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Re: Congrats to Mark Faul

1st thing good job Mark!

Just to clarify.

I've never ran for a track without actually running at least one of their "points" races. This was when the rule was that you only had to be at 1 race. I've also never ran an ROC without being in the top 4 or top 2 or whatever it was back in the early 90's. Mind you, I have seen where someone was in the ROC without ever going to that track.

What I have done in the past was run at least one points race at a track to qualify for the Sunday part of the ET Finals. After awhile this rule was changed. You now have to race a minimum of 3 races just to be in the Sunday race. This has sometimes turned into 3 trips to make sure I had enough points to qualify to be on the team. When I was trying to be on Team Madras these were 10 hour round trips.

From my point of view the 3 race minimum makes no sense. It takes away potential entries from the ET Finals. Especially now when there's not many full teams competing at that race in the 1st place.

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Thanks Jody. And to quote Bruce Willis in Die Hard...."Welcome to the party pal!!!"

Come be bashed also!

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[Also, I sure didn't appreciate a guy getting in my face in the staging lanes before I raced his son on Sunday. Pretty much saying they were filing a grievance against me and he was going to shut me down at the front of the lanes and that I didn't belong in the race. It didn't happen, but he got in my head and I lost. Shame on me for letting him do that, but pretty classless.[/QUOTE]

......nothing a good hug wouldn't of solved.... LOL.... Maybe next year you come up to Drayton Valley... Good Times and no drama.
Mike

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What I can't believe is that there was no DRC coverage.

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Mark great job and now go to Pomona and win to give them even more to cry about LOL
Chris Lamb
PRO racecar team owner LOL

ps just do not understand why people put so much effort into limiting the competition instead of using that same effort to make there cars and drivers better racers?

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Originally Posted by pro7474 (Post 280648)

Mark great job and now go to Pomona and win to give them even more to cry about LOL
Chris Lamb

ps just do not understand why people put so much effort into limiting the competition instead of using that same effort to make there cars and drivers better racers?

I think its because most who would complain are afraid of two really great drivers kicking their butts. Congratulations.

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Hi Mark. :):):) Again, congrats on your win, Controversial or not. I haven't raced in years, but attend as many races as I can to visit friends. I just don't understand the problem and also having people in your face is WRONG. If you are invited by a certain track, at which you have raced, and the entry is approved by the DD then what is the problem. Shouldn't the people be upset with the DD and not you personally. I have watched you race many times and even raced against you many years ago. You did the job required and sometimes you get beat. Bottom line "Way to go Mark." Hope to talk again with you soon. Your buddy Ron in Fife.

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Originally Posted by Mark Faul (Post 280613)

Thank you guys for the congrats posts. And thanks Phillip for not "bashing" me???

Obviously I thought I was doing everything by the book. Assured a couple times that everything was legal and good to go. Scoring a race of champions victory was something on the bucket list that I've always wanted to do. Thinking that I had met the requirements to participate, I was happy to represent Medicine Hat. Great track, wonderful people, and happy to have us. As we were thrilled to race in the ET Finals!
I had planned on taking Labor Day off and do something away from racing. Go to a lake, golf, whatever!!! But when I'm invited to attend the team race, I happily accepted, since I hadn't done it in a few years. It's a shame there's so many people bitching about it now that it's done...

Also, I sure didn't appreciate a guy getting in my face in the staging lanes before I raced his son on Sunday. Pretty much saying they were filing a grievance against me and he was going to shut me down at the front of the lanes and that I didn't belong in the race. It didn't happen, but he got in my head and I lost. Shame on me for letting him do that, but pretty classless.

Let the Sunday thing go,head to Pomona and accecpt the $3500 check from Summit on Thursday night. You`ve earned it! To top it off,win the deal and enjoy the $5000 check Sunday night! Enjoy!!!

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Originally Posted by Phillip marvetz (Post 280592)

I dont want to bash Mark on this forum, Apparently I've done that enough else where. The story from what I've heard is that Mark was invited to be on a team along with 3 others from a track that did not have a enough racers for a full team and the Division director gave him the permission to race.
The DD made the call contrary to the writen rules regarding eligibilty. I've sent an email to the DD to ask why he made this call and he claims it was a loophole that the track took advantage of. I think it's B.S, The rule was changed after 2008 when one these racers got the DD to let him and few others into the E.T finals although they had not ran the required races to be allowed. The wording in the rules will probably be changed again after this episode.

The Jody Lang rule is that a racer has to compete at a track a certain amount of track races to be eligable for that team. Jody got into the finals without participating at a track for season points a couple times. It probaly would have been fine if he had raced for his home track but he raced for a small far away track that he would only maybe race at once a year. The other teams felt it was unfair and made some rules to prevent a "PRO" from feeding on the little guy's.
Now it is 3 races to be on the team and a minimum 50% of the Summit E.T bracket series races in a season to be in the Race of Champions. The loop hole is a racer can go to a double header and double enter and the track can count that as 4 races.

The controversy is these guy's got in by going to a 3 day big buck bracket race, Double entered in a non Summit E.T series Bracket race and the track says they ran 6 out of the seasons 11 races to get the needed 50%. Total fraud but the DD says it's all good. I'll be working to make sure this loophole gets closed for good even though people are calling me a internet complainer.

Once again I am not bashing Mark, He was invited by the track and given the clearance from the DD to go so he did. I'm sure he raced his butt off to get the win and he was not there to take advantage of anyone. He raced his old 51 chev in sportsman not the stocker so at least he gave the little guy's a fighting chance, LOL.

First of all if mark was in the other lane and u called me a little guy, then said he shouldnt be there so I would have a fighting chance, and that he is a pro, what do you call the other racers "scrubs" I WOULD BE PISSED if nobody gave me a chance and thought i had no chance of winning! When mark got out of bed im sure he put his **** on just like every other racer at that track did, unless they got something fishy going on. I use to love for big name racers come to my local track to see where i stood in my program. Seems like the other racers were to caught up in a dumb rule rather than focusing on the PRO? Mark please let me know where the tracks are that the racers have no chance, that are the little guys, and cant beat the pros so i can go enter! DFWA

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Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN (Post 280652)

I think its because most who would complain are afraid of two really great drivers kicking their butts. Congratulations.

..................................OR!!...........i t might be because most who would complain are those that have put in their time and entry fees supporting the Summit Series, and their local tracks throughout the whole season. Just to earn points weekend and week out, in order to even qualify for the Race of Champions. They have to sit through rainouts, hot weather, breakdowns etc. some have to travel large distance, take time off from work, sacrifice weekends, repair cars, all in order to make the next point race, cause if you miss one, its hard to make it back up. Look at Woodburns schedule......It is BRUTAL, and if you make the Race of Champions on that team, YOU are already a winner!!.......These guys for the most part have only ONE National type of event , this is it. They have to earn the right to be there. When they have earned that right, then they have to take time off from work, a lot of them drive over 8 hours one way just to get to Boise. Fuel alone is huge expense. So when they have to race against someone that is just there for his first summit race of the year, hoping to pluck off another trophy, prestige, and some cash, then it does not set well with some of those that put in the time, money and effort to earn their place in that race. There were around 400 entries at that race, and 397 or so worked their tail off all season to earn the privilege of racing there.There was no loophole in the rules at all, that is just BS, The rules are right on Div 6 website, anybody age 6 and up, can read and understand them. I think that the event in Medicine hat was NOT a summit race, and the rules quite clearly state that it has to be a Summit event. Also noticed that the points on Medicine Hats web page have been removed, struck me as unusual. Trouble with that is that he forgot about his general discussion forum, and the points update thread on there. This has stink all over it. Phillip was correct in disagreeing with the DD decision, it was the RIGHT thing to do, its called integrity!