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Bernhard 08-15-2021 12:51 PM

Re: starting line gear ratio?
 
How does engine cubic inch and an engine's ability to RPM factor into the SLR?

Mike Rietow 08-15-2021 11:23 PM

Re: starting line gear ratio?
 
I caught a little NHRA Stock qualifying highlights today from Topeka. I don't know much about this class really as far how elaborate the engines are allowed to be, or how much they have to weigh, but this car runs about like my n/a 23 degree sbc on 10" tire 69Nova.

What SLR do these class cars typically run? What transmission and how many rpm's do they typically cross? It was a current model Camaro, is it limited to an LS? I think the announcer said 409cid. Just curious, run pretty good seemed like.


https://i.imgur.com/LUQbPl3.png

6130 08-15-2021 11:56 PM

Re: starting line gear ratio?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Rietow (Post 645577)
I caught a little NHRA Stock qualifying highlights today from Topeka. I don't know much about this class really as far how elaborate the engines are allowed to be, or how much they have to weigh, but this car runs about like my n/a 23 degree sbc on 10" tire 69Nova.

What SLR do these class cars typically run? What transmission and how many rpm's do they typically cross? It was a current model Camaro, is it limited to an LS? I think the announcer said 409cid. Just curious, run pretty good seemed like.

An FS/C car is not a traditional Stock Eliminator race car, it's a factory race car with no VIN. The factory race cars come with Ford 9" rear ends and engine combinations that may not be available in regular production-based cars.

A better comparison with a traditional production-based Stock Eliminator race car, might be a '99-'02 LS 346 V8 Camaro A/SA car. The current national record in A/SA is 9.65 at 136.3 mph.

A car like that would have a stock throttle body, stock intake manifold, stock heads with an NHRA-legal valve job, stock bore (plus up to .040"), stock stroke, stock compression ratio pistons, stock valve lift, stock rocker arm ratio, and so on, with a "metric" TH200 3-speed automatic transmission with no trans brake, an 8" converter, and 9x30" tubeless radial slicks.

Steve Stickel 08-16-2021 12:40 AM

Re: starting line gear ratio?
 
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here's a more detailed chart borrowed from Cale Aransons Black Magic clutch website ..........lots of useful information there.

http://www.blackmagicclutches.com/index.html

Mike Rietow 08-16-2021 01:07 AM

Re: starting line gear ratio?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 6130 (Post 645581)
An FS/C car is not a traditional Stock Eliminator race car, it's a factory race car with no VIN. The factory race cars come with Ford 9" rear ends and engine combinations that may not be available in regular production-based cars.

A better comparison with a traditional production-based Stock Eliminator race car, might be a '99-'02 LS 346 V8 Camaro A/SA car. The current national record in A/SA is 9.65 at 136.3 mph.

A car like that would have a stock throttle body, stock intake manifold, stock heads with an NHRA-legal valve job, stock bore (plus up to .040"), stock stroke, stock compression ratio pistons, stock valve lift, stock rocker arm ratio, and so on, with a "metric" TH200 3-speed automatic transmission with no trans brake, an 8" converter, and 9x30" tubeless radial slicks.

Very cool, thanks

I gotta find a way to watch/follow these cars more

GTX JOHN 08-17-2021 05:49 PM

Re: starting line gear ratio?
 
Rod: 350HP and 3600LB = 12.20 should be attainable.

Our Aspen Wagon NOP Stocker with 318 that put out actual
340 HP and weighed 3600 plus held the record @ 12.0 over
ten years ago.and ran 11.70 to 11.80 when needed.

It is an Auto so not comparable on ratios but shows what can be done on that HP/Weight.2.75 Low and 5:13 gear at Sea Level. 14.11 ratio and I think that stick would need a bunch more without a torque converter. 9.0x30 Radials (92.5 Cir.)

Stan Weiss 08-17-2021 06:39 PM

Re: starting line gear ratio?
 
While HP and weight are very important you cannot leave out tire size when talking about SLR.


Stan

Adger Smith 08-24-2021 12:20 AM

Re: starting line gear ratio?
 
Stan,
I think I said" If traction is unlimited" or did I say available... ??

Stan Weiss 08-24-2021 04:51 PM

Re: starting line gear ratio?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Adger Smith (Post 646198)
Stan,
I think I said" If traction is unlimited" or did I say available... ??


Adger,
Size was to general a word to have used, I should have said Diameter.


Stan

GUMP 08-24-2021 09:56 PM

Re: starting line gear ratio?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 6130 (Post 645581)
An FS/C car is not a traditional Stock Eliminator race car, it's a factory race car with no VIN. The factory race cars come with Ford 9" rear ends and engine combinations that may not be available in regular production-based cars.

A better comparison with a traditional production-based Stock Eliminator race car, might be a '99-'02 LS 346 V8 Camaro A/SA car. The current national record in A/SA is 9.65 at 136.3 mph.

A car like that would have a stock throttle body, stock intake manifold, stock heads with an NHRA-legal valve job, stock bore (plus up to .040"), stock stroke, stock compression ratio pistons, stock valve lift, stock rocker arm ratio, and so on, with a "metric" TH200 3-speed automatic transmission with no trans brake, an 8" converter, and 9x30" tubeless radial slicks.

You get my vote for "Clueless Post Of The Year".....


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