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Dave Turner 08-15-2012 01:42 PM
Re: Pro stock NHRA unwanted child at the U.S Nationals
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ken Miele (Post 340884)
Guys,

There is a reason why Dan has no interest in Pro Stock, and he is not alone. The class is antiquated and needs to reflect current production cars. The Pro Stocks are not even close to what a production car looks like. Do you guys realize that the rules for the engine have not changed since 1982.

The reason that the Nitro cars have most of the TV time is because when Pro Stock comes on the ratings drop significantly.

Don't get me wrong, for what these guys have to work with they do an amazing job, along with being very competitive. There are really only 2 engines that compete with each other, The Ford is just a Chrysler clone. I would love to see unaltered factory bodies with today's factory engines. I think the fan appeal would go way up if they were using the Camaro, Mustang and Challenger with the engines they come with. If us s/ss guys can get these cars running as fast as we do, can you imagine how fast they would go with the kind of r&d and money that they spend now. I would also bet that the factories would get heavily involved also.

I'm with Dan, I have lost interest.
X's 3....a LONG time ago. :(

D.Johns 08-15-2012 02:22 PM
Re: Pro stock NHRA unwanted child at the U.S Nationals
 
Boy drag racers are a fickle group lol.

One group wants change and another hates it. It's just a personality thing.

cutta 08-15-2012 02:46 PM
Re: Pro stock NHRA unwanted child at the U.S Nationals
 
Although many want to see Pro Stock take a step back to get closer to OEM, it would be a costly transition. All of the current development would have to be shelved and parity would take a back seat for a year or so. All of the bodies are different, new chassis would have to be developed, and more money would have to be poured into engine development, not to mention the headache of creating fair engine rules for all of the current engine formats. With the parity that has been achieved today, how could you sell the current teams on making this costly transition? Also, would it be worth the change and would it bring enough new fans to the sport to validate the change? I for one do not know if it would be worth it or if this risk would pay off. We have the OEM Copos, DragPaks, and CJ's out now and I don't know if that even that has helped increase the fan base.

In all honesty, it would be better just to create another class and call it OEM Pro Stock and go from there.

jmcarter 08-15-2012 03:16 PM
Re: Pro stock NHRA unwanted child at the U.S Nationals
 
I'm with Ken and Dave (and others of similar mind). Main reason I watch PS is because their collective work ethic and what they can run given their restrictions...same reason I love Comp. For that matter watch the Hemi Shootout cars sometimes, the top runners thrash like crazy for every hundredth of a second.

I'm so over the Force/Shumacher nitro show...

Ken Miele 08-15-2012 03:22 PM
Re: Pro stock NHRA unwanted child at the U.S Nationals
 
Adriel,

Excellent points, but if things stay the same there may not be a Pro Stock, what will all of their investment and r&d be worth then. Why do you think there is no factory backing of the so call factory hot rods. Why did Ford insist on running a car in NASCAR that resembled there factory cars for 2013.

If people like the way Pro Stocks are now that's fine with me, its just my opinion its not as popular as it could be.

As far as the new cars in stock bringing more fans in. I would think that the big three would not invest in programs they feel are not worth the investment. Although some may not like the new stockers, there has been more talk about stock in the last few years in many forms of media than in any years past. There are more competition numbers in Stock than there have ever been. I'm not saying its perfect, but it is something to build on for survival.

MikeFicacci 08-15-2012 04:29 PM
Re: Pro stock NHRA unwanted child at the U.S Nationals
 
I hate to say it but there is little excitement for the average fan in Pro-Stock. 99% of the time the cars go straight down the track. Pro-mod is growing every year in popularity. Turbos, superchargers, nitrous, nitromethane. A nice mix of old and new bodies. It's fun to watch.

Jim Kaekel 08-15-2012 04:33 PM
Re: Pro stock NHRA unwanted child at the U.S Nationals
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ken Miele (Post 340884)
Guys,

I think the fan appeal would go way up if they were using the Camaro, Mustang and Challenger with the engines they come with. If us s/ss guys can get these cars running as fast as we do, can you imagine how fast they would go with the kind of r&d and money that they spend now. I would also bet that the factories would get heavily involved also.
Ken, you make very good points and I agree 100%. I think fan interest would go way up.

Dan Fahey 08-15-2012 05:49 PM
Re: Pro stock NHRA unwanted child at the U.S Nationals
 
Pro Stock may need a marketing change.

Think it would help bring more in Fans to a ProAm or Sportsnam Level Race.

My frustration with the Bodies is that they went NASCAR.

Despite that I think a bigger draw would be Seperating Professional and Sportsman.
Moving Pro Stock to Sportsman.

Get back to advertising PRO STOCK has the Headliner !!

my 2cents
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Frank Castros 08-15-2012 06:36 PM
Re: Pro stock NHRA unwanted child at the U.S Nationals
 
Pro Stock is a bore and I completely agree with Ken. Rekindle the original spirit of the class, as it was in the 1970s, a true competition of Detroit muscle.

ALMACK 08-15-2012 06:50 PM
Re: Pro stock NHRA unwanted child at the U.S Nationals
 
It seems that PS is stuck in time.
The car makers have not made a carbureted car in 27 years yet EFI is not allowed in PS. (yet) At least NASCAR FINIALLY allowed efi this year.

Those PS bodies are ridiculous looking...IMO


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