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Greg Reimer 7376 01-20-2009 09:12 PM

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John Halbig,Denville New Jersey about 1980-82-'61 Chevy Impala hardtop,250 horse 348,4 speed,O/S, went 13.05 or so with an early rear end. We used to talk by phone on his nickle from Joisey during that time when he was doing that car. I think he got it into the 12's at either Island Dragway or Englishtown.

Brandon Peterson 01-20-2009 09:36 PM

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I like Ed's gremlin...i think that is the coolest car... only seen it once in person in 07 at budds creek md.....that car is PIMP!!!!!!!!!!!!............side note..i also like the Dynamite duece 302 2brl. chevy II driven by Homer....the Shotgun Boogie 302 2brl. chevy II...curently driven by me....and the boot scoot and boogie....302 2brl...chevy II wagon 4 speed..formerly driven by Mr. Gil Carty himself....those are some screamin cars......Ed's car is also one of dads favs.... its is diff the coolest stocker ive ever seen....also like MB's volarie and Scott Macy's volarie....

bill dedman 01-20-2009 09:40 PM

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There was a guy named Everett Hatch from (Portland?) Oregon who ran a '56 Packard Clipper in D Gas with a Carribean twin four barrel manifold, and he and his car were featured in Hot Rod magazine back in the late '50s, because his car was very fast, for its class. I think it may have held the D Gas national record for an extended amount of time.

Additionally, there was some guy from Indianapolis who had a '56 Golden Hawk (the one with the Packard 352 motor) who put a GMC-6:71 on it and ran A Gas Supercharged for awhile. A buddy of mine almost bought that car in about 1959. Can't remember his name, but it was something funny like "Casey Jones," or such.

Larry Hill 01-20-2009 11:18 PM

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My old truck. Dialed two seconds under at Indy points race and broke out, was not very good looking but plenty fast.

larry asa 01-21-2009 12:02 AM

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Well sense we are in the way-back machine how bout this. I got out an old albumn.a 1966 chevell station wagon Southerland ,godwin & simmons. OR 1969 Olds super stock O stick Buddy Ingersoll.. fast Jack mullins ss/u sitck or how bout Sunny Ray SS/KA pontiac. Larry

danny waters sr 01-21-2009 08:53 AM

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Anybody remember Hue-Baby Waters on the NC east coast,. I was very young back then but remember it as being 56 or 57 oldsmobile. The back rims were painted half black and other half white. He ran back in the day when Mr Ed,Bobby Warren,Garley Daniels, Troy Dennis, Sox @ Martin and many other legends. By the way he was no kin to me that i know of .Sure would love to see some more old pictures from Kinston Drag Strip. If you go on kdsmotorsports.com and scroll down to bottom you can click on some really nice old old photos taken there .Most of these photos were taken by the lata Wayne Greenway. He was the track announcer for as long as i can remember ,even as i began racing and then my son also.One of the best in the business.. Take a look and enjoy.

Michael Barsky 01-21-2009 09:43 AM

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Maybe I'm biased but how about Howard Barsky's 1957 two door station wagon with 283 cubic inches and dual wcfb carbs running 11 teens in SS/NA going through the traps at 9300 rpm

david ring 01-21-2009 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Wade_Owens (Post 101381)
Also, what about the 4 cylinder Pontiac Tempest with a Q-jet?

Any body ever try or own one of these?

Wade

I don't know about a Q-jet, but one time Phil Montief (sp) was looking at the super duty blocks on Al Ackerman's car and my car and said his first race car was a four-cylinder tempest.

I like that tubo 4 cylinder Mustangs of Mark Yacavone, Tom Gould's Corvair, that six cylinder Chevy II from down south, the four cylinder red S-10 that the guy from Miss. ran, the slant six early 80 mopar from Kansas, ed fernandez' gremlin, Bob Salemi's jeep truck, and of course Billy Nees' Novas-just about anything with less than 8 cylinders than's not a v-6, although some of them are ok too.

Mike Carr 01-21-2009 12:22 PM

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Here are a few that I can think off in recent times, that haven't been mentioned already.

Billy Nees built a pair of 110 cid 4 cyl '85 Sunbirds that I raced, a FI version for HF/SA (Mark Yac raced this car before I was given it), and a turbo version for AF/S. Greg Philley's W/SA 140 Mustang. Billy's own pair of 230 I-6 Novas (two of only three in the country? Greg Fulk has the other). Billy's own 307 4 door R/SA Nova. My current car, bought from Tom Kasch, '92 Olds Toronoado 231/170 for FF/SA (the Stephenson family from IL have another ex-Kasch Olds, a '91 Delta 231). Bob Shaw has had a few since I've been racing, an early 80's turbo Buick V/SA that he raced at the '01 Class Nat'ls, his '85 El Camino V/SA, his turbo Capri 140 (throttle body) U/SA, An '86 Caprice V/SA and his current FI Cadilac U/SA Mark Walton's early 80's Mustang turbo stick (FI combo, was I/FI, now P/S), Yac's early 80's Turbo Stang stick U/S, there is a guy from northeast Canada Vince Hazel, V/S mid 80's Camaro V6. ANother car I had the chance to drive a few times, Cap't Jack McCarthy's U/SA '60 Chevy Kingswood wagon...4470 pounds, 283. I could go on and on, if I thought about it more. I love the odd, one-off and rare combinations...most of which are the older cars. Anyone happen to catch, at Barrett-Jackson, that '65 Ford Galaxie R-code 427/425 that went for over $100k? Wonder what that would fit? I would guess around SS/GA? Bob Hammel a few years back in Div 1 raced a '67 Galaxie, I think it was a 427, in SS/GA. Oops, there's another one. At the Dutch in '06, a genteman had a mid 60's big Ford with a 390 or 352 for M/S, light blue, I forget his name.

Owen S Quirion 01-21-2009 01:24 PM

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Here is my odd ball 1985 Grand Am V6

Wade_Owens 01-21-2009 01:40 PM

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Did anybody ever run a front wheel drive Olds Toronado in stock?

Can you use a mechanical stack injector on a SS 283 FI 57 Chevy? I'm sure the total opening size would have to be altered to regulate it to factory cfm's.

What does Abazzia run on his stocker Corvette?

Wade

Mike Taylor 3601 01-21-2009 02:41 PM

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Going back to Tarrances Chevy II,Steve told me he thought he probaly was only person to get HP'ed from a combo race.Music City was running combo heads up off index in late 80's they were dominating it the and 194 got HP'ed.( hit hard) some you Music City guys may have to correct me on any mistakes in this story don't remember all details.
Mike Taylor 3601

david ring 01-21-2009 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Wade_Owens (Post 101645)
Did anybody ever run a front wheel drive Olds Toronado in stock?

Can you use a mechanical stack injector on a SS 283 FI 57 Chevy? I'm sure the total opening size would have to be altered to regulate it to factory cfm's.

What does Abazzia run on his stocker Corvette?

Wade

Before they sold it, they had mechanical fuel injection on it.

Tom Goldman 01-21-2009 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael Barsky (Post 101598)
Maybe I'm biased but how about Howard Barsky's 1957 two door station wagon with 283 cubic inches and dual wcfb carbs running 11 teens in SS/NA going through the traps at 9300 rpm

You aren't biased Mike. Standing at the finishline and listening to Howards car come by is like seeing and hearing the great old G/MP cars like Fat Fred Hartman, Hildebrandt and Siriani,FJ. .......uH OH , I'm getting misty eyed. ........Tom

joe huestis 01-21-2009 06:23 PM

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Two of the oddest combos I've seen would have to be the U/SA AMC Matador Sta. Wgn. from Cal. It had a 304 2V combination and was on this website for sale last year.
The other would have to be Bob Shaw's 4dr Cadillac Seville that holds the T/SA record now I believe.
Joe Huestis
ANNIE'S SONG L/SA 9724

rick winchester 01-21-2009 06:28 PM

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I ran a 4cyl. 63 Chevy II in Z/sa . It wasnt very quick but it was the only one around. Dave Danish cut his hand on a rust hole in the fender at the first points meet I ever entered. I think the only reason he let me race at all was because he had never seen one .The engine had the same specs. as a 194 cu. 6 cyl except it was only 151 cu...

CycloneFE 01-21-2009 10:29 PM

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How about Ellis Buth in W/S with a Pinto Wagon. One of these days he may need a new pair of slicks. NHRA record holder 15.83. His brother Marty isn't much of a slouch with the "Half a V-8" Turbo T-Bird. Marty usually qualifies near the top of the field.

Joe Toller 01-21-2009 10:42 PM

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I'd give a vote to anything with 4 doors, or an inline 6.

I just sold a 63 Tempest with a 4cyl/Q-jet, was going to try racing it but thought better of it when I priced transaxle components...

Mark Poole 01-21-2009 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Wade_Owens (Post 101645)
Did anybody ever run a front wheel drive Olds Toronado in stock?

Can you use a mechanical stack injector on a SS 283 FI 57 Chevy? I'm sure the total opening size would have to be altered to regulate it to factory cfm's.

What does Abazzia run on his stocker Corvette?

Wade

Hey Wade, A fellow named Melvin Harris from Oklahoma ran a V8 Toronado in AF/SA. The last time I saw it was 2002. Mark

Ed Fernandez 01-21-2009 10:54 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Wade_Owens (Post 101645)
Did anybody ever run a front wheel drive Olds Toronado in stock?

Can you use a mechanical stack injector on a SS 283 FI 57 Chevy? I'm sure the total opening size would have to be altered to regulate it to factory cfm's.

What does Abazzia run on his stocker Corvette?

Wade

Tony Massari in Div 1 of Yoo Hoo Too Jr Stock fame ran a FWD Buick Riviera turbo car.He unfortunatly
hit the wall at the top end a few years ago at the Dutch.The car was a total.He got another one and proceeded to melt a few pistons due to an over active screw driver twist on the boost.He is now retired.

Ed F.

impstocker 01-22-2009 08:04 AM

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I think I have the only Full Size stickshift Big Block Chevrolet stocker running. I run I/S heavy (4095 lbs) H/S natural with a 396/325 HP - gone 11.70's in I/S

Only one busted gear set in over 90 passes! (they were "street gears" too, have Pro gears now!)

Hope to be racing this year- I know there is more with this combo-

Hey Joe ! Living in South Carolina - will call.

Will Lamprecht #1427 1968 Impala

Sean Haning 01-22-2009 12:18 PM

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I think Jim Wahl with his Cimarron or Spirit is two unusual combos for the sport but great race cars none the less, or Bill Howell and his Dodge minivan. Of course being a turbo Dodge guy, I may be slightly bias.:D

Mike Carr 01-22-2009 12:45 PM

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Double post...dumbass forgot how to post pics...

Mike Carr 01-22-2009 12:53 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Wade_Owens (Post 101645)
Did anybody ever run a front wheel drive Olds Toronado in stock?

Wade


Wade, here is my car that I bought from Tom Kasch.

2006 Hagerstown MD S/SS combo
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The next two are from the 2006 Dutch Classic
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Sean Haning 01-23-2009 11:49 AM

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:eek: That thing must be fast to be heads up with Bucky!;)

Mike Carr 01-23-2009 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Sean Haning (Post 102131)
:eek: That thing must be fast to be heads up with Bucky!;)

Oh hell yeah...it has the rare 9.0 liter four-OHC four valve twin turbo ''Oldsrock'' motor.

I had the better light by .017, and I think I led by about two inches in that race. Bucky was across the finish line before I was at the 1/8 mile. I petitioned to be able to compete in the Hemi Shootout that weekend, but my pleas fell on deaf ears.

Sean Haning 01-23-2009 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike Carr (Post 102137)
Oh hell yeah...it has the rare 9.0 liter four-OHC four valve twin turbo ''Oldsrock'' motor.

I had the better light by .017, and I think I led by about two inches in that race. Bucky was across the finish line before I was at the 1/8 mile. I petitioned to be able to compete in the Hemi Shootout that weekend, but my pleas fell on deaf ears.

LOL! As long as he hadn't reached his pit space yet, then there is no harm done. Neat car for sure though.

Karl Reid 01-23-2009 07:46 PM

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Mark Yac--How do you know so much about NW drag racers i.e., John Bartlett? -- How about Ted Rhode, Paul V. Smith, Sanderson Bros. etc??

Karl Reid 01-23-2009 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Wade_Owens (Post 101101)
What is one of the most intrigueing combos you've ever seen someone run as a class car? Give us some details on why you felt this way, maybe how fast it ran or some pics? Its really cold and we need something to talk about instead of taxes and the economy.

Wade O

Back in the day Pruitt, Reid & Heinson ran a 1963 Ford Custom 300 2door sedan in SS/X - The car was powered by a 164hp 260 2v and ran low 14's at 96 mph --on an index 14.70--

danny waters sr 01-23-2009 07:54 PM

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I have a 66 chevy II 4-door 283 hp stocker.I know there are pics of it some were .Got MOSER ENGINEERING on the side of it. Lots of fun to drive. More people stop by to look at it than they do my son's dragster..

Rory McNeil 01-23-2009 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Karl Reid (Post 102226)
Back in the day Pruitt, Reid & Heinson ran a 1963 Ford Custom 300 2door sedan in SS/X - The car was powered by a 164hp 260 2v and ran low 14's at 96 mph --on an index 14.70--

I don`t remember THAT car, but Jerry Pruitt`s 64 Custom 2 door sedan that ran SS/N with a 352 4 speed was a regular competitor in Div.6 for years. He later put the running gear from the big car into a 83 or 84 Mustang and ran in GT/J for a few years. I believe that the Mustang failed Tech at a points race a number of years ago, due to having a flexible cable steering shaft (stock early Pinto stuff), and he took the car home and it has sat ever since.I have heard that the Mustang is still in his possesion.

Rory McNeil 01-23-2009 08:18 PM

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A few other oddbballs" from Div. 6 were Dave Wrens D/MC Plymouth Arrow, Butch Balls 9 second AA/MC turbo Pinto, Jim Caughlins SS/EC Pinto, and his current SS/FS 96 Ford Escort, and Larry Dowty`s FWD Super Stock GS 90 Pontiac Grand Am. The Davidson family ran a 70 or 71 Olds Vista Cruiser wagon in both Stock & S/S, Phil Marvetz ran a slant 6 Duster for a short time, and Jim Mantles 6 cyl AMC Pacer wagon is likely as odd as it can possibly be! It almost makes Rick Greens W/SA Pinto seem "mainstream"!

X-TECH MAN 01-23-2009 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by danny waters sr (Post 102227)
More people stop by to look at it than they do my son's dragster..

Come on Danny......Why would anyone want to see an "engine on a stick" ? LOL Door cars are way more cool.

Mark Yacavone 01-23-2009 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Karl Reid (Post 102223)
Mark Yac--How do you know so much about NW drag racers i.e., John Bartlett? -- How about Ted Rhode, Paul V. Smith, Sanderson Bros. etc??

From the magazine articles.Remember when they used to write about class cars.

Now you've got me into my V/Stock collection:
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greg fulk 01-23-2009 10:38 PM

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Ok how about a 69 4-door nova witha 230 inline 6? it's a bad *** IHRA W/SA car & a Ok NHRA V/SA car LOL https://www.autoimagery.com/store/cg...0729-10213.jpg

Bench Racer 01-24-2009 12:07 AM

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1958 Chevy Yeoman 283 2bbl automatic IHRA superstock J/Automatic. Cool and odd! Don Jackson

bill dedman 01-24-2009 01:00 AM

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Mark; thanks for those great Old Olds shots, and whose Stude is/was that?

Thanks for any info...

Bill

Mark Yacavone 01-24-2009 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by bill dedman (Post 102284)
atk; thanks for those great Old Olds shots, and whose Stude is/was that?

Thanks for any info...

Bill


Ted Harbit and Bill Ersham

bill dedman 01-24-2009 03:19 AM

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Thanks, Mark.

bill dedman 01-24-2009 03:22 AM

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I don't think anyone's mentioned the two Twin H-Power, dual-carbureted, early-fifties Hudson Hornets of Jack Clifford, one race car, one tow car; BOTH Class winners at Indy one year around 1966.... can't remember exactly when it was.

I don't remember anyone else ever winning class with their race car AND their tow car, at the same race.... much less, at INDY!


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