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Andrew Hill 08-08-2019 01:50 PM

Re: Indy quota increase
 
There are 6 sportsman categories with quotas, here's the breakdown of entries between this year and last, up to this point.

Class 2018 2019
SS 172 162
Stock 171 163
SC 120 73
SG 116 78
TS 0 36
TD 0 43

Total 579 555

So there's only 24 fewer cars than 2018 entered right now, with a ton of spots left in SG/SC. If Stock and SS are anything to go by, lots of people are waiting until they have to to enter in those classes.

I would expect more cars in total this year than last by the time Indy gets here. Obviously this doesn't include Comp/FSS since those don't have quotas and people generally wait until the very last minute since they can, but it seems like car counts are up in general this year in both of those compared to last as well.

It's a bummer for the people who didn't get entered, but I'd be surprised if there were any spots added in Stock/SS.

SSHemi364 08-08-2019 02:39 PM

Re: Indy quota increase
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TD3506 (Post 594187)
"The only issue that I see with that is that racers who made the effort to get grade points can then get knocked out by someone with a fast car that didn't."

EXACTLY!

We have all known it was 160 since the season started... you wanna run The Go... then load your stuff up 4-5 times the other 51 weeks out of the year and Go to the track.

There are racers who took the time, energy, and $ to run enough points races to be able to enter. Many thought long and hard before parting with their $380 to enter The Go knowing they would be competing with 160 (plus past World Champions) for 128 spots. To raise the quota at this point does nothing but reward those who stayed home.

I honestly cant believe the number of folks who think the rules should be altered for them (and the... cause they did it in the past reasoning is BS)... ya sound like a bunch of high school kids who didn't show up for practice all week but think they deserve to play Friday night cause they can run fast or jump high.

Troy Galbraith
#3506
317-258-5641

BS Mr. you cant presume to know everyone's situation. Oh, by the way, from your other "quote", I guess I missed the schedule with 51 divisional races.

Whalen3186 08-08-2019 07:08 PM

Re: Indy quota increase
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SSHemi364 (Post 594207)
BS Mr. you cant presume to know everyone's situation. Oh, by the way, from your other "quote", I guess I missed the schedule with 51 divisional races.

Nobody said 51 LODRS races. There’s 44 this year, throw in the National opens and Sportsnationals and you’ve got over 70 opportunities to earn grade points.

Tom O 08-08-2019 07:20 PM

Re: Indy quota increase
 
Unfortunately I don't think Glendora will increase the S/SS quotas, but what did happen to 180?? Another question, how/why is T/D at 7 over quota?

HR9121 08-08-2019 09:31 PM

Re: Indy quota increase
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom O (Post 594219)
Unfortunately I don't think Glendora will increase the S/SS quotas, but what did happen to 180?? Another question, how/why is T/D at 7 over quota?

The reason for the cut in quota was to make room in the schedule for Top Dragster and Top Sportsman. Those classes were added to Indy this year. I presume it's over quota just like how Stock and SS, past champions and Gold cards etc.

Rick Bailey 08-08-2019 10:36 PM

Re: Indy quota increase
 
Troy, I personally think that this whole quota thing is a bunch of BS !

Decreasing the numbers is screwing the average racer! To have grade 5 and 6's not get into a event !

Take my case ..... grade 5 and couldn't get into Joliet nor St Louis ... that's 2 national events less than 150 miles from my drive and cant go !

At this rate, why even try !

Just go to Fall Classic, get 1 grade point ..... then enter the US Nationals !!!

X-TECH MAN 08-09-2019 08:27 AM

Re: Indy quota increase
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Whalen3186 (Post 594217)
Nobody said 51 LODRS races. There’s 44 this year, throw in the National opens and Sportsnationals and you’ve got over 70 opportunities to earn grade points.

No thanks.....Its NOT worth it !

Bruce Noland 08-09-2019 08:48 AM

Re: Indy quota increase
 
We are the problem because we, the Sportsman Racers, don't stand as a unit. nhra's quota arrangement is just another reminder of their contempt for us. They dropped all the quotas because they wanted to pirate two more categories from IHRA and still have a tight tv schedule. And now, more than ever, nhra has become a traveling circus and we are their clowns. They have zero respect for us and we do nothing to stop it. In these days of technology we have opportunities to at least expose nhra's behavior. Many years ago, nhra was pilfered from its membership and now it is run by men and women who want to gorge themselves with the money we help provide to them. There are ways to get nhra's attention and that is by the Sportsman Racers getting together and demanding better treatment. We've all heard the tired old statement that it is their ballgame, but it is not their ballgame. It belongs to the racers and it's high time that you guys figured it out. Oh, has any seen or heard anything from our SRAC members recently? Wonder why? Just think about joining together in an effort to make things better for our sport.

pentastarrail 08-09-2019 08:48 AM

Re: Indy quota increase
 
It's hysterical to watch this "stuff" about the Indy Quota's.
It's the same crying every year.

The only person you can have an issue with is the guy in the mirror.
EVERYBODY knows it takes A LOT of grade points to get in, NO SURPRISE.
You either play by the rules and go to 7 or 8 divisionals or opens or don't and then you get to watch.

You can't argue about it. Some guys are dedicated to the sport and attend what they have to to get in. Others would rather come on here and "bitch" instead of going to the track.

Like I said, argue with the guy in the mirror and tell him that "If you want to race at Indy you better go to 7 or 8 events".

It's THAT EASY.
And don't start the BS about my job this or the distance that or the kids with the other thing. You are either dedicated to racing and making Indy or NOT.

OH, and just in case, here's a NEWS FLASH for you.
NEXT years Indy race will take 7 or 8 grade points to get in......AGAIN

And the reason I'm writing this is because I to would have liked to go to Indy for TD BUT I didn't have enough GP's due to my own issues.
However I don't have an issue with the process and know what I have to do to get there. There's NO MAGIC. Fair is Fair.

Billy Nees 08-09-2019 09:51 AM

Re: Indy quota increase
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bruce Noland (Post 594249)
We are the problem because we, the Sportsman Racers, don't stand as a unit. nhra's quota arrangement is just another reminder of their contempt for us. They dropped all the quotas because they wanted to pirate two more categories from IHRA and still have a tight tv schedule. And now, more than ever, nhra has become a traveling circus and we are their clowns. They have zero respect for us and we do nothing to stop it. In these days of technology we have opportunities to at least expose nhra's behavior. Many years ago, nhra was pilfered from its membership and now it is run by men and women who want to gorge themselves with the money we help provide to them. There are ways to get nhra's attention and that is by the Sportsman Racers getting together and demanding better treatment. We've all heard the tired old statement that it is their ballgame, but it is not their ballgame. It belongs to the racers and it's high time that you guys figured it out. Oh, has any seen or heard anything from our SRAC members recently? Wonder why? Just think about joining together in an effort to make things better for our sport.

Well Bruce, this is one subject that you and I can agree on 100%!


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