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FSA1673 01-29-2013 12:33 PM

Re: exhaust cross over (heat riser) fill
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dartman (Post 367034)
Heat riser passage may be
blocked from intake manifold side of cylinder head. Blocking
passage down in valve pocket prohibited.

I use thick tin between my intake gasket and head as i was told by the tech guy that pouring in is prohibited

Correct, I was under the impression as long as it does not protrude into the valve pocket you are OK. Exhaust runner volume still needs to meet minimum spec. Not sure how you would measure it it if was not filled.

Adam good to hear it is worth power.

Scott

kansas stocker 01-29-2013 12:40 PM

Re: exhaust cross over (heat riser) fill
 
If this is all legal I've learned something new.

Adam Strang 01-29-2013 12:42 PM

Re: exhaust cross over (heat riser) fill
 
NHRA pours an outer runner to check cc`s on a Pontiac head.

It`s okay to fill the heat crossover but you can`t do any blending in the exhaust bowl on a Stocker head.

On a bracket head my buddy who does heads for a living will over fill the heat crossover in the exhaust bowl so he can blend all that in when he ports the head. Not legal in Stock.

dartman 01-29-2013 01:10 PM

Re: exhaust cross over (heat riser) fill
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FSA1673 (Post 367041)
Correct, I was under the impression as long as it does not protrude into the valve pocket you are OK. Exhaust runner volume still needs to meet minimum spec. Not sure how you would measure it it if was not filled.

Adam good to hear it is worth power.

Scott


page xv under "HOW TO USE THIS RULEBOOK" in the rule book


On the other hand, as to performance equipment, it is the
general rule that unless optional performance equipment or
performance-related modification is specifically permitted by
this Rulebook, it is prohibited. All model, engine, or equipment
changes or modifications not specifically addressed in this
Rulebook must be submitted in writing to NHRA for
consideration prior to competition. Approval will be granted or
denied in NHRA’s sole and absolute discretion. The applicant
will be notified of approval or rejection in writing from NHRA
headquarters in Glendora, Calif.


as I read it "Blocking passage down in valve pocket prohibited."I have not seen any where in the book that says "I was under the impression" lol

Paul Precht 01-29-2013 01:30 PM

Re: exhaust cross over (heat riser) fill
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Taylor 3601 (Post 367018)
Ron,
I use zinc alloy get from Mc Master Carr supply ,it's the same thing Mondello use to sell.
I melt enough into a steel cup I made from tubing and flat bar w/flat bar long enough to also be handle to pick up and pour with,I usaully block @ intake side and pour from bowl side have to use some sort of funnel some times.
The zinc will probaly out last the heads.
Mike Taylor 3601

The bar of zinc alloy is the only way to go. I cut a piece off and heat it in an iron skillet like this http://img2.etsystatic.com/008/0/589...29082_6cdm.jpg with a cutting torch and pour it in, block the intake side and then blend into the bowl if it's not a stocker head.

Rory McNeil 01-29-2013 01:43 PM

Re: exhaust cross over (heat riser) fill
 
Considering that all the accepted Edelbrock aluminum heads that I`ve seen have no crossover provision at all, thus no "cave" in the port, wouldn`t it be nice if NHRA allowed factory heads be completely filled too?

Mark Yacavone 01-29-2013 01:50 PM

Re: exhaust cross over (heat riser) fill
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dartman (Post 367034)
Heat riser passage may be
blocked from intake manifold side of cylinder head. Blocking
passage down in valve pocket prohibited.

I use thick tin between my intake gasket and head as i was told by the tech guy that pouring in is prohibited

Kelly, I do this process for one of the premier shops in the country. You CAN fill and separate the exhaust crossover in the head.In fact, the newer LT1 style head has this feature, unlike earlier SBC heads.
On Stockers, I place a cotton ball, saturated with plaster of paris into the exh. hole from the port side. I push it in about 3/16ths so there is no question about it being in the port.
This does not hurt the flow ,I have been told .I then fill it right up from the intake side, and then grind off excess.
On bracket engines , I fill from the port side ..in one side ,until it comes out the other port, then grind and smooth, as others have stated. It really helps to put about a 1/16 th air bleed hole in your block off plate.
I have been using aluminum and a home made ladle ,and a cutting torch.
I will look into the zinc deal. Thanks

R. Thorne 01-31-2013 10:13 AM

Re: exhaust cross over (heat riser) fill
 
Thanks to all that replied, Ron.

Dave Ribeiro 01-31-2013 08:55 PM

Re: exhaust cross over (heat riser) fill
 
Ron,

You have a PM ........

R. Thorne 02-03-2013 11:37 AM

Re: exhaust cross over (heat riser) fill
 
Adam Strang, you have a pm.


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