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Ed Wright 12-04-2011 05:57 PM
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Tom, I mentioned to Wesley some guys had mentioned pulling weight to run those guys. He said he would not be suprised if some did. But he, of course would not reccomend it. :-)
We are sure to loose, may as well make them run as quick as we can to beat us.
If they think we are doing they will have to decide a hp trigger or giving a round away to get us kicked out. Be a gamble for them, right? I can pull 80 lbs real easy, and have talked about doing it in a case like that. I also still have my old 383" bracket engine that would have no problem with a 360" DP, sure wouldn't want to get caught with that. Chuck Nelson would kill me. LOL

442OLDS 12-04-2011 06:29 PM
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If you are in a heads up race and you are the slower car by one tenth or one second,you realistically are not going to ever win if your opponent gets a .099 light or better.

You can win if your opponent breaks,crashes, or redlights.

I would much rather be at the legal weight in situations being described.

You are probably going to lose anyway,but what if you somehow win the round and get disqualified for being light on weight?

Tom Turner 12-04-2011 09:31 PM
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442 OLDS;
All great ideas have pitfalls but the odds that someone that has 3 to 5 tenths to spare is going to redlight, blow up or crash are pretty slim; probably gonna lose anyway. Why not push a little?

Ed;
I can get 100+lbs out of the 96 without a noticable thrash.....and we may have a few other tricks up our sleeve with which to "push", but if we were really smart we could figure out how to take a legal LT-1 and run circles around a guy with the same size engine that just happens to have more squeeze, more cam, real race heads and intake and a 1000 CFM throttle body...and 50 less factored HP. No problem!

7423 12-04-2011 09:47 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom Turner (Post 297007)
Ed;
It's funny, Dallas (Glenn) and I were discussing this very subject yesterday at the shop. Many things came onto the table including the weight removal but the question I have is " does being found significantly light after a heads up race grounds for and extended NHRA vacation?" I told Dallas that with all the weight out and a 100 shot we still cant run with these guys but I really like the idea of becoming a more formidable chaser and letting the system do the rest, so long as that "vacation" isn't in the mix. Not sure what Dallas thought at the end of the day. He's a traditional young guy; wants to kick everybody's katukkas, kiss the girl, grab the little gold man (and the money) and go kick back with a hot dog and a good internet connection. I think he voted for all the weight out, the 100 shot and possibly a 383.
Your are a funny guy Mr. T !! ROTFLMAO!!!!!
Happy Holidays to ya Tom..........

442OLDS 12-04-2011 09:51 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom Turner (Post 297041)
442 OLDS;
All great ideas have pitfalls but the odds that someone that has 3 to 5 tenths to spare is going to redlight, blow up or crash are pretty slim; probably gonna lose anyway. Why not push a little?
I used to think the same way,but I have some seen some pretty bizarre things happen lately.Just this year in Bowling Green at the points race,my mom was down over 3 tenths and the faster car rolled the beams.

So many things can happen.Redlight,spin,crash,cross centerline,break,oil leak,fail fuel check,weigh TOO much or too little.

I used to not even bother showing up in these types of races.

I think it would be quite foolish to win the round and then get disqualified for weight.

Ed Wright 12-04-2011 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by A56 (Post 297045)
Is a Vacation from NHRA actually a Blessing or a Threat?


Mark Lelchook
E/SA #704
Could be money in the bank.

Tom Turner 12-04-2011 11:20 PM
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Happy holidays to you Charlie! You may be the only person on CR that appreciates my brand of humor. Thank You.

Mark;
Not to tough to answer your question these days but I would prefer to take the vacation on my own terms or at least without an NHRA mandate.

ED;
Brilliant as usual. Many fun cupons would never leave the bank during such a vacation. This idea sounds better and better as I type. (slow typist)

Pedigo Perf 12-06-2011 11:10 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ed Wright (Post 296997)
Those specs aren't much more bogus in relation to the initial hp rating than the DPs.
In my business I never screwed my regular customers over to attract new ones.
In two or three years they may be within a couple of classes where they belong. Like many, but not all DPs. Best we can do is in a heads up is try to push them 1+ under. Even if it means pulling 100 lbs out to do it. Don't weigh round losers, do they? Other than 1st round of class. LOL
Ed, a few years back I ran a coupon that gave a "special discount" for new customers only. I found out that didn't go over well with people that were already loyal to my business, so in an effort to keep everyone happy we applied the special discount to everyone that came in the door until it finally expired.

Kind of like letting them have roller rockers I guess.

Chuck Norton 12-06-2011 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Tom Turner (Post 297063)
Happy holidays to you Charlie! You may be the only person on CR that appreciates my brand of humor.

Nope, not the only one...

c

Ed Wright 12-06-2011 12:12 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pedigo Perf (Post 297296)
Ed, a few years back I ran a coupon that gave a "special discount" for new customers only. I found out that didn't go over well with people that were already loyal to my business, so in an effort to keep everyone happy we applied the special discount to everyone that came in the door until it finally expired.

Kind of like letting them have roller rockers I guess.
Kinda Business 101 from the school of hard knocks, right? :-)


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