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trode424 09-07-2024 04:11 PM

Re: Fine them and then make it legal. Wowwser
 
This is blatant cheating. Not gray area stuff. Building something to make it look different. Not sure how you are able to go to the next race and look at your competitors in the staging lane.

lstanford 09-07-2024 04:38 PM

Re: Fine them and then make it legal. Wowwser
 
I think this is covered in chapter two of the Jerry Eckman rule book. Look what cheating did for him. My only question, " How good can you feel about winning when you know you are cheating?". NHRA is not helping enforce the rules with a mickey mouse fine. Cheating racers should be barred from racing for a year. If they want the automobile manufacturers involved in these classes, then they are going to have to do a much better job of enforcing and policing the rules. If not, these classes are dead on arrival. Maybe just pump the motors for cubic inches and then let the racers do whatever they want with blowers and pulleys etc. Let's make it a real free for all. Maybe call it Factory Bar Fight.

L.Fite 09-07-2024 06:36 PM

Re: Fine them and then make it legal. Wowwser
 
Soo...
Was this the same infraction for all of the above mentioned cars?
Seems a lot of people making same "mistake"...
Any common denominators?

Asking for a friend...:cool:

reig3 09-07-2024 07:42 PM

Re: Fine them and then make it legal. Wowwser
 
Alex Laughlin has a post regarding that from Geoff Turk on Facebook. I tried to post it here, it's too long. This thread answers the "why is he posting this" thoughts.

Paul Precht 09-07-2024 08:41 PM

Re: Fine them and then make it legal. Wowwser
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by reig3 (Post 702553)
Alex Laughlin has a post regarding that from Geoff Turk on Facebook. I tried to post it here, it's too long. This thread answers the "why is he posting this" thoughts.

I read it here, it's the 8th post down.
https://www.forabodiesonly.com/mopar...t-indy.569029/

Mike Schwartz 09-07-2024 09:34 PM

Re: Fine them and then make it legal. Wowwser
 
Why was one participant disqualified, with loss of all points and a fine, while the others were allowed to make corrections and continue racing, were fined, but only lost 100 points?

Adger Smith 09-08-2024 12:20 PM

Re: Fine them and then make it legal. Wowwser
 
Same teeth! Yes.
A few years ago when I was Tech director for our Local college go cart race I ran into the similar alterations to the drive sprockets to pick up the gear ratio.

340Cuda 09-08-2024 12:21 PM

Re: Fine them and then make it legal. Wowwser
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Schwartz (Post 702560)
Why was one participant disqualified, with loss of all points and a fine, while the others were allowed to make corrections and continue racing, were fined, but only lost 100 points?

That is a very good question.

From what the Turks said the pulley had the right number of teeth but was a larger diameter. A pulley that they had fabricated. They said it also had a cover on it to make it harder to see.

No one has been able to tell me if the infraction was caught before racing, during or after.

It would seem like NHRA needs to modify the rules to set a diameter as well as a tooth count.

Bill

Frank Castros 09-08-2024 01:51 PM

Re: Fine them and then make it legal. Wowwser
 
The N.H.R.A. Technical Dept. has completely lost any integrity it may have had before this debacle and at the biggest event of the year no less.
Lonnie Grim must restore confidence in the process of enforcing the Rule book. It won't be easy.

1320racer 09-08-2024 03:24 PM

Re: Fine them and then make it legal. Wowwser
 
The rule book hasn't been enforced in decades!


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