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Jason Shepard 04-07-2024 11:47 AM

Re: Randy Mans DQ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MoJo Risen (Post 695787)
I'm shocked that the reduction of tech in stock has lead to these major rule infringements. Guess we won't see this car race for 10,000 at Indy this year. Congratulations. Replacing a steel roof with carbon fiber/plastic?
This is what Stock eliminator has become?

This car isnt "allowed" in the 10k race per the rules stated for that race.

Angelo DiTocco 04-07-2024 11:52 AM

Re: Randy Mans DQ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MoJo Risen (Post 695787)
I'm shocked that the reduction of tech in stock has lead to these major rule infringements. Guess we won't see this car race for 10,000 at Indy this year. Congratulations. Replacing a steel roof with carbon fiber/plastic?
This is what Stock eliminator has become?


The roof panels on this generation hard-top (1994-2002) Firebirds and Camaros are plastic / fiberglass from the factory and are glued on with an adhesive - they are not steel and never were - be careful with the assumptions..... They are also not easy to replace.
That can happen to anybody, can we just hope that the guy's car is ok?

I don't know if any aftermarket companies are making a repro but I do know they are not available from the factory nor have they been for a very long time. I tried finding one a few years ago and had no luck. The only option is to get one from a donor car and to get it off you have to use fishing line or piano wire, work it under the panel, and slice through the adhesive. It can't be peeled off with a putty knife.

SSDiv6 04-07-2024 12:31 PM

Re: Randy Mans DQ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Angelo DiTocco (Post 695796)
The roof panels on this generation hard-top (1994-2002) Firebirds and Camaros are plastic / fiberglass from the factory and are glued on with an adhesive - they are not steel and never were - be careful with the assumptions..... They are also not easy to replace.
That can happen to anybody, can we just hope that the guy's car is ok?

I don't know if any aftermarket companies are making a repro but I do now they are not available from the factory nor have they been for a very long time. I tried finding one a few years ago and had no luck. The only option is to get one from a donor car and to get it off you have to use fishing line or piano wire, work it under the panel, and slice through the adhesive. It can't be peeled off with a putty knife.

Angelo is correct.

Depending on the year, both the roof and sail panels are either thermoplastic or fiberglass and GM discontinued them years ago.
When you go to the wrecking yard and try to remove them, it is worse than removing a windshield and they warp or get damaged. The OEM factory pieces were also defective and would bubble due to an issue with the epoxy and materials.

The aftermarket replacements for both the roof and sail panels are either fiberglass or carbon fiber.

Bernie Cunningham 04-07-2024 12:33 PM

Re: Randy Mans DQ?
 
Angelo, I have a brand new one in the box along with all the components to switch from T-tops to solid roof.

Lenny5160_v2 04-07-2024 12:39 PM

Re: Randy Mans DQ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MoJo Risen (Post 695787)
Guess we won't see this car race for 10,000 at Indy this year.

Aside from the fact that this car wouldn’t be allowed in the Indy $10k race, they are planning to have this car on track next week in Vegas.

Angelo DiTocco 04-07-2024 12:45 PM

Re: Randy Mans DQ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bernie Cunningham (Post 695798)
Angelo, I have a brand new one in the box along with all the components to switch from T-tops to solid roof.

Load it up Bernie !

PM message me with your number and I'll give you a call

MoJo Risen 04-07-2024 01:03 PM

Re: Randy Mans DQ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott Dugdale (Post 695789)
Rumor on the street, only a certain group of folks can play in the sand box for the $10,000. Shake $ Bake, I might be rooting for some kind of Ford at the race.

TiPpY!!

If Robin Lawrence puts his car in the street version of 2013, just a switch of intake manifold, you'll see how dangerous a Naturally aspirated Coyote engine can be.

MoJo Risen 04-07-2024 01:12 PM

Re: Randy Mans DQ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SSDiv6 (Post 695797)
Angelo is correct.

Depending on the year, both the roof and sail panels are either thermoplastic or fiberglass and GM discontinued them years ago.
When you go to the wrecking yard and try to remove them, it is worse than removing a windshield and they warp or get damaged. The OEM factory pieces were also defective and would bubble due to an issue with the epoxy and materials.

The aftermarket replacements for both the roof and sail panels are either fiberglass or carbon fiber.


It's good to know NHRA Tech officials are still getting technical facts wrong. Consistency is good.

Scott Dugdale 04-07-2024 01:24 PM

Re: Randy Mans DQ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MoJo Risen (Post 695802)
If Robin Lawrence puts his car in the street version of 2013, just a switch of intake manifold, you'll see how dangerous a Naturally aspirated Coyote engine can be.

Sounds Good, always like watching more cars with a clutch pedal. Last time I checked the stats there is quite a few in the Midwest.

Not sure I seen a carburetor from the factory in 2013...

James Perrone 04-07-2024 01:28 PM

Re: Randy Mans DQ?
 
Thanks Angelo I thought the roofs were steel
Why the dq


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