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james schaechter 05-20-2016 09:30 PM

Re: Best lifter?
 
We have been using the trend limited travel tool steel lifters that we get from Alan Roerich. We then send them to dynacron to get treated. We run 200 seat and over 400 open on nitrided cast cams with hundreds of runs. No issues.

ron mattson 05-20-2016 09:45 PM

Re: Best lifter?
 
Cast nitrided with Dynacron coating on cam and
Lifters works awesome, ran 2 yrs and cam looks
Perfect.

Alan Nyhus 05-21-2016 08:17 AM

Re: Best lifter?
 
James and Ron, a couple of questions:

- Are you having the cast cams nitrided and then Dynacron coated?

- Is a non-Dynacroned, nitrided cam is okay?

- If you're going to Dynacron the cam, do you get a non-nitrided cam to start with?

- What are you doing for break in?

Feel free to PM me if you wish. Thanks in advance for the advice! :) -Al

tuffxf 05-21-2016 06:51 PM

Re: Best lifter?
 
Gday,
Very interested in the reply to the above question if you dont mind sharing, also any issue's with different oils or additives affecting the coatings?
Cheers
Paul

ron mattson 05-21-2016 09:56 PM

Re: Best lifter?
 
I have been nitriding the cam and having it
And the lifters both Dynacron coated. Have
Used all types of oil with no issues. I have been
Breaking in with soft springs also!

tuffxf 05-22-2016 04:53 AM

Re: Best lifter?
 
Gday Ron,
Thanks for the response!
Cheers
Paul

Alan Roehrich 05-22-2016 08:15 PM

Re: Best lifter?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by james schaechter (Post 503961)
We have been using the trend limited travel tool steel lifters that we get from Alan Roerich. We then send them to dynacron to get treated. We run 200 seat and over 400 open on nitrided cast cams with hundreds of runs. No issues.


I thought I got you guys a set or two of solids as well. Not sure if that is correct, or where they went, maybe in the 396 in the Corvette.

By the way, if anyone is concerned about oil flow to the top being too much, they have a pushrod cup with a 0.014" orifice. They can probably be added when ordering at a low or no cost upgrade.

Several DLC coating applicators say they do not like the Driven oil, and will not offer support to those using it. I do not know the story behind that, other than a few years ago, there were some lifters that the coating came off of in NASCAR engines. The Cup guys use less spring pressure than most Stock Eliminator guys use. No DLC coating applicator I know of will suggest or support their coating applied to a lifter being run on a cast iron cam core. I have had some tell me to coat the cast iron cam and the lifter, but I have not tried it, nor do I intend to.

james schaechter 05-23-2016 04:56 AM

Re: Best lifter?
 
Yes we had solids for the 396 as well.

Mike Taylor 3601 05-23-2016 09:24 AM

Re: Best lifter?
 
Robert,
I haven't used any coatings,use the P-55 cores,non- nitrided,PPPC lifters uncoated.
Use lucas break in oil and race oil.
Have switched them and broke them in to another cam,check the crown on the bottom of lifter if has .0012'' or more and smooth use again.
Mike Taylor 3601

ron mattson 05-23-2016 11:32 AM

Re: Best lifter?
 
Dynacron is not a dlc it is a tungsten disulfide
Lubricant coating and has a natural affinity or
Attraction to any oil, kinda has a property to keep
Oil on the surface making it a double benefit.


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