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Re: Ford First "Stocker" Into The Eights

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Originally Posted by Jack Matyas (Post 321506)

Bruce - OK , since you want to stir the pot some I'll jump in with my own spoon .In the history of Stock / Superstock racing never has there been so much "buzz" going on than now - everyone has noticed and is talking about whats going on - these cars have put new life back into our sport which had become very stale .Having the " Big Three " involved and building cars has been nothing but positive from all sides ......well , maybe all but yours .On the negitive side is the horsepower factors which have taken too long to stablize but the other cars are catching back up - did you notice the three LS1 cars in the top ten this weekend in Charlotte ? Were the " new " cars laying down - I don't think so .And then there's Steve Szupkas' little giant killer I/SA 305 car going 11.25 in the # 5 spot - certainly not a million dollar car - they just work hard and keep trying .My point is that the AHFS is working .

As for Don Fizells' historic 8 second run - kudos to Don and his team - much as people think so these cars are not " plug and play " as I'm sure it took plenty of hard work ( and probably a wheelbarrow of cash ) .

And finally about Bobby DeArmonds 9 second pass - no one can take a moment away from him - its his forever .The first ten second , 9 second and now 8 second run came to pass for only one reason and its time everyone got used to it ---- Rule Changes .

Let the hate mail begin but please no Kryptonite ....................

Nicely said Jack. Many people wildly underestimate the amount of work and effort that it takes to make these cars run. There's nothing "out of the box" about making them run at the top of their class. I love the old stuff but I wanted the challenge of making a new car with new technology that hadn't been all scienced out go fast. And it was a lot more effort than I ever dreamed.

CONGRATS to Don. Don and his team worked hard to get there and they deserve the accolades, not the criticisms.

Re: Ford First "Stocker" Into The Eights

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Originally Posted by BlueOval Ralph (Post 321509)

Bruce is correct on this and as far as Jack he's just wearing his NHRA cheer leader outfit! A lot of fan love the old cars as the can relate to them.
Ralph

Ralph - Thats the beauty of the whole thing - many fans ( and racers ) love the old school cars and many can't wait to see the new ones ........having them face of against each other is the best thing I know of to get people to watch and take notice .

And don't be jealous of my cheer leader outfit .....I'll never be able to thank Toby enough ! ! !

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So when a 1500hp, 3.0L twin turbo/supercharged/4 valve per cyl/ etc/ etc 2020 Ford outruns a 1968 hemi...your going to bitch again?

Perhaps we should outlaw everything but hemi's and 69 camaro's?

If the new camaro ever gets here I wonder how much bitching and whining there will be then?

Why in hell do you think the camaro is even being built???? It's not because of obama's love for cars!!!

No I'm not a nhra fanboy, but c'mon guys, this ain't 1970 anymore. Everyone thought the world was coming to an end with fuel inj, and then the ls or lt or whatever camaro's...but technology moved on.

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All the "firsts" are great.All the new cars are great except the resorting to power adders. Had they all been just injected or carbs it might not have been so lobsided. NHRA as done nothing new or different. They have always tended to turn a blind eye to anything new and hope the new cars replace the Nostalgia Stockers and Super Stockers. The problem is the racers with the cars are the victims only when the resist the trend. Sad but many have thought their time and money invested in the older cars would last forever. Times change and NHRA doesnt. Life after class racing is fine.

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And don't be jealous of my cheer leader outfit .....I'll never be able to thank Toby enough ! ! ![/QUOTE]

Jack the next time you wear it please shave your legs it would look better. :p

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I sometimes wonder what the Flathead guys said when the Smallblock Chevy was introduced !

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The sport is changing as is a lot of things in this world.
I like both types of cars and enjoy watching all.
This is not going to change back to "old school" as a lot of us growed up in.

The new cars are running as fast as the "old school " pro stocks were running back in the day.

This is the new face of drag racing and is still going to continue to change like it or not.

At least we still have drag racing and we can still run the old iron for now.
If i had the funds , i would have a new car myself and would also have an old one too....
I have respect for all class racers that work hard (and or both) spend $$$ to make their combo go as fast as they can. Now let's just see how fast they really can go.

CONGRATS on the 8 second run for the history books......

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I like the new cars. If I were going to buy one to drive on the street it would be a new Boss 302 Mustang. The problem with these new cars is the hp factor. They should have been put in their own classes ( fx) and run either in stock or super stock or both during eliminations. No one has a problem with them running in the eliminator, people just don't want to have to run them heads up or in class with these bogus factors. Ahfs will never fix the problem as long as new combinations with soft factors are introduced on a yearly basis.

Re: Ford First "Stocker" Into The Eights

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Originally Posted by Greg Hill (Post 321535)

I agree (except for the Boss 302 Mustang part):rolleyes::rolleyes:. Jim

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Anthony,

I applaud your success in life. We fully understand the amount of work it takes to make a car fast and enjoyable.

Let's take a quick look at one of your team cars that you shipped south this winter. It picked up 22 horsepower in just two races and it still has a ton left. I am pleased to see that you allow your drivers to run these cars as they please. But you can plug in a new engine combination at any time and continue to run over top of the traditional Stockers for years to come. Yes, we know and enjoy hard work, however, these new cars are not breaking anybody's back to go fast.

Dave,
Citing prior transgressions by nhra does not make this one right.

Jack,
What did you say? Smoke and ah shucks is not going to make this problem go away.

Finally, the ahfs is a joke and all the nhra types hide behind it to say "hey look these cars are picking up Horsepower." But like the car I noted above, the ahfs is a bandaid over a gapping performance wound. This car is making twice the amount of it's nhra rated Horsepower. Anthony can confirm the real horsepower number for this car if he wishes to be honest with the racers.