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442OLDS 10-18-2009 01:35 PM

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Looks like he lost,so it all comes down to Noble or Las Vegas.

Dusty Lowell 10-18-2009 01:41 PM

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yes you are correct, Edmond will now have 643pts to 653pts for A.Fetch, Edmond will have to make it to 4th round at either Noble or Vegas to win the Championship, now theres some pressure for ya!!!

442OLDS 10-18-2009 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Dusty Lowell (Post 146691)
yes you are correct, Edmond will now have 643pts to 653pts for A.Fetch, Edmond will have to make it to 4th round at either Noble or Vegas to win the Championship, now theres some pressure for ya!!!

Why don't you get a ride for Vegas and Pomona.Can't you win it too?

Dusty Lowell 10-18-2009 01:47 PM

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If i could find a ride i would fly out there most definately, i have asked around but havnt found anything yet. You know anybody looking?

442OLDS 10-18-2009 01:51 PM

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I drove one of Mike Loge's vehicles at Vegas a few years back.Maybe he has something for rent?

Ed Fernandez 10-18-2009 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by 442OLDS (Post 146675)
I'm not a statistician,but I figure Edmond will take over the points lead with a win in his next round (3rd).He is working off of a 40 point race.This is definately a battle.A few years ago,you only got the bonus points in your home division,but that has now changed.

I don't think so.He gets 10 more point which leave him 11 points behind Anthony.That means he is now trying to replace a 50 point race.4th rd gets him 61 pts,a tie.Don't know who wins the tie breaker.

Mark Yacavone 10-18-2009 03:11 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Fernandez (Post 146705)
I don't think so.He gets 10 more point which leave him 11 points behind Anthony.That means he is now trying to replace a 50 point race.4th rd gets him 61 pts,a tie.Don't know who wins the tie breaker.

The person with more actual rounds won, like what happened with Tibor and Wilkes in '06


* Unusual circumstance. You'd have to win a race with less than 64 cars .Probably won't apply here.
They'll have to dust off the Top Secret NHRA Manifesto and look it up.

Dusty Lowell 10-18-2009 03:40 PM

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this race had less then 64 cars so if Edmond had won 3rd round that would give him 62 points not 61. But seeings he didnt now he is 10 points behind by getting 51pts. He added 11 to his national points by throwing out that 40. Now at the next race if he goes to 4th round he betters a 50point race with atleast a 61. understand now. No tie possible. edit: unless there is 129 or more cars at one of those divisionals, then 4th round loss would be 60 and a possible tiebreaker.

442OLDS 10-18-2009 03:59 PM

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They do not run more than a 128 car field at a Divisional.I was racing at Vegas in 03 and qualified #129 driving a fuel injected truck.I did get to race as an alternate,but had I won any rounds,the points would not have counted since alternates can not earn points.Those were the rules back then,and I think they are the same.

GarysZ24 10-18-2009 05:13 PM

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You caught me 442Olds guy, before I could make my correction; I had posted in here about Kevin Helms being within striking reach of catching both Anthony & Edmond, but I digress that I overlooked that he was a 1st rd ru at the Silver Dollar divisional that started yesterday, but is concluding today. He had a good opportunity, but now only has one more race to claim, and too much of a deficit to reach them...however with a good showing at the Noble race, he can make his way into the top five...that is provided Dustan Lowell doesn't make his way out west to partake in the last two national races, because he's in a better position than Kevin was...his 555 points, and only having been to 3nats this year, means that by just getting appearance points for the first round at both 'Vegas & Pomona, Dustan can vault to 3rd, and be within a few round wins of both Anthony & Edmond. However, living in NH., that's an enormously long tow to go to both of those races, but if he can do it, then my money would be on him. Adam Davis could've helped his cause but a 2nd rd loss this weekend may have done him in as well, and Jody Lang only has one more race to claim, so Dustan is the only one who could possibly rain on the parade of Mr's Anthony & Edmond? However with Florida being the furthest from home he's traveled this year, I think it's going to be either Anthony, or Edmond...may the best man win!!!

442OLDS 10-18-2009 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by GarysZ24 (Post 146729)
With all of these threads talking about Anthony and Edmond, I digress that even I overlooked a very lucrative prospect for the world title in Stock, and I expect to read of him being in Noble, and expect to see him in 'Vegas next month...that being "Helms...Kevin Helms"! He is lurking in easy reach of both of them (his current 527 points, has him only 126pts behind Anthony, and just 105 behind Edmond). Kevin travels well, and I expect him to be at both races, so those above him (currently) best be looking in their rearview mirrors, because Kevin's making a top end charge and the prize is easily within his reach!!!


Kevin Helms had a first round loss today that I believe eliminated him from contention.

Stevie Ficacci 10-18-2009 06:34 PM

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Someone out west needs to give Dusty a ride in those last two races. Hes been driving the wheels off his duster this year. Give a young guy a shot!!

Ed Fernandez 10-18-2009 06:52 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dusty Lowell (Post 146710)
this race had less then 64 cars so if Edmond had won 3rd round that would give him 62 points not 61. But seeings he didnt now he is 10 points behind by getting 51pts. He added 11 to his national points by throwing out that 40. Now at the next race if he goes to 4th round he betters a 50point race with atleast a 61. understand now. No tie possible. edit: unless there is 129 or more cars at one of those divisionals, then 4th round loss would be 60 and a possible tiebreaker.

Thanks for the correction Dusty.Hopefully someone will give you a ride to take a shot at improving you're position.
Wouldn't it be funny if you had to race Richardson 3rd rd.

Am I missing something or is the points system screwed up to give extra points for a race with less cars?

GarysZ24 10-18-2009 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Stevie Ficacci (Post 146740)
Someone out west needs to give Dusty a ride in those last two races. Hes been driving the wheels off his duster this year. Give a young guy a shot!!

I agree with you Stevie, like I said in a corrected post a couple ahead of yours, I like knowing that just by appearing at the 1st rd of those last two national events, Dusty will be closing in fast on both Anthony and Edmond, and with as few as 3-4 rnd wins (provided neither of them improve anymore), he can vault past both, and cruise to the world championship!!! I wish you luck Dusty, because that would be a bummer if you couldn't get out there and get those 60 appearance points (at a minimum) to help your championship seeking cause!!!

LittleBubba 10-18-2009 08:01 PM

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i would love to see dusty win it as well but correct me if im wrong... if he has shown up to three national events then that would throw away his "show up points" therefore he would have to better whatever his worse two nationals were.. i thought it was your best three out of your first five nationals

Ed Fernandez 10-18-2009 08:31 PM

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Driver: Dustan Lowell
Class/Registration: STK/1773
Hometown: Kensington, NH
Points Sum Type Event Code And Location Date
40 0 OD 23-Orlando, FL 03/08/2009
61 61 NA GF1-Gainesville, FL 03/15/2009
83 144 HD 12-Reading, PA 05/24/2009
40 184 NA EJ1-Englishtown, NJ 06/14/2009
30 184 HD 13-Atco, NJ 06/21/2009
50 234 HD 14-West Lebanon, NY 07/05/2009
40 234 OD 35-Columbus, OH 07/26/2009
61 295 NA RP1-Reading, PA 08/23/2009
61 356 HD 15-Rising Sun, MD 08/30/2009
105 461 HD 16-Englishtown, NJ 09/13/2009
94 555 HD 17-Atco, NJ 10/04/2009
555 Events Attended/Counted: 11/8

Dusty would have to win Vegas AND Pomona to get the championship by 1 point.Like the '86 Mets
Ya gotta believe.

Stevie Ficacci 10-19-2009 09:55 AM

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his last 2 races were a win and a runner-up against some of the best racers in the country. Winning 2 more are not out of the question.

Dusty Lowell 10-19-2009 10:22 AM

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yea Stevie load up that fast G/Stick Camaro you got there and lets go for a road trip!!! I bet we could set the record at the Vegas Divisional too!

Donald Sabin 10-19-2009 07:04 PM

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Anthony Fetch all the way.

GarysZ24 10-19-2009 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by LittleBubba (Post 146761)
i would love to see dusty win it as well but correct me if im wrong... if he has shown up to three national events then that would throw away his "show up points" therefore he would have to better whatever his worse two nationals were.. i thought it was your best three out of your first five nationals

Yeah, you got me on that one Little Bubba, he did use up his "show up points", so I guess he's going to have to get a ride out there, and do what Ed showed he needs to do in order to reach the top, but as Ed said, "you gotta believe"...I think it would be pretty cool if he can pull it off, but even if not...GREAT SEASON DUSTAN....WAY TO GO!!!

By the way Dusty, if you do make it out this way, and race the Divisional, then I'd give you a HIGH FIVE for your awesome season, but now you have to hope that there's a few (+) cancellations since Stock is at 132 entries...so much for the economic state of America (I guess those economist were correct, we are on the rebound)???

Ed Fernandez 10-19-2009 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Stevie Ficacci (Post 146829)
his last 2 races were a win and a runner-up against some of the best racers in the country. Winning 2 more are not out of the question.

I never said it was.I just stated a statistic.Hope he gets a shot at it.

Ryan Horensky 10-19-2009 09:29 PM

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I think all of us out here in D1 hope Dusty gets a shot out west! He's had a killer season and it would be nice to see him put the icing on the cake and if nothing less give it a shot! Gotta give credit where credit is due, also! Anthony Fetch is prob one of the best stock/footbrake drivers on the planet! He's def the man to beat this season! Congrats to both of you on incredible seasons! But you can never count out anyone named Richardson when the points are tallied up at the end of the season! This is a pretty tight race for the stock championship! Good luck to everyone!

442OLDS 10-19-2009 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Dusty Lowell (Post 146834)
yea Stevie load up that fast G/Stick Camaro you got there and lets go for a road trip!!! I bet we could set the record at the Vegas Divisional too!

Why don't you bring your F/SA and set the record?Its only a 10.69.I'm sure you could bomb that record.
Would you do it if NHRA gave 100 points to set a record?

Ed Fernandez 10-19-2009 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by 442OLDS (Post 146938)
Why don't you bring your F/SA and set the record?Its only a 10.69.I'm sure you could bomb that record.
Would you do it if NHRA gave 100 points to set a record?

The only thing setting the record would do is create more work to tear down and the chance of screwing something up on reassembly.
Maybe giving 20 pts. for a class record wouldn't be a bad thing.100 is a bit much I think.
132 car field makes 4th round a 60 pointer now.No free points for lower car count.What's with that?

Craig Couris 10-20-2009 06:28 AM

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I'll second that- it will be Fetch.

Schenck 10-20-2009 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by GarysZ24 (Post 146926)

By the way Dusty, if you do make it out this way, and race the Divisional, then I'd give you a HIGH FIVE for your awesome season, but now you have to hope that there's a few (+) cancellations since Stock is at 132 entries...so much for the economic state of America (I guess those economist were correct, we are on the rebound)???

Dusty doesn't need a cancelation, if he is within striking distance he gets a waiver.

Greg Schenck

Stevie Ficacci 10-21-2009 11:26 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 442OLDS (Post 146938)
Why don't you bring your F/SA and set the record?Its only a 10.69.I'm sure you could bomb that record.
Would you do it if NHRA gave 100 points to set a record?

dusty's car is outta commission with engine problems.

Schenck 10-21-2009 03:55 PM

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Somebody out west has to have an extra car. I know if he was coming down south, the country dog could hook him up.

Greg

ps Edmond might take care of business at Noble.

GarysZ24 10-21-2009 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Schenck (Post 147102)
Dusty doesn't need a cancelation, if he is within striking distance he gets a waiver.

Greg Schenck

Thanks for that correction Greg....well then Dusty, I hope you get a ride out here, so I'll have a chance to read about you in 'Vegas next weekend, because I'll certainly be rooting for you!!!

442OLDS 10-21-2009 11:28 PM

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I think this was discussed in a past thread,but if you flew into the Las Vegas Airport and wanted to try and rent a car to race,what vehicle would be the best to try and get that might come close or under the index?
It would be a longshot,but as Ed Fernandez said....You gotta believe!

Dusty Lowell 10-25-2009 12:29 PM

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Edmond Richardson takes over the points lead by advancing to the 4th round at Noble, now he has a bye into the 5th round. Good job both Anthony and Edmond on a great year and a nail-biter at the end!!

Tony Janes 10-25-2009 01:49 PM

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It is over Edmond is the stock world champ.

GarysZ24 10-25-2009 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Tony Janes (Post 147825)
It is over Edmond is the stock world champ.

I agree with you Tony, because according to my math, Dusty would've had to win both national events to earn the 210 points available from them. However, he'd be erasing 101 points from his 40pt E'town race, and his 61pt Reading race. If Edmond rec'd those incremental rnd. points he's now at 665, and the closest Dusty's net total would be is 664. There are some other guys out there in the mid-400's who have only run 3nats, and 5divs, but they would've needed to be at Noble, and neither of them showed up (plus Tim Mosbek). Bottom Line:

CONGRATULATIONS "EDMOND RICHARDSON JR." THE 2009 STOCK ELIMINATOR WORLD CHAMP!!!


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