Re: Is the Hybrid really the solution?
 

The last underpowered car I bought was a 1968 Dodge Monaco with a 318. I hated that particular car before it was stolen. But then it got returned all beat to crap, and I liked it even less. I had traded a 1963 390 Merc convertible on it. That merc was big and heavy, but still ran like a bear... The Dodge with a 318 ran more like a mouse..

Next to my current driver a 2008 Dodge SRT8, my favorite car was my 1976 Pontiac Grand Prix with a 455 and posi. It even had an electric sun roof and an 8 track in it...

No more underpowered cars for this dude..

If gas gets too expensive to drive my fun cars, I will move to a house on a big hill, and just coast them down ocassionaly for the "thrill".

By then it will be OK. I probably won't remember that I live at the top of the hill. So I dont need to worry about how to tget the cars back to the top. .

David
The New Hemi Guy

Re: Is the Hybrid really the solution?
 

I guess we are breaking new ground here. 2 out of 3 people don't buy the exact car they just got rid of. I drive a new prius and Love it. Compared to a 30 mpg car at 1000 miles a month, I save $58/month at current gas prices. Over 100,000 miles, thats $5,800. Can you find a $18,000 car that can compete with the prius in room, saftey features and basic options? thats what you would need to break even, I'm pretty sure gas prices aint going down either.

Re: Is the Hybrid really the solution?
 

Scuderi Split Fire Engine......65 MPG then couple to a hybrid it will be higher.

http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2012/...ntcmp=features

Re: Is the Hybrid really the solution?
 

where did you find a prius for 18K?
not new....
and when the battery craps out?

Re: Is the Hybrid really the solution?
 

I didn't find a new prius for $18,000. I found a new one for $23,700. Hence, the breaking even part.

Re: Is the Hybrid really the solution?
 

when that 7-10K battery takes a hike, you may want to scrap it;)

although of the hybrids, the toyota is the best (for what THATS worth)...

to me, it would make more sense to have a diesel/hybrid...

my wife has a scion xa that'll get 35 mpg without trying and i have got as high as 49 running in the hills

Re: Is the Hybrid really the solution?
 

Do you just pull numbers out of your butt to make your point of view? The whole drivetrain including the battery is warrantied for 100,000 miles or 8 years. The cost of a Brand New Battery is less than $3000 installed. The XA is not near the car a prius is. I should know, I had a XB. A 100,000 mile prius, with our without a new battery, holds its value considerably better than a 100,000 mile XA. Less that 1% of Prius batteries have failed before 180,000 miles. All facts

Re: Is the Hybrid really the solution?
 

wasn't supposed to be a pissing match but seeing how i work on that stuff, i guess i don't know anything...evidently the price of the battery has came down (must be made in china now;) )
great, you're stuck with a prius for 8 years, they are (this includes just about everything new) for all intents and purposes, a toaster.
and as far as a prius being a better car....uh, no.
both about the same as far as quality and BOTH need more power..


but the question originally was , are hybrids the solution?
i say no.

Re: Is the Hybrid really the solution?
 

Clearly you made your mind up before you even did one shred of research. Please explain to me how I'm "stuck" with it for 8 years? Please tell me you don't think you would get a better rate of return on selling an XA after 3 years vs a Prius. I don't have to go 100,000 miles to make my money back.
BTW, Scion is a very good choice and is the closest thing to a prius in overall value.

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can you read!?!?
i don't NEED to do any more "research", i actually work on them.

don't care for the way they drive,or for some of the B.S. issues they have, or the fact that they have all the styling of a bar of soap.

you like the car?
fine.
i don't have to.