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B Aceves 07-08-2013 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by B Aceves (Post 389820)
Hey Brent X 2 on the Shermans have well over 100 passes on mine no issues !!!

Used cam or not with a new lifter using a good BR fluid for a few passes will not hurt one bit and will make make you feel a little more at ease as well. Gibbs makes two different BR oils and works fine IMO.

Todd Hoven 07-08-2013 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by B Aceves (Post 389820)
Hey Brent X 2 on the Shermans have well over 100 passes on mine no issues !!!

Is a Sherman lifter just a limited travel stock lifter? I guess you have to cut way back on spring pressure with those?

Alan Roehrich 07-08-2013 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill Edgeworth (Post 389643)
To my knowledge Trend does not make a Pontiac lifter. Pontiac lifters are the same diameter as a Chevy but Pontiac ones are taller. Putting a Chevy lifter in a Pontiac can cause the oil gallery to become exposed at the top of the lifter when the lifter is on the base circle and or the lifter oil groove to become exposed on the bottom side. I can’t remember which it is, it’s been a few years since I decided to see if Chevy ones would fit. I would just use the Sherman lifters. If you really want to use ceramics I have a used set. I quit using ceramics years ago.


I can ask them about that. I'm sure they can move the oil band if needed. They can probably make them taller, too. The price is reasonable enough that the upcharge would probably be as affordable as most anything custom.

Adam Strang 07-08-2013 07:33 PM

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I`m pretty sure the only difference between a Pontiac lifter and a Chevy is the placement of the oil band.It`s higher on a Pontiac lifter,you can get away with using a chevy lifter as long as the cam doesn`t have a small base circle.

brent flynn 07-08-2013 09:22 PM

Re: Smith Machine Ceramic llifters...
 
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Originally Posted by B Aceves (Post 389820)
Hey Brent X 2 on the Shermans have well over 100 passes on mine no issues !!!

As Todd Hoven asked, will i need to run 130-ish on the seat? And what roughly , do these run, cost wise? They may be the way to go...do they lash, like a Schubeck? or do you preload them, a little?

jmantle 07-09-2013 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeff Lee (Post 389720)
Guys, if something is not in a catalog, pick up the phone and ask. It's not that difficult! PPP just made me a set of AMC TS lifters and there were none in the catalog. I just sent them a lifter I wanted copied and in less than 4 weeks had a set. Didn't cost extra either. Now it's available for everybody.
If I sat around looking at catalogs for availability while building an AMC, I'd never get it done.

Jeff, I understood SB Chrysler (pushrod oiling) are the same lifter. That's what I run in my 6 cylinder.
Jim Mantle

Bill Edgeworth 07-09-2013 12:25 AM

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Brent,

PM sent

Dave Ribeiro 07-09-2013 09:17 AM

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Bill ,

PM sent.........

B Aceves 07-11-2013 11:28 AM

Re: Smith Machine Ceramic llifters...
 
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Originally Posted by brent flynn (Post 389884)
As Todd Hoven asked, will i need to run 130-ish on the seat? And what roughly , do these run, cost wise? They may be the way to go...do they lash, like a Schubeck? or do you preload them, a little?

Brent, I would suggest a phone call to them and talk with them about the do and don't with their lifters he will talk with you and then you can decide what your comfort level would be with adjustment, spring psi , etc.

brent flynn 07-14-2013 02:02 PM

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Thanks Bob!


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