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Alex Denysenko 11-17-2013 03:11 PM

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Try and even find a copper-brass rad for some applications?NLA

Alan Roehrich 11-17-2013 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex Denysenko (Post 409198)
Try and even find a copper-brass rad for some applications?NLA


Alex, my point exactly. And yet, for many applications, I can get an aluminum radiator, fan, and fan shroud combo for not much more than some of the "cheap" import copper/brass radiators alone.

And in answer to another question, I was not suggesting the plastic tank and aluminum core radiators. What I suggested to NHRA a while back was a direct fit, correct dimension, all aluminum replacement radiator. There is no intent to try to stick postage stamp radiators in old muscle cars. At least not on my part.

Todd Hoven 11-17-2013 05:03 PM

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So the rule will be like the SS rule. Anything that fits, as long as it bolts in the factory location? Going to be impossible to regulate any sizes so sounds like anything goes. Another common sense rule for the good of the racers. What is the next rule to change? Aluminum intakes for all?

Alan Roehrich 11-17-2013 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Todd Hoven (Post 409216)
So the rule will be like the SS rule. Anything that fits, as long as it bolts in the factory location? Going to be impossible to regulate any sizes so sounds like anything goes. Another common sense rule for the good of the racers. What is the next rule to change? Aluminum intakes for all?

Not impossible at all. It's pretty obvious whether a radiator belongs or not.

FYI, there are big block cars with six cylinder radiators in Stock right now.

Alex Denysenko 11-17-2013 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich (Post 409219)
Not impossible at all. It's pretty obvious whether a radiator belongs or not.

FYI, there are big block cars with six cylinder radiators in Stock right now.

Yup, and I can remember whe you would get pitched for that Alan especially in division 2 or 3 Travis and Wesly territory

Alan Roehrich 11-17-2013 05:50 PM

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There are some tech guys, like Travis and Dave, who know what they're looking at, and would toss offenders if they could.

Bob Don 11-17-2013 05:58 PM

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I'm wondering when they'll give the go ahead to put the second 'S' on the class designation. The cars are pretty much de facto super stockers as it is.

Paul Precht 11-17-2013 08:45 PM

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I'll try to shorten this story. On Oct 20th I went to Numidia for T+T to make sure I was ready for the Hagerstown combo that was two weeks away. After the second pass I let the car cool for about 45 minutes while chatting with a racer. I decided to make a timing change and as I was timing it I sprung a leak in the lower part of the radiator, it was frustrating but I had no way of fixing it there. Rather than do my own repair as I have done on many street cars I brought it to the most recommended Rad repair shop in the area, while searching everywhere online and Mopar forums to see if I could find a good one, everything I found was junk. On the Wed before the Hag race, the shop told me it was in poor shape and they couldn't promise it would hold but they could recore it for 500 dollars or 150 to try my luck, I said I'll pass on both options. In my basement I had a 3 core version of the one that was in the car that appeared to be in clean shape, I installed it on Thurs eve and it had a small leak in an outer core. Friday I left work for a couple of hours to repair it myself and as I gently removed some fins to remove the bad core I could see this too was nothing but scrap,it was falling apart, I was pretty depressed at this point and knew I'd be staying home.
I was desperate to get some more runs before winter by going to Island Drag and decided to buy an aluminum replacement to use temporarily that was also a bolt in listed for my Challenger which I'm building for SS.
Here is a link to the unit I bought, it required one 1/4" hole drilled to bolt in. http://www.championradiators.com/product/EC2375
Todd, my 50 year old intake is as good as the day it was made, it's dated 5-63, not the same thing here.

Jeff Lee 11-17-2013 09:28 PM

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My understanding is that in such EPA strongholds as California, it's almost impossible to get an old brass radiator rotted out and repaired. Same reason the days of the chrome plater are pretty much numbered for all but the biggest shops.
I bought a direct replacement aluminum radiator for my AMX while in SS/H off ebay for less than $200. It fills the entire radiator support opening corner to corner, end to end. Cools down a lot faster than the OEM radiator, and is not that much lighter with water. I'm adding a heavy Volvo electric fan and shroud I scored so I'll bet in the end I save no weight at all but I will have a superior cooling system to (hopefully!), go some rounds in the hot days of Arizona.

Robert Swartz 11-17-2013 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex Denysenko (Post 409222)
Yup, and I can remember whe you would get pitched for that Alan especially in division 2 or 3 Travis and Wesly territory

Shoot Alex, I remember when they argued with you over trim pieces and radio knobs here in Division 3.


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