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jmcarter 10-03-2019 12:32 PM

Re: Did we land on the Moon?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Andys dad (Post 599013)
As a 45 year IT professional and geek - this thread is fake news.

Drag racers never want to accept responsibility.

The cars are excellent examples of precision but can have a rare blip or hiccup.

Pop corn machines causing electrical lows - electrical surges do not effect the out come.

All current day computers and software have built in fault tolerances and protections against such things especially where accurate outcomes are vital.

Look no father than an occasional fly in the ointment.

More than my 2 cents worth.

If so how do you explain NHRA reruns at Indy for some .90 cars?

Andys dad 10-03-2019 12:53 PM

Re: Did we land on the Moon?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jmcarter (Post 599022)
If so how do you explain NHRA reruns at Indy for some .90 cars?

I don't need it explained - you do. Ask them.

Enough bitching wins sometimes.

It is a lot more likely that something in all of the myriad of electronics in today's cars there is an issue.


Ron

Kevin Panzino 10-03-2019 01:10 PM

Re: Did we land on the Moon?
 
The timing control hardware is totally independent of the pc used to interface with it and where they enter the dials and see the display of the results. The pc running slow would only delay getting the run ready or displaying the run. The timing computer is separate, uses solid state oscillator for calculating the timing and has no variance with voltage.

The Symth family from portatree also can also clear this up.

Now, the heights of the beams is indeed critical and could explain lane to lane differences as well as “missing” a very skinny dragster wheel.

jmcarter 10-03-2019 02:32 PM

Re: Did we land on the Moon?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Andys dad (Post 599024)
I don't need it explained - you do. Ask them.

Enough bitching wins sometimes.

It is a lot more likely that something in all of the myriad of electronics in today's cars there is an issue.


Ron

Perhaps you’re right, Jeff Taylor doesn’t know jack... (ref. the podcast I mentioned earlier).

I’ll admit I don’t know much about the geek equation, hope you and Andy aren’t the victim of karma in the upcoming west coast races.

Wayne Kerr 10-03-2019 03:27 PM

Re: Did we land on the Moon?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Andys dad (Post 599013)
As a 45 year IT professional and geek - this thread is fake news.

Drag racers never want to accept responsibility.

The cars are excellent examples of precision but can have a rare blip or hiccup.

Pop corn machines causing electrical lows - electrical surges do not effect the out come.

All current day computers and software have built in fault tolerances and protections against such things especially where accurate outcomes are vital.

Look no father than an occasional fly in the ointment.

More than my 2 cents worth.

Hello Ron,
I think you are a good guy and we have spoken on a number of occasions. I do however think you are being naïve, guys like Johnny D, Dan Fletcher and Peter Biondo who have made thousands of runs can spot an erroneous time slip from a mile away.
Bob Brockmeyer will defend his timing system to the death, he has to.
I have seen first hand a situation where the M.O.V. should have been .0000 each and every run, where in actuality the time slips indicated up to an .008 difference on the time slips that I saw. This was at the U.S. Nationals and yes they re-ran the entire round.
Here's an interesting test from a few years ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74ztIJ4Atgs

See you at the races,
Wayne Kerr

Andys dad 10-03-2019 04:28 PM

Re: Did we land on the Moon?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jmcarter (Post 599031)
Perhaps you’re right, Jeff Taylor doesn’t know jack... (ref. the podcast I mentioned earlier).

I’ll admit I don’t know much about the geek equation, hope you and Andy aren’t the victim of karma in the upcoming west coast races.

I never said anybody does not know jack - I am not naive - I have been doing this a while as well.

I commented on people thinking it was cause by low voltage.

But as usual on here everybody knows a whole lot more than me.

I had abandoned posting on here for that reason but when it came to computers I am sure I am one of he smartest guys around.

Sorry to interrupt -- I will return to my silent own opinions.

Peace

Have a very nice day
.

jmcarter 10-03-2019 04:42 PM

Re: Did we land on the Moon?
 
Ron, you’re kinda like 1320Racer, good opinions, delivery not so much. Have a blessed silence.

Andys dad 10-03-2019 04:58 PM

Re: Did we land on the Moon?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jmcarter (Post 599040)
Ron, you’re kinda like 1320Racer, good opinions, delivery not so much. Have a blessed silence.

I won't be too offended - people just are not be able to handle when a thread changes direction.

I am breaking my own silence

jmcarter 10-03-2019 05:09 PM

Re: Did we land on the Moon?
 
No offense intended Ron. When people stop contributing we all lose, heck after talking to the “Mad Hawaiian, aka Marshall’s son, at the BabyGators I really like him. We share a passion that binds us all.

cmracing 10-03-2019 05:48 PM

Re: Did we land on the Moon?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Polhill (Post 598936)
I remember one year at the D3 ET bracket finals. The day before I had been runner up in the Race of Champions. First round of regular eliminations comes around, I'm staged, my first yellow comes on and then my red light. I hadn't moved (foot firmly on the brake pedal) and both my stage lights were still on. Needles to say I protested, and got no where. It's made me wonder ever since.

I have seen this happen, and to one guy it happened twice on different weekends. Something was strange about his car. I had it on camera, car never moved, stage light was still on when his side went red.........


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