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Billy Nees 01-24-2024 05:22 PM
Re: Ways to check on the use of illegal devices
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Doug Hoven (Post 692130)
Now the real question is whether or not anyone would be so clever, or go through the amount of effort for the lousy purse we have, and something like this. My personal guess would be no, but ya never know.
Ya know, to certain types, winning at any cost is everything!

J.R. Haddad 01-24-2024 07:57 PM
Re: Ways to check on the use of illegal devices
 
To the under educated, what type of starting devices do we think are
being used. I would like to know what to look for in a competitors
car.

Thanks,

J.R.

SS3860 01-24-2024 08:30 PM
Re: Ways to check on the use of illegal devices
 
As a long time bracket racer that just started running stock last year, I can tell you with the quality of tourqe converters, tires and knowledgeable carb builders today. Making a car run dead on is not near as difficult as it was years ago. I've left the same dial in on my bracket car for several weeks. Catching someone using a delay box is just a matter having eyes watching. My advise is, if you think someone is cheating pay attention and put up the protest money and have them tore down.

Tom Flowers
3860 E/SA

bigshow2966 01-24-2024 09:20 PM
Re: Ways to check on the use of illegal devices
 
Seeing when someone lets go of the button is easy. Have 1 reverse light wired to the button.

Of course, it they bottom bulb and only have .03-.10 delay in you'd never see it.

Anybody else remember the infamous 'Willy Raymond' thread? It created a big stir, and was all crap.

1320racer 01-25-2024 09:23 AM
Re: Ways to check on the use of illegal devices
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Don Kennedy (Post 692104)
The thought occured to me that just maybe there are many ways to check on racers who are using illegal devises to have a advantge of other racers I will start first have a camera Zoom into the drivers compartment showing the tree plus the driver to see when the release the button. Some devices available are wireless traction control, although this is not yet refined ,a way to trip the beams at the finish line , a tree reader ,a wireless delay box ,plus by the way lock up convertors are Being used which are illegal, a remote way from the line by a crew man to release the trans brake via a camera looking at the tree .a person at the finish line to trip the beams with a very simple device similar to your garage door opener. any other suggestions ??
Yes, stop worrying about what you think your competitors might be doing and focus on your program and what you need to improve to be more competitive. Unless your car can run dead on every pass, you can put together .015 packages at will and close up the stripe to .003 everytime, you need to focus on improving your program!

That said, IF a tree reader exists, the racer(s) using it is competing in Big $ bracket racing not stock/super stock.

Don Kennedy 01-25-2024 10:17 AM
Re: Ways to check on the use of illegal devices
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1320racer (Post 692165)
Yes, stop worrying about what you think your competitors might be doing and focus on your program and what you need to improve to be more competitive. Unless your car can run dead on every pass, you can put together .015 packages at will and close up the stripe to .003 everytime, you need to focus on improving your program!

That said, IF a tree reader exists, the racer(s) using it is competing in Big $ bracket racing not stock/super stock.
I am not worrying one second about what the competitors are doing never have never will just making a comment on the possiblity that might exists out in racing as a whole the tought occued to me especially at the big money races

1320racer 01-25-2024 11:54 AM
Re: Ways to check on the use of illegal devices
 
Don, do you compete at BIG $ bracket races? We do and it's a non concern.

Don Kennedy 01-25-2024 12:14 PM
Re: Ways to check on the use of illegal devices
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1320racer (Post 692170)
Don, do you compete at BIG $ bracket races? We do and it's a non concern.
I do not attend big$ bracket races but if i did I would make darn sure that my devices that are being used work ok as there is no rules at the races concerning devices ? or is there ?:confused:

1320racer 01-25-2024 12:20 PM
Re: Ways to check on the use of illegal devices
 
Don, we do compete at the BIG $ bracket races, both locally and the Flings and I can tell you without doubt that no one that competes at these events cares if/what illegal devices maybe in use by some racers and the proof is that these races are typically sold out in less than 3 minutes! So all this talk about tree readers, down track position indicators, matty box, etc. is nothing but internet forum noise largely posted by racers like yourself that don't compete at these races. That said, running dead on, cutting .00x lights and taking a few thousands stripe is commonplace and no big deal in the year 2024.

That said, I do believe that ARC modules are being used by some with the Grid.

David Lee 01-25-2024 02:09 PM
Re: Ways to check on the use of illegal devices
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1320racer (Post 692165)
Yes, stop worrying about what you think your competitors might be doing and focus on your program and what you need to improve to be more competitive. Unless your car can run dead on every pass, you can put together .015 packages at will and close up the stripe to .003 everytime, you need to focus on improving your program!

That said, IF a tree reader exists, the racer(s) using it is competing in Big $ bracket racing not stock/super stock.

do you really try be be a real horrible person. Go back into you hole

i have known Don for over 20 years. he is a honorable person and if he asked for help most of us would drop what we are doing and rush to help


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