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Eric Merryfield 02-26-2018 12:51 PM
Re: Excessive Braking in Super Stock
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom Moock (Post 557005)
This morning in SStock watching video from starting, excessive braking and car looked out of shape, & tire smoke. Is Jerry Emmons the only one that gets DQ?
Can someone post a link? The only excessive braking happening up here in the north at this time of the year is when some Masshole(official correct term) cuts you off on the highway.

Thanks

Eric

Floyd Staggs 02-26-2018 02:12 PM
Re: Excessive Braking in Super Stock
 
The video is in Allen Sherman Facebook page.

Jeff Stout 02-26-2018 03:04 PM
Re: Excessive Braking in Super Stock
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by GTX JOHN (Post 557056)
A note of Clarification:

My name is John Irving = A 70ish slightly plump Senior Citizen.

I post quite regularly on this site as I am sure everybody is aware.

My son is Jon Irving = A 20 something young man.

He very seldom if every posts anything on this site.

The statements that I post here are strictly and only my
own personal opinions and impressions.

They are assuredly NOT those of my sons or our crew ......
certainly it is patently unfair to assail them for my statements
however much you may disagree or dislike me (Or probably Both).

That being said:

My son immediate upon exiting the track took responsibility
for his bad judgement and terrible display of lack of driving skill.
Indeed, he fully expected to be thrown out of the race and would
have accepted that without any further discussion!

We are grateful to NHRA for the warning and understand that there
will be no further warning given to him this year.

I can only speculate that the consideration that he races a dozen
Divisional and National races for the last 10 years without a single
incident or issue (500 plus passes) = may have influenced NHRA's
decision on how to handle the incident.

I also immediately communicated to him my disappointment with the
situation ......He does fully understand further issues may mean that
we may park our team for a period of time.

He further apologized to the Torres Team for his actions.
Thank you for the explanation.

Allen Sherman 02-27-2018 12:10 AM
Re: Excessive Braking in Super Stock
 
John/Jon I don’t personally know you and I don’t judge people based on them stating their opinion because I assure u I ALWAYS state mine...lol...and like I said originally I wasn’t bashing your son for his driving as I’ve done the exact same thing, it happens. My point I was trying to make that somehow has gone askew is NHRA’s uneven applying of the braking rule. I think if the precedence is one warning then next time a DQ we can all live with that. As long as there’s a clear line in the sand and the rule is enforced evenly then everyone can race. That was my whole point all along, but it turned into a whole different can of worms, even as far as one person claiming we were “whining” about what happened to Emmons last year...all u can do is laugh sometimes...lol

Allen

partsbob67 02-27-2018 09:32 PM
Re: Excessive Braking in Super Stock
 
wasn't mr emmons warned in pomona last year?

HR9121 02-27-2018 10:39 PM
Re: Excessive Braking in Super Stock
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by partsbob67 (Post 557181)
wasn't mr emmons warned in pomona last year?
He was but the one he got DQ'ed on he did nothing in my opinion to warrant a disqualification.

SSGN 02-28-2018 07:47 AM
Re: Excessive Braking in Super Stock
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by GTX JOHN (Post 557056)
A note of Clarification:

My name is John Irving = A 70ish slightly plump Senior Citizen.

I post quite regularly on this site as I am sure everybody is aware.

My son is Jon Irving = A 20 something young man.

He very seldom if every posts anything on this site.

The statements that I post here are strictly and only my
own personal opinions and impressions.

They are assuredly NOT those of my sons or our crew ......
certainly it is patently unfair to assail them for my statements
however much you may disagree or dislike me (Or probably Both).

That being said:

My son immediate upon exiting the track took responsibility
for his bad judgement and terrible display of lack of driving skill.
Indeed, he fully expected to be thrown out of the race and would
have accepted that without any further discussion!

We are grateful to NHRA for the warning and understand that there
will be no further warning given to him this year.

I can only speculate that the consideration that he races a dozen
Divisional and National races for the last 10 years without a single
incident or issue (500 plus passes) = may have influenced NHRA's
decision on how to handle the incident.

I also immediately communicated to him my disappointment with the
situation ......He does fully understand further issues may mean that
we may park our team for a period of time.

He further apologized to the Torres Team for his actions.

Class in Class Racing right there! Everyone makes mistakes , classy people admit it and take ownership.

Pete Lanciers 02-28-2018 08:54 AM
Re: Excessive Braking in Super Stock
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by SSGN (Post 557190)
Class in Class Racing right there! Everyone makes mistakes , classy people admit it and take ownership.
Being a relative newby here, I have not piped in here on any of the controversial subjects out of a healthy respect for the dues you all paid through the years while I was sidelined elsewhere. However on this subject I believe my experience with Irving Family Racing qualifies me to testify that both John and his son Jon are exactly the kind of people that you can be proud to call a colleague, competitor and if you're lucky a friend.

When I announced my return to Drag Racing in this forum last September the first offer of support and guidance I received was from John and his family, in fact upon learning of my need for a trailer John towed me one that Jon had built from Nevada to San Diego to help me out. Now I realize that most of you do not know me and therefore would probably be inclined to discount my position on this, but it is my humble opinion that when Wally was thinking about putting family first @ NHRA the Irving Family was exactly what he envisioned...

GTX JOHN 02-28-2018 03:01 PM
Re: Excessive Braking in Super Stock
 
We are thankful and appreciative of everyone's
understanding in this matter.

Jon Irving
John Irving


BTW: The very next round I dialed him 3 to 4 hundreds faster than
the car could run so he would NOT have any reason to touch the brakes......period!
(Check the Results)

partsbob67 02-28-2018 09:35 PM
Re: Excessive Braking in Super Stock
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by HR9121 (Post 557187)
He was but the one he got DQ'ed on he did nothing in my opinion to warrant a disqualification.
i agree.


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