my engine and change my cam to one with more duration, I may never run a altitude race at an NHRA event again, because my car won't run the number...if I was home, then I'd check the corrected index for DF/S and compare it to what it was last year (after NHRA's wonderful .3 reduction from 2009's factor). They're the ones choosing to make it harder for people like me who only ran .2-.4 under the index to be competitive nowadays, and this move just went over the top! :(

Well, thanks to IHRA, at least I have options for a couple of former NHRA altitude tracks...Salt Lake City, and Tucson!!! :)
Gary,after the .30 reduction a year ago,which with the old altitude factor dropped the index at Bandimere .32. Now with the new altitude factor your index dropped another .23. Your new index up here went from a 17.14 to a 16.59 in just over a year. The lower the track,the less increase in index lowering.

G Schenck 06-18-2011 03:23 PM
Re: Where are the lower class cars?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Terry Cain (Post 264391)
"Gary - I fully understand how you feel but the one thing you're forgetting is that in order to win the eliminator you don't need to run .9 under - all that is necessary is to go on the index ................And the .3 reduction was for everyone - so you're exactly where you were before . "

I thought you still had to run at least .5 under to qualify and run eliminations?
No Terry, you have to at least dail your index.

Greg

Ed Fernandez 06-18-2011 05:18 PM
Re: Where are the lower class cars?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Terry Cain (Post 264391)
"Gary - I fully understand how you feel but the one thing you're forgetting is that in order to win the eliminator you don't need to run .9 under - all that is necessary is to go on the index ................And the .3 reduction was for everyone - so you're exactly where you were before . "

I thought you still had to run at least .5 under to qualify and run eliminations?
The .5 was class single runs.After the .3 hit that disappeared then class singles disappeared.

Daran Summerton 06-19-2011 11:32 AM
Re: Where are the lower class cars?
 
Then contingency disappeared , then the cars disappeared. At least we still have Belle Rose.


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