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slingshot 06-21-2014 04:09 PM

Re: Video of Biondo's win over Fletcher's close call
 
better check his diaper.... and not for oil...the one in his pants..nice save

John Scott 06-21-2014 04:13 PM

Re: Video of Biondo's win over Fletcher's close call
 
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Originally Posted by slingshot (Post 435551)
better check his diaper.... and not for oil...the one in his pants..nice save

Sounds like they already checked...

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Originally Posted by Dan Fletcher (Post 435540)
no **** genius...


Brett C 06-21-2014 04:26 PM

Re: Video of Biondo's win over Fletcher's close call
 
First let me say that I am super happy no one was injured or no cars were destroyed.
The aggressive breaking is one thing that I am 100% vocally against!!!
I have been right behind too many of these including watching someone getting air flight ride out of the track. I do realize that there are hazards that come with racing, however if the sanctioning bodies came down hard on these things they would happen far less and our sport would be safer because of it.

Byron Worner 06-21-2014 05:25 PM

Re: Video of Biondo's win over Fletcher's close call
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by John Leichtamer Jr (Post 435549)
Will somebody have to be killed before nhra dose something about this ??


Hammer

What should they do? Remove the brake pedal???

Greg Gay 06-21-2014 06:09 PM

Re: Video of Biondo's win over Fletcher's close call
 
Respectfully, I need to take the other side of this argument. You are in a racecar, and you know the inherent dangers when you enter this race. Many will hold their nose when I say this, but when you put the shoe polish on the window, the same things that work in a bracket race work for us. Your job is to beat your opponent to the finish line while not beating your time, or to force your opponent to. If there is one thing that has always bothered me, it is the people standing at the finish line at New England Dragway, deciding if there was excessive braking. Maybe it goes back to the '70's when my father was disqualified for hitting the brakes before the finish line (a NED rule back then), but I have always thought that you should be able to do whatever it takes to win the race, and if that means locking up the front tires, then so be it. I remember seeing pictures of Lee Shepard in the RMS Corvette with the front tires just a smoking, and he was just trying to protect his index.

Two weeks ago at Lebanon Valley, Gene Monahan and I both dumped at the first speed line. We hit the finish line with both cars standing on their noses, and that was fine. In fact, it was fun. Gene won, and I wouldn't want to have someone say, "No, Gene's braking was excessive, Greg's was not. Greg's the winner." It doesn't work that way. We have rules for crossing the center line or hitting the wall, and they apply to all classes in drag racing. If John Force can cross the centerline after the finish line, then Thomas Fletcher can too.

Don't like the rule? Then change it, but change it for all of drag racing. Maybe you can't cross the centerline for 300 feet past the finish line. Fine with me. Thomas screwed up, or he had a mechanical failure (the left front tire was turning until the car was mostly sideways), but he didn't break the rules.

Billy Nees 06-21-2014 06:24 PM

Re: Video of Biondo's win over Fletcher's close call
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Greg Gay (Post 435564)
(the left front tire was turning until the car was mostly sideways), but he didn't break the rules.

I've watched the video at least a dozen times and I don't see any "excessive braking". Both cars had the noses dropped but I'm not seeing any tire smoke anywhere.
I think that Dad should be looking for something mechanical, swat the kid on the a**, give him a hug and call it a day.

Todd Hoven 06-21-2014 07:33 PM

Re: Video of Biondo's win over Fletcher's close call
 
Is it possible there was something down on the track that caused the car to move like that on the top?

Dan Fletcher 06-21-2014 07:45 PM

Re: Video of Biondo's win over Fletcher's close call
 
Guys, obviously he hit the brakes too hard, too long, or whatever, that goes without saying. He has driven that car on and off for 8 years, and he's dropped hard a million times. We had weight out of the trunk to run E, I recently removed the 2nd rear caliper deal, and the fronts locked up on him, plain and simple. Apparently a proportioning valve adjustment is in order, lol.

I'm sure he learned a valuable lesson. I'm equally as sure it won't happen again. I'm just glad he's ok, and I'm very thankful he didn't hit Pete.

Andrew Hill 06-21-2014 07:47 PM

Re: Video of Biondo's win over Fletcher's close call
 
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Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 435566)
I've watched the video at least a dozen times and I don't see any "excessive braking". Both cars had the noses dropped but I'm not seeing any tire smoke anywhere.
I think that Dad should be looking for something mechanical, swat the kid on the a**, give him a hug and call it a day.

The left front was 100% locked up every time I looked at the video (first part in real-time speed). It looked like he let off the brakes somewhat once it started to turn sideways and it unlocked.

Mistakes happen, I'm just glad both drivers ended up unhurt and everyone's cars are fine. Scary stuff.

Mark Yacavone 06-21-2014 07:52 PM

Re: Video of Biondo's win over Fletcher's close call
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by John Leichtamer Jr (Post 435549)
Will somebody have to be killed before nhra dose something about this ??


Hammer

Change the format, maybe?
If they do ,they'll lose two thirds of the 60% they have now.


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