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Chris Hardy 01-21-2022 11:34 AM

Re: Cylinder head flow - What is crucial in a stocker?
 
I don't know if this is what you are looking for.
These are my basic rules:
.100" lift, don't waste your time making this flow.
You want the most flow at the fastest piston speed areas from 1/3 through 2/3 of the stroke.
I don't monitor this page much, so any questions, please message me on my FB page.
Thanks
Chris Hardy
RET

Stan Weiss 01-21-2022 12:53 PM

Re: Cylinder head flow - What is crucial in a stocker?
 
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You can also look at what some call "Piston Flow Demand". This is calculated by using engine RPM (Time) and change in Volume above the piston. This graph is a 305 ci @ 7000 RPM

Stan

jamie2370 01-21-2022 04:57 PM

Re: Cylinder head flow - What is crucial in a stocker?
 
What I can tell you is this. You can take a sbc stocker combo, put decent shortblock in it, do only the allowed valve job to the heads with best valves and springs, assemble with the latest greatest cam and lifters, put it in the car with a name brand carb, name brand trans and converter and I can almost guarantee you won't be within 7 tenths of the top cars with that combo. SO....heads and intake are 90% of the power. Plus if they really answered your question then they couldn't charge $5000 for a set of stocker heads and $1800 for an intake lol

Frank Castros 01-21-2022 07:28 PM

Re: Cylinder head flow - What is crucial in a stocker?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jamie2370 (Post 655989)
What I can tell you is this. You can take a sbc stocker combo, put decent shortblock in it, do only the allowed valve job to the heads with best valves and springs, assemble with the latest greatest cam and lifters, put it in the car with a name brand carb, name brand trans and converter and I can almost guarantee you won't be within 7 tenths of the top cars with that combo. SO....heads and intake are 90% of the power. Plus if they really answered your question then they couldn't charge $5000 for a set of stocker heads and $1800 for an intake lol

Pretty much the state of the union, right?

Race Wife 01-22-2022 10:16 AM

Re: Cylinder head flow - What is crucial in a stocker?
 
On the same thought you can and I am guilty of this, give someone the best engine and drive train and be .07 slower than the fast guys. Friends are the cheapest increase in performance.

Billy Nees 01-22-2022 10:20 AM

Re: Cylinder head flow - What is crucial in a stocker?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Race Wife (Post 656017)
On the same thought you can and I am guilty of this, give someone the best engine and drive train and be .07 slower than the fast guys. Friends are the cheapest increase in performance.

If I may, I would like to make a small correction to your quote;
Listening to friends is the cheapest increase in performance.

outlaw 01-22-2022 12:54 PM

Re: Cylinder head flow - What is crucial in a stocker?
 
I think when it comes to performance advise don’t let who is telling you they are the best work on your stuff go to the track and all the cars that you are amazed by let whoever they say is the best that’s who you want working on your stuff. A lot of our drag racing heroes know more than the guys at the machine shop. I know I used to work in a machine shop and when some of the old school drag racers came in and started spitting out cam tech and stuff then when they left I’d be standing there looking like Dewey Cox after talking to Elivis in the movie walk hard.
Terry

Randy Wells 01-22-2022 04:20 PM

Re: Cylinder head flow - What is crucial in a stocker?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jamie2370 (Post 655989)
What I can tell you is this. You can take a sbc stocker combo, put decent shortblock in it, do only the allowed valve job to the heads with best valves and springs, assemble with the latest greatest cam and lifters, put it in the car with a name brand carb, name brand trans and converter and I can almost guarantee you won't be within 7 tenths of the top cars with that combo. SO....heads and intake are 90% of the power. Plus if they really answered your question then they couldn't charge $5000 for a set of stocker heads and $1800 for an intake lol

What percentage of ET do you think is attributed to, suspension, shocks, weight distribution, transmission and overall set up of chassis?

Randy Wells
I/S 5628

jamie2370 01-22-2022 04:58 PM

Re: Cylinder head flow - What is crucial in a stocker?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Randy Wells (Post 656036)
What percentage of ET do you think is attributed to, suspension, shocks, weight distribution, transmission and overall set up of chassis?

Randy Wells
I/S 5628

A decent portion. In my case I am refering to a proven car that has been a second under.

B Parker 01-22-2022 08:49 PM

Re: Cylinder head flow - What is crucial in a stocker?
 
So, let's take a small block chevy. How much HP do you think it takes to pick up a tenth? To make it easy let's say a 69, 350/255 hp combo. BP


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