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Frank Ham and his "Glass Slipper". He had a Super Stock Corvette later on, not sure if it was the same car.

http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/w...yofimg8612.jpg

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OK.......

I found an old pic of the "GO ARMY" 55 Chevy taken in the mid to late 70's at YORK dragway by my friend Bill Truby.

I was told that the driver was non other than "FRANKLIN" HAMM. (not the same frank ham that drove the stocker).
I believe I verified the car number in an old "entry list".

I could be wrong... i'm just adding to the story.

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r...5yorktruby.jpg

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Sound right to me, the car has a division 4 number.

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Someone told me to check this out. I don't mean to just drag up old threads, but it is cool to see.
I am the frank ham (also franklin hamm) that ran the Go Army teams and later the Glass Slipper stock & SS Vets. The Army team actually first ran two new (74) Dodges and then changed over to the old classic chevys (there was a 69 chevelle wagon on the team with the 55).
I was actually a Capt then, fresh back from a tour as a Combat Engineer Company Commander in Vietnam.
When other officers were out playing golf, I was building and racing drag cars...for over 20 years. It was a pretty good joint career.

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Welcome to the forum,, Frank. Sounds like you raced quite a bit after your service(thanks for that) was done. If you have any photos from those days,, you may want to post them in the nostalgia section, like many of us have. Its always great to check out what pics people have been sitting on all these years. Take care and thanks for chiming in.
Danny Durham

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There is a way to fix some of the dumping in Stock Eliminator, take out all the clocks execpt starting to finishing line. No reaction, 60', 330', 1000' times. Make it back like it was in the 70's.
Another part is all the professionals in the racing industry, I don't what to take jobs away from them but I (this is just personal) enjoy working on my own efforts. I think I'm one of the few who still does their dyno work at the track making passes rather then an engine builder giving them a new improved bullet. I'm not fast, but I can say that I enjoy what I do and how I do it.

Casey Miles
248H "F" NHRA Stock!

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Casey, you made some great points, but too late to turn back...what's done is done!

Sadly, Stock Eliminator was once considered an "entry-level" thing...a place to
learn "fine-tuning" with a production/showroom vehicle with mostly STOCK parts and
keep it affordable...

A stepping-stone to bigger things down the road...(higher classes).

Not anymore!

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Oh really?

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Ok Billy...you're the EXCEPTION to the rule...LOL!!! (BTW, I like what you've done
so far with that piece...)

But you know what I meant...

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Ya know, it's a mind set kinda thing. If you tell people that they need a $125K car to compete then why should they try? Instead of telling people what they can't do, why not show them what they CAN do.

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Excellent post Billy. I like the way you think. I think you found the main reason we are lacking in young people. They seem to think you need 100k plus cars and 30k engines.

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Totally agree

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Frank, good to have you on here...and THANK YOU for your service for our
country!

I saw you run at Indy in 1974 with the '55...

Think that York photo here...is '74 or '75...not a big deal...but here's what I
remember...

In '74 and '75...BOTH autos and sticks...ran TOGETHER...in SS/T and SS/U...
Starting in '76..and MAYBE running for a year or 2...they split 'em up...so there
was a SS/TA and SS/UA class for auto cars...and a SS/T and U...for sticks...
Around '78...they adjusted the weight breaks...so SS/T became SS/O...and "U"
became "P"...and so on for autos...

Willing to take a shot and say...it's York 1975...because that Class sticker on
windshield might be from Indy....think York ran a National Open...in June?

Maybe Frank remembers if he won class at Indy? I don't...

BTW...Jack Mullins was there (at Indy)...running SS/R?...with a '63 2-dr....the
"famous" wagon didn't arrive until a year or two later....

Yeah, I know..."useless" information....don't blame me!...it's those darn
investigative shows running on TV now....LOL!!!!!!

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Getting back to the thread...Casey...your ideas would be step in the right direction
IMHO!!!!

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Yeah I almost quit racing when NHRA made me put my shoe on !!!

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bullseye !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! on the clocks

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There probably is not a good argument that today's stock and superstock racing is not bracket racing. However for some reason it seams to be more fun. Maybe it's because there all more rules and there is a basis to compare one cars performance to another's
Bill Lamb

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Does'nt everybody build their own stuff still? That's where all the pride is! That's what made it great in the first place, individual effort! If you don't build it, you can never fully experience the feeling of victory. Winning is a lot of fun because it is tough to do, even in cars/engines built for you and/or being spoon fed. Winning in something that you personally built is the ultimate experience, and many of todays winners will never realize in a life time of racing! This is just my opinion, not trying to offend, I've never been accused of being "New School" LOL Congrats to all winners though, you were part of a winning effort even if you just drive, maintain, and transport the car.

Wade Mahaffey

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The guy with the most money always won and there wasn't any reason to go racing unless you had the same money to spend.

JimR

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kinda like today (for the most part)

.and if you're racing for money....well....got a news flash for ya!
myself,it's for fun (if I ever get the car done), cuz I already have a job.

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Also, something no one has mentioned, how about all the factory "ringer" cars that started appearing around what, '63? I'm sure Ma Mopar wasn't the only one building bogus cars to hit the records with.

As far as not being able to afford to build a new stocker, IF your ego can stand not being in a limelight class, you can still build a competitive stocker for not too much money.

My buddy Mike Jeffrey has the national record in V/SA with a car you could easily duplicate for less than $10K. He and the Bogner's travel around some and have a ball. That IS what racing is all about, right?

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X2 with a bullet!

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X a bunch more.

Without the WILL to do it, the money and whining shall not change your outcome.

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I like this guy! I would say even though he probably did not build this car, He does put forth a commendable effort toward his entry! Thumbs up to you Sir!

Wade Mahaffey

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Thanks Wade

Let me remove your doubt. I built MY car in my one car converted carport freezing through two winters!!!


Cheers

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Sorry, I thought it was a Drag-Pack Factory car. In that case....I must applaud the effort....and I am standing! Look for a Red and White 58 Corvette next year SS/LA with #1771 on it. Then come over and introduce your self...I wanna shake your hand!

Wade Mahaffey

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Peter is a nice guy and tough cookie - wheel chair or not

Richie says so

Ron