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fordteacherguy 05-04-2016 12:37 AM

Re: NHRA and the Master Plan
 
Just moving the chairs around on the Titanic.......

FireSale 05-04-2016 12:59 AM

Re: NHRA and the Master Plan
 
But the Titanic had a good bar and an orchestra. NHRA is like my Dad, couldn't carry a tune in a bucket but still wanted to play guitar. Painful.

Dale

Bobby DiDomenico 05-04-2016 07:51 AM

Re: NHRA and the Master Plan
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FireSale (Post 502531)
But the Titanic had a good bar and an orchestra. NHRA is like my Dad, couldn't carry a tune in a bucket but still wanted to play guitar. Painful.

Dale

Dale,
That's darn right cruel with Fathers Day in a few weeks!

Michael Beard 05-04-2016 09:10 AM

Re: NHRA and the Master Plan
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 600ci (Post 502522)
mountain motors
dump top fuel
pro mod
fuel altereds (wild wille)
dump top fuel
3 exhibition rounds between the pros of late model S/SS
funny car take it or leave it
pro mod
etc
etc
Trump can make drag racing great again


That's what IHRA did...

Mike Taylor 3601 05-04-2016 09:29 AM

Re: NHRA and the Master Plan
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael Beard (Post 502537)
That's what IHRA did...

I was going to say same thing.

To have new pro teams you have to sportsman racers,used to the way it worked was had sportsman racer that dominated a class AND WAS ABLE TO WIN ENOUGH MONEY between purse and contingency and seemed like they would move up to pro class or would keep moving up through sportsman classes.

Drag Racing has competition from many things now,one thing is kids sports they don't have a normal season anymore they play practically year round,so the family is tied up with that, younger racers most don't want any rules or restrictions,some don't even want to race just make passes to see how fast they can go,don't have a clue about RT judging by their 1.600-1.900 reaction times,in ways it is almost like some parts of drag racing have went backwards,like before or when was first organized.

Mike Taylor 3601

MadMax404 05-04-2016 11:02 AM

Re: NHRA and the Master Plan
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Taylor 3601 (Post 502541)
I was going to say same thing.

younger
racers most don't want any rules or restrictions,some don't even want to race just make passes to see how fast they can go,don't have a clue about RT judging by their 1.600-1.900 reaction times,in ways it is almost like some parts of drag racing have went backwards,like before or when was first organized.

Mike Taylor 3601


I don't get how that statement is accurate? I would replace "younger" racer with "stock eliminator" racer. Considering none go to any "money" event all they ever want to do is make passes and run heads-up like it was in the 50s-70s. There is a potential $100,000 to win race for Junior racers in Kentucky in October. I bet the packages per round is going to rival if not surpass that of what you see at any points/national event this season.

bnsfmachinist 05-04-2016 12:23 PM

Re: NHRA and the Master Plan
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Taylor 3601 (Post 502541)
I was going to say same thing.

younger racers most don't want any rules or restrictions,some don't even want to race just make passes to see how fast they can go,don't have a clue about RT judging by their 1.600-1.900 reaction times,in ways it is almost like some parts of drag racing have went backwards,like before or when was first organized.

Mike Taylor 3601

I have seen exactly what you're talking about among younger racers. I'm a young racer myself at age 29.

I came to this forum probably through Google just looking for tech answers and questions. But now I've got my mind on ultimately building a stock or super stock(or GT) car out of my bracket car. I have a huge respect for class racing especially S/SS BECAUSE of the rules. I was raised by an engine builder, drag racer and machinist and I myself love engineering and I love a challenge! So I've set myself on the challenge to build a car that can at least run the index for whatever combo I finally decide to go with and do better over time. Rules and restrictions come with a higher cost to be competitive as I've already begun to realize in my build. Fortunately I'm doing well enough financially to get my foot in the door, but the same is not true for a lot of other potential class racers in my age group or younger. Much cheaper to run quicker ET's with basically no rules in super pro or pro bracket than it is in stock/super stock.

Yes there's slower classes that are a bit cheaper to build, but I wouldn't say those classes are too appealing to most younger folks.


But on another positive side of it, went to the 2 day bracket opener up here at pacific raceways and there was certainly a decent amount of younger competitors that I've seen at the track many times before and are there to compete. Hell, there was a young man driving a S/G car in S/Pro and by the look of him he may not have been a day over 16 years old. Awesome! Another cool thing (in my opinion) was how few foreign cars were present, maybe a couple in sportsman.

So there's at least a little hope for the next generation right?

I could say so much more but this has been a big enough wall of text as it is!

Can't comment on NHRA administration however, just don't know enough about the situation!

Jesse Kauk

Mike Taylor 3601 05-04-2016 01:39 PM

Re: NHRA and the Master Plan
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MadMax404 (Post 502553)
I don't get how that statement is accurate? I would replace "younger" racer with "stock eliminator" racer. Considering none go to any "money" event all they ever want to do is make passes and run heads-up like it was in the 50s-70s. There is a potential $100,000 to win race for Junior racers in Kentucky in October. I bet the packages per round is going to rival if not surpass that of what you see at any points/national event this season.

I am talking about NHRA purses and contingency,I had chance to win as much,as much if not more 30 years ago at NHRA and IHRA points meets, now called NHRA Lucas oil divisionals and IHRA pro ams.

Bracket racing, yeah there are all kinds of big bucks races and is tough racing, wasn't knocking any of that.

Mike Taylor 3601

Jim Wahl 05-04-2016 02:31 PM

Re: NHRA and the Master Plan
 
Anybody else paying attention to the outlaw races out there? Recently at South Georgia Motorsports Park the had a race called "Lights Out" that netted over 60,000 spectators! That's right, SIXTY THOUSAND spectators (they were climbing over the fences to get in when the gates closed)
to watch all sorts of big and small tire, turbo, supercharged. N/A race cars do battle for unbelievable amounts of money. Is this the way of the future? Jim

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Bob Don 05-04-2016 03:26 PM

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I always thought the master plan was to separate you from your wallet. (and it's working because I'm a willing participant!)


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