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Chad Rhodes 12-24-2011 12:08 AM

Re: spring pressure
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Lee (Post 300614)
So what does coil bind SOUND like? :D

it sounds a lot like the head of a valve coming out the header collector.

Ian Hill 12-24-2011 12:41 AM

Re: spring pressure
 
Ahh, you have gone too far too! My "valve through the exhaust" sounded like a death rattle at 1100 feet. Ended by splitting the piston in two, one half embedded in the block, half way up the bore, the other half scattered throughout the other 7 holes!

It was actually caused by coil bind, but I'd imagine similar results if it did happen.

I have been increasing valve pressure buy .01" shims and am up to .06" intake and .03" exhaust over recommended and each time I add shims the car picks up. The next race I go to I will be matching the ex with the intake. It is a largerjump than I've done so far, but I am guessing it will be good as I did the intake first and have been catching up with exhaust with good results. I've discussed this lots with my engine builder and we decided to go with the idea that more is better, to the point we wipe the cam shaft out. This will be season two coming up, the last cam had three seasons without fail. As far as telling you what my spring pressure is, I don't think it matters. My combo likes the springs stiff. Just like valve lash, my combo runs near to zero as I dare go... I set them cold and I set them tight. But that's for another thread I am sure.

What I will tell you is at what spring pressure I wipe the cam out...if it happens. I switched Joe Gibbs oil this past seaon, this is the first time I am not freshening my engine, everything, including the cam looks good. I figure I'll get to coil bind before hurting the cam.
Ian

Ed Wright 12-24-2011 02:22 PM

Re: spring pressure
 
Your kidding about "getting to coil bind", right? .050" from coil bind should be close enough.

Adger Smith 12-24-2011 02:28 PM

Re: spring pressure
 
Ed,
Don't you remember...?? You want it to coil bind just as it reaches the peak of the "Loft" or "Toss" off the cam profile?

Ed Wright 12-24-2011 02:53 PM

Re: spring pressure
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Adger Smith (Post 300684)
Ed,
Don't you remember...?? You want it to coil bind just as it reaches the peak of the "Loft" or "Toss" off the cam profile?

Guess I've been doing it wrong

Reed Granrt 12-24-2011 03:11 PM

Re: spring pressure
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Wright (Post 300682)
Your kidding about "getting to coil bind", right? .050" from coil bind should be close enough.


Ed
Here you go again. You missed it. You put in a safety factor of setting it up to get .05 before you get max lift. That way you cant ever float the valves. Ive been doing this for years and I aint never floated a valve. Well wait a minute I think I floated a couple out the headers. HeHeHe
reed

Rick Leininger Jr. 12-24-2011 05:19 PM

Re: spring pressure
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Wright (Post 300688)
Guess I've been doing it wrong

Yeah, no one does that anymore, it's so "2010".

Ed Wright 12-24-2011 07:00 PM

Re: spring pressure
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick Leininger Jr. (Post 300715)
Yeah, no one does that anymore, it's so "2010".

Us old guys have a tough time keeping up. :-(


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