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Evan Smith 01-02-2013 01:10 PM

Re: Merry Xmas! National Event Entry now $310
 
Why would they announce an increase to the customer? You don't see the food store announcing it when milk or bread or eggs or chicken or other products go up in price, nor do you see the airlines making an announcement when tickets cost more.

Jack Matyas 01-02-2013 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Evan Smith (Post 363628)
Why would they announce an increase to the customer? You don't see the food store announcing it when milk or bread or eggs or chicken or other products go up in price, nor do you see the airlines making an announcement when tickets cost more.

Good point Evan .........Plus they 'only' raised it 1.6% - $ 5 bucks - I'd worry more about how much diesel is going to cost us this year .

Dan Fletcher 01-02-2013 01:48 PM

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I don't think thats a relevent comparison, but you're welcome to your opinion, as am I...

C and W Racing 01-02-2013 02:54 PM

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I think it's more about the principle of it. Wasn't too many years ago it was 250.00. Every time they increase the price, they always say it's for the insurance so no one will have an argument about the entry fee's going up and how come the purse isn't. Never ending enhancements that we all get.
Chuck

Mark Yacavone 01-02-2013 03:12 PM

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I haven't entered these things in a few years, so correct me if I'm wrong.
So, the events that have the fuel queers there, if a TF wheel and tire comes off and hits you in the head and kills you, you've already paid an extra $100 bucks for the pleasure?
This sounds like a better protection racket than The Mob could come up with.
This looks like a Jesse Jackson caliber shakedown...

600ci 01-02-2013 03:36 PM

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so insurance companys have the tallest building in the city . nhra mite be trying to match that concept with there fee's the only diffrence is one is out and out greedy and the other is a non-proffit greedy orginization

Dave Ribeiro 01-02-2013 05:11 PM

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Dan & Chuck ,



You missed the BIGGGGG Payout increase that's coming in 2015 !!!!

novassdude 01-02-2013 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Andys dad (Post 363611)
We will see how many So Cal guys are fed up enough to support this -

http://www.famosoraceway.com/images/...-bash-2013.jpg

It is not a beloved NHRA race - it is one of those awful bracket races
No heads up - OMG
No class racing - OMG
Just what we normally do without the dreaded AHFS, fuel check, weighing and NHRA with a hand out

I am sure there are plenty of well and good reasons not to go but not for us

We will be there (Bakersfield)

Two races $2500 to win (E and no E brackets both days)
$225 For Car/Driver and 10 Crew/Spectator
Pre-Entries Get A Free T-Shirt


Ron

From looking at other big dollor bracket races I don't think the gates will be flooded. Most races I have seen with a 2500 dollar payout have a much lower entry fee.

Good luck at the race.

Andys dad 01-02-2013 07:33 PM

Re: Merry Xmas! National Event Entry now $310
 
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Originally Posted by novassdude (Post 363683)
From looking at other big dollor bracket races I don't think the gates will be flooded. Most races I have seen with a 2500 dollar payout have a much lower entry fee.

Good luck at the race.

....

Mike Carr 01-02-2013 08:23 PM

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I've seen a better payout to entry ratio races than that, too. But still, not a bad deal. $225 for TWO races, each paying $2,500 to win ($5,000 total). Plus free crew tickets, up to ten people. For comparison, Indy is $355 entry, plus $105 per crew member, and pays $1,800 to win. Granted you have contingency at NHRA/IHRA races, IF (and that's a big if, lately) you can collect your due money. If you get the money you have coming to you, from ten companies @ 300 each, that is an extra $3,000. So, a total of $4,800. One would think that Indy, being the biggest, best race of the year, would pay much better than that. Or any National Event, for that matter ($300 to enter vs $1,500-$1,800 to win).

Here is a comparison, from just ten years ago:

June 2002, Atco LODRS race. Entry: $125. Fourth round loss paid me $175
2012 Atco LODRS race. Entry: $170. Fourth round loss: $150.

A net 70 (seventy) dollar loss from just a decade ago (IHRA is a net seventy-five dollar loss, entry vs fourth round from ten years ago). Motels have gone up quite a bit, gas has more than doubled (cleaning some drawers the other day and found some old receipts, I paid $1.46 for gs on the PA Turnpike on the way to Atco June '02; compared to $3.50 or so now). Toll bill to the NJ state line has doubled, up to forty-five dollars one way. Add up all the other associated costs and fees for pit bikes, golf carts and the like. Doing some quick math, it would take me about 900 or 1000 dollars to do a LODRS at E-town, Cecil, Maple Grove, Chicago, STanton, etc. A racer told me he was runner-up at the 2010 Maple Grove LODRS race. He won $400 (four hundred) plus some sticker money. Not being able to collect on much anyways, if I personally were to get a R/U at a LODRS race next year, I *MIGHT*break even for the weekend. Yes, I know we (most of us) don't do this for the money; at the same time, it would be nice to actually make a dollar or two getting to the final, don't you think? We (not me, I quit because of this type of stuff six years ago) truly must do this for the love of racing and friends--because to an outsider, it must seem ludacrous to pay what we do, to race for what we do.


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