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jmcarter 11-01-2021 03:39 PM

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They run Pro Stock Motorcycle? Who knew?

Stan Weiss 11-01-2021 04:06 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BKSG1198 (Post 651327)
Crazy thing, it's been happening for years....this just happens to be the latest news that has everyone talking and saying how they don't think it's fair....funny how nobody mentioned how Eddie K. lost "oil pressure" against Angelle 2nd round of PSB to give her a bye-run. I see it happen all the time when team cars are involved in the sportsman ranks, boss man is in the hunt for a win or championship and ladders work out that they run the "team car" in the semis or finals and it turns into a bye run for the main car. Just how things work out and why you invest in a 2nd car for times like that. It is what it is....


Please explain to me why Eddie would do that?


Stan




https://www.nhra.com/standings/2021/...ro-bike-battle



<table class="table table--standings"><thead><tr><th class="table__right table_contain">Position</th><th class="table__left">Driver</th><th class="table__right table_contain">Points</th><th class="table__right">Points Behind Leader</th><th class="table__left">Vehicle</th></tr></thead><tbody><tr class=" qualified-true"><th class="table__right table_contain">01</th><td class="table__left"> Matt Smith </td><td class="table__right table_contain">1020</td><td class="table__right">0</td><td class="table__left">Denso/Stockseth Racing Buell</td></tr><tr class=" qualified-true"><th class="table__right table_contain">02</th><td class="table__left"> Eddie Krawiec </td><td class="table__right table_contain">920</td><td class="table__right">-100</td><td class="table__left">Vance & Hines</td></tr><tr class=" qualified-true"><th class="table__right table_contain">03</th><td class="table__left"> Scotty Pollacheck </td><td class="table__right table_contain">885</td><td class="table__right">-135</td><td class="table__left">Denso/Strutmasters/MSR Buell</td></tr><tr class=" qualified-true"><th class="table__right table_contain">04</th><td class="table__left"> Angelle Sampey </td><td class="table__right table_contain">835</td><td class="table__right">-185</td><td class="table__left">Mission Foods Vance & Hines Suzuki</td></tr><tr class=" qualified-true"><th class="table__right table_contain">05</th><td class="table__left"> Angie Smith </td><td class="table__right table_contain">835</td><td class="table__right">-185</td><td class="table__left">Denso/Stockseth Racing Buell</td></tr><tr class=" qualified-true"><th class="table__right table_contain">06</th><td class="table__left"> Andrew Hines </td><td class="table__right table_contain">800</td><td class="table__right">-220</td><td class="table__left">Vance & Hines</td></tr></tbody></table>

Adub464Q 11-01-2021 04:14 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BKSG1198 (Post 651327)
Crazy thing, it's been happening for years....this just happens to be the latest news that has everyone talking and saying how they don't think it's fair....funny how nobody mentioned how Eddie K. lost "oil pressure" against Angelle 2nd round of PSB to give her a bye-run. I see it happen all the time when team cars are involved in the sportsman ranks, boss man is in the hunt for a win or championship and ladders work out that they run the "team car" in the semis or finals and it turns into a bye run for the main car. Just how things work out and why you invest in a 2nd car for times like that. It is what it is....

Just because it has been happening, does not mean that we do not care for that activity. I certainly understand the business side of it, but this is not good for the integrity of our sport, regardless of the category.

As someone mentioned, I think the ladder game is all fair....what is not fair is the amount of BS the elite team gave Greg for doing it in Pomona 2 years ago. Yet, to employ the same strategy themselves, they believe they are geniuses....it doesnt work that way.

Let's also remember that the KB racing team had a prime opportunity in 2017 when Greg Anderson raced Bo Butner in the semis to have "Team Orders" and Bo ended up the champ.

Tim H 11-01-2021 04:53 PM

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I vote for putting Jason Line back in a car for Pomona and let him qualify at 177mph opposite an Elite car for 1st round.

4406mopar 11-01-2021 04:58 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Adub464Q (Post 651334)
Just because it has been happening, does not mean that we do not care for that activity. I certainly understand the business side of it, but this is not good for the integrity of our sport, regardless of the category.

As someone mentioned, I think the ladder game is all fair....what is not fair is the amount of BS the elite team gave Greg for doing it in Pomona 2 years ago. Yet, to employ the same strategy themselves, they believe they are geniuses....it doesnt work that way.

Let's also remember that the KB racing team had a prime opportunity in 2017 when Greg Anderson raced Bo Butner in the semis to have "Team Orders" and Bo ended up the champ.

Could it be the team order was for Bo to win? Seems the talk at the time was they needed Bo for his EFI knowledge. Nobody could run with them the first two years of EFI so it was their team going to win it.

Everyone was high fiving each other when KB tried it and failed, said how great it was. So now it’s a bad thing?

Ya’all are free to start a multi car team and show us what you would do.

4406mopar 11-01-2021 05:06 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Stan Weiss (Post 651332)
Please explain to me why Eddie would do that?


Stan




https://www.nhra.com/standings/2021/...ro-bike-battle



<table class="table table--standings"><thead><tr><th class="table__right table_contain">Position</th><th class="table__left">Driver</th><th class="table__right table_contain">Points</th><th class="table__right">Points Behind Leader</th><th class="table__left">Vehicle</th></tr></thead><tbody><tr class=" qualified-true"><th class="table__right table_contain">01</th><td class="table__left"> Matt Smith </td><td class="table__right table_contain">1020</td><td class="table__right">0</td><td class="table__left">Denso/Stockseth Racing Buell</td></tr><tr class=" qualified-true"><th class="table__right table_contain">02</th><td class="table__left"> Eddie Krawiec </td><td class="table__right table_contain">920</td><td class="table__right">-100</td><td class="table__left">Vance & Hines</td></tr><tr class=" qualified-true"><th class="table__right table_contain">03</th><td class="table__left"> Scotty Pollacheck </td><td class="table__right table_contain">885</td><td class="table__right">-135</td><td class="table__left">Denso/Strutmasters/MSR Buell</td></tr><tr class=" qualified-true"><th class="table__right table_contain">04</th><td class="table__left"> Angelle Sampey </td><td class="table__right table_contain">835</td><td class="table__right">-185</td><td class="table__left">Mission Foods Vance & Hines Suzuki</td></tr><tr class=" qualified-true"><th class="table__right table_contain">05</th><td class="table__left"> Angie Smith </td><td class="table__right table_contain">835</td><td class="table__right">-185</td><td class="table__left">Denso/Stockseth Racing Buell</td></tr><tr class=" qualified-true"><th class="table__right table_contain">06</th><td class="table__left"> Andrew Hines </td><td class="table__right table_contain">800</td><td class="table__right">-220</td><td class="table__left">Vance & Hines</td></tr></tbody></table>

You have posted the points for the pro bike battle.

I can explain why Eddie did that, Angelle was 25 points behind the points leader, he was 111 behind the leader. There is 86 reasons.

Frank Castros 11-01-2021 05:11 PM

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It's disappointing but I think we all get it. How many chances do you have to win a championship when your teammate in the other lane is out of the running?

Ralph A Powell 11-01-2021 05:18 PM

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In other Sports it’s called Points Shaving!

BillyCarroll 11-01-2021 06:41 PM

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I don't think anyone has an issue with the ladder. I consider Jason a good friend so i pay pretty good attention to the KB cars and have had a good working relationship with them prior to Jason driving the second car so i have watched as both he and Greg both run for championships. Pulling for the two of them and knowing where the points would fall pending their head to head match ups i can remember many runs where i thought that it would have been better if one car was "off a touch" when they lined up, but those cars always went down the track regardless of how it impacted the points. That is the difference between how they handled it versus what appeared to happen yesterday.

tommy d 11-01-2021 07:16 PM

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At least the Elite guys didn't start fighting the KB team over it. That seems to be their M.O.


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