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MR DERBY CITY 10-07-2024 05:22 PM

Re: ET with and without wheelie.
 
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Originally Posted by jimmyparker (Post 703781)
Back in the eighties I was running a SS/BA Corvette that did big wheelies and was told by most that l needed to calm it down some with limiters, etc. I tried several ways of keeping the front end on the ground but they all hurt the ET so I went back to letting it get pretty high and never looked back.

I would explain my theory but might get beat up by a physics major.

Gotta agree with Jimmy on this one …I have been told that during the wheelie it makes the converter work more efficiently …...1320 please do not reply to my post…..I have dealt with enough IDIOTS today and like many on CR I do not give 2 ****z about your opinion OR your (. ) car ……

1320racer 10-07-2024 05:29 PM

Re: ET with and without wheelie.
 
I don't give a shyt what you think of my opinion or car! You don't know better nor have better!:p

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Originally Posted by jimmyparker (Post 703791)
Bracket cars and superstock cars are two different animals, transmissions, converters, gear ratios, power curves, etc., etc.

BS, that's what you want to believe.

jimmyparker 10-07-2024 05:37 PM

Re: ET with and without wheelie.
 
Hard to have a meaningful discussion with 1320 around.

Pose a question to your fellow stock, superstock racers that run your class and get opinions from a bracket racer.

I agree with my Buddy Mike, just leave me and my posts alone.

Dan Bennett 10-07-2024 06:04 PM

Re: ET with and without wheelie.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MR DERBY CITY (Post 703792)
...1320 please do not reply to my post?..I have dealt with enough IDIOTS today and like many on CR I do not give 2 ****z about your opinion OR your (. ) car ??


I started the thread to try to scrape the knowledge of the people here who've been successful for years. In this case, to try and understand why something that shouldn't work actually seems necessary. It's very obvious that people have decided that through testing. Maybe the wrong section and we may never get a clear explanation, but pretty interesting still.

It looks like that guy is pretty invested in the topic, but I've not seen a single thing he typed, no doubt using a single finger. He is the only person in roughly 30 years of online conversations that I've ever blocked. I recommend that move highly. You know, separate the wheat from the chaff, the signal from the noise...

JGrossijr 10-07-2024 06:53 PM

Re: ET with and without wheelie.
 
No 2 cars are exactly the same so it's unlikely there is a "right" answer that fits every application. In my experience as long as you're not unloading the rear tires, it's not the wheelie that slows a car down, it's the landing. I have found that if I can smooth out the G-meter dip at touch down, without giving up any 60', the car goes faster. There are lots of different ways to approach that, including wheel stand height.

1320racer 10-07-2024 07:00 PM

Re: ET with and without wheelie.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan Bennett (Post 703795)
I started the thread...

You didn't start this thread!

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimmyparker (Post 703794)
Hard to have a meaningful discussion with 1320 around.

Pose a question to your fellow stock, superstock racers that run your class and get opinions from a bracket racer..

1. where did the OP say his question was regarding a S/SS car? Answer...he didn't and it doesn't matter!

2. This bracket racer knows far more than you!

3. My firebird has won more Wally's and more $ than anyone replying here! Now What part of the truth and the facts don't you like? :p

SS3860 10-07-2024 07:28 PM

Re: ET with and without wheelie.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JGrossijr (Post 703796)
No 2 cars are exactly the same so it's unlikely there is a "right" answer that fits every application. In my experience as long as you're not unloading the rear tires, it's not the wheelie that slows a car down, it's the landing. I have found that if I can smooth out the G-meter dip at touch down, without giving up any 60', the car goes faster. There are lots of different ways to approach that, including wheel stand height.

That's what I found also with my old bracket car, trying to control wheelstands with travel limiters, timing and weight. When I finally got a good set of front shocks from Randy Manns et's improved and consistency came around. When I bought my stocker, I didn't give the QA1 shocks a chance. Phone call to Fast Shocks before it ever hit the track.


Tom Flowers
E/SA 3860

1700camaro 10-07-2024 07:48 PM

Re: ET with and without wheelie.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by my69396 (Post 703741)
How much will a wheelie affect ET plus or nothi?

I'm replying to the OP & no one else. ;)

Our car is slightly quicker when set-up for a smaller the wheelie than a big one.

As for no wheelie our car is considerably slower.

Your results may vary.

Frank Castros 10-07-2024 08:31 PM

Re: ET with and without wheelie.
 
SS/AH cars don't wheelie too high, but A. Lincoln Morehead's Camaro reaches for the sky every pass and is bad fast. Every car is different, but I must say Calvert bars changed Stock Eliminator forever.

1320racer 10-07-2024 09:21 PM

Re: ET with and without wheelie.
 
clueless replies here from a few that think they know.


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