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Dave Noll 07-18-2022 02:04 PM

Re: PJ1 shortage
 
Not that I want to give THAT show any attention, but they had a chemist create this; http://pimpjuicetraction.com

Barry Polley 07-18-2022 03:55 PM

Re: PJ1 shortage
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Noll (Post 664488)
Not that I want to give THAT show any attention, but they had a chemist create this; http://pimpjuicetraction.com

It might not be good for the wheel speed cars on a prepped surface??
Too much hook and tires start chunking. Hope they have it figured out or we will all be doing "No Prep"

Billy Nees 07-18-2022 05:11 PM

Re: PJ1 shortage
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry Polley (Post 664496)
Hope they have it figured out or we will all be doing "No Prep"

OK! I'm good with that!

nhramnl 07-19-2022 02:56 PM

Re: PJ1 shortage
 
I have had good success with Elmer's. You just apply a thin film to the track and the tires, and allow it to become tacky before you pull up to stage. I've also read that it's very good for the environment (creates no carbon dioxide). Works on electric cars, too.

Jeff Stout 07-19-2022 05:58 PM

Re: PJ1 shortage
 
Dr Pepper syrup has worked the best

The Hawk 07-20-2022 09:47 PM

Re: PJ1 shortage
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 664500)
OK! I'm good with that!

Same here! Pretty sure my Super Street car would be ok too!

BKSG1198 07-21-2022 10:01 AM

Re: PJ1 shortage
 
It's basically all glue that is becoming an issue, PJH & VP. VP has come out with a new formula of glue that needs more attention than most stuff. It basically bypasses the chemical that they would get from Germany. In the past for cars like ours (Stk/SS, .90) it was spray the full 1320 in the morning and drag or rotate the rest of the days to keep the glue where it needs to be, with adding gold dust and a small mist to the starting line to cover bald spots. The new VP needs to be drug, rotated and cars going down as a normal pace for it to work properly. They have been using the new VP at Cecil this past weekend and mixing it with PJH to come up with a formula that could work but, still trying to find the right mix. They were spraying and dragging on a regular basis after almost every qualifying group of .90. The chemical that is missing that that "stick" they keep the cars glued to the track and pulls your shoes off when you're walking. I have heard that Atco & Leb Valley have plenty of glue but, some other tracks have already called me about going to 1/8 mile until they can get some in.

Adub464Q 07-21-2022 01:50 PM

Re: PJ1 shortage
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BKSG1198 (Post 664616)
It's basically all glue that is becoming an issue, PJH & VP. VP has come out with a new formula of glue that needs more attention than most stuff. It basically bypasses the chemical that they would get from Germany. In the past for cars like ours (Stk/SS, .90) it was spray the full 1320 in the morning and drag or rotate the rest of the days to keep the glue where it needs to be, with adding gold dust and a small mist to the starting line to cover bald spots. The new VP needs to be drug, rotated and cars going down as a normal pace for it to work properly. They have been using the new VP at Cecil this past weekend and mixing it with PJH to come up with a formula that could work but, still trying to find the right mix. They were spraying and dragging on a regular basis after almost every qualifying group of .90. The chemical that is missing that that "stick" they keep the cars glued to the track and pulls your shoes off when you're walking. I have heard that Atco & Leb Valley have plenty of glue but, some other tracks have already called me about going to 1/8 mile until they can get some in.

There is nothing wrong with the VP stuff, it just takes a different approach as you detail. What we have realized with our local tracks (Ardmore/XRP) is that it take a lot of dragging on the VP compound to make it work correctly. You cannot just spray some glue down, that makes it even worse and will make it slick as ever.

With all this traction compound talk lately, I think we are forgetting the responsibility of the organizations and the tracks. Their responsibility of the track surface is to make it SAFE, not to make it the best starting line of all time. It is the drivers/cars responsibility to make the car work with the track.

The above often gets lost when people start complaining about track prep.

Keith 944 07-21-2022 04:51 PM

Re: PJ1 shortage
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Adub464Q (Post 664628)
There is nothing wrong with the VP stuff, it just takes a different approach as you detail. What we have realized with our local tracks (Ardmore/XRP) is that it take a lot of dragging on the VP compound to make it work correctly. You cannot just spray some glue down, that makes it even worse and will make it slick as ever.

With all this traction compound talk lately, I think we are forgetting the responsibility of the organizations and the tracks. Their responsibility of the track surface is to make it SAFE, not to make it the best starting line of all time. It is the drivers/cars responsibility to make the car work with the track.

The above often gets lost when people start complaining about track prep.

What we are seeing here is more down track. starting line can be dealt with and at this point is still working manageability

Regan Wilson 07-22-2022 06:48 AM

Re: PJ1 shortage
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Adub464Q (Post 664628)
There is nothing wrong with the VP stuff, it just takes a different approach as you detail. What we have realized with our local tracks (Ardmore/XRP) is that it take a lot of dragging on the VP compound to make it work correctly. You cannot just spray some glue down, that makes it even worse and will make it slick as ever.

With all this traction compound talk lately, I think we are forgetting the responsibility of the organizations and the tracks. Their responsibility of the track surface is to make it SAFE, not to make it the best starting line of all time. It is the drivers/cars responsibility to make the car work with the track.

The above often gets lost when people start complaining about track prep.

Austin I accidentally came off the throttle stop in low gear the first pass when I was at XRP. It didn't spin although next thing I know it was banging the chip. I recently found out D4 had been using VP at the Division races most of the year.


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