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MR DERBY CITY 09-25-2019 01:59 PM

Re: Chiller recommendation.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick Schilling (Post 598425)
You probably should still get some input from someone on the tune up as well. You don't want to run the car stone cold, but I know of at least one instance of "overcooling" that caused a fuel injected car to slow in a very critical race.

A CHILLER was instrumental in a racer LOSING a heads up final in stock at INDY a few years ago.....it was EFI , but you can get a carb car TOO cold also.....

Lenny5160 09-25-2019 03:23 PM

Re: Chiller recommendation.
 
I'm not sure if it was hyperbole, but I heard somewhere (pretty sure it was Luke and Jed's podcast) that A-Dub's water was 40-something degrees for the Indy final this year.

Ed Wright 09-25-2019 03:49 PM

Re: Chiller recommendation.
 
I know that I’m old, and don’t know everything, but my FAST XFI LT1 EFI car is faster at 50 degrees, than when warm. Money spent for track rental testing was involved. Likes different timing and air/fuel tuning when that cold. Carbureted cars would likely gain the most with different jets. Or, a “heads up” carb jetted for it.
I have not had a car that was not faster cold.
FAST XFI has coolant temp correction tables/capabilities you can dial in for using the “chiller”.
Don’t have to touch a thing if you dialed those parameters in during testing. Just chill it & run it. Worth well over a tenth.

FED 387 09-25-2019 05:46 PM

Re: Chiller recommendation.
 
KDW 1403 check your PM

Ed Carpenter 09-25-2019 07:39 PM

Re: Chiller recommendation.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick Schilling (Post 598425)
You probably should still get some input from someone on the tune up as well. You don't want to run the car stone cold, but I know of at least one instance of "overcooling" that caused a fuel injected car to slow in a very critical race.

That’s what happened to Jim Scheacter at Indy this year

Danny Ashley 09-25-2019 08:15 PM

Re: Chiller recommendation.
 
Here's what Jim Marshall told me one year at Indy. " Ice is for cooling beer, not engines." I still get a grin when I think of him saying that.

Dale Hulquist 09-25-2019 09:03 PM

Re: Chiller recommendation.
 
Kdw1403, after seeing several versions of the ghetto coolers i decided to build my own the cooler was $35 ,the 1250gph bildge pump was $90, 16ft of 1" rubber hose $30, 2 jiffy tite hose ends 2male 2 female $90.So around $245 and a 12volt battery source your good , mine is 5years old now and works good, just add ice and water and it will chill engine down to 60 degrees.

Rick Schilling 09-25-2019 10:00 PM

Re: Chiller recommendation.
 
[QUOTE=MR DERBY CITY;598449]A CHILLER was instrumental in a racer LOSING a heads up final in stock at INDY a few years ago.....

That's the one.

Alan Nyhus 09-26-2019 08:19 AM

Re: Chiller recommendation.
 
You don't have to ice the bejeezus out of things to get the benefit of a chiller. Just recirculating 'room temp' water will give a nice increase in performance. I carry three 5 gallon water jugs in the trailer just for this.

As to how cold you can get things...it depends on the car. Generally, a carb'd stick car is going to have more latitude than a carb'd automatic.

I've built quite a few of these. For those wanting to do their own, make sure and pay attention to the size of the hose, fittings, etc. for good flow while keeping the pressure within limits. Many of the 110 volt pumps being used have flow rates too high to be effective at pulling heat out. And pressures well beyond what should be used.

Like anything, do your homework. ;) -Al

jmcarter 09-26-2019 10:06 AM

Re: Chiller recommendation.
 
Was reviewing the available pumps yesterday and there are so many options and it's been too many years since I studied flow dynamics and such, is there a particular GPH flow rate that works best for pulling heat out of the motor? The CR-UC-BPCO17B check valve seems to be the most expensive component to buy, anyone have a good source?

Appreciate the help.


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