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I take the man at his word, although I still don't think it makes sense.

But if he wants to stop the black helicopter contingent, he needs to take the button out of the car. That tiny little button is a big *** spoon stirring the pot.

I find it hard to believe after letting off of the button on national tv he had no idea someone would notice.

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Remember there are people who are trying to win at all costs. It's interesting what you can do when using EXFO equipment testing dbm levels and that's 8 year old technology.

Pay 10K to anyone who knows what they are doing and you'll get what you want.

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If it were me. I'm sure that I would be asked to remove the button. A few years back after a series of good reaction times I witnessed a good racer remove a great portion of his interior at Rockingham when it was still NHRA. (nothing was found as he still was in the next round) Never saw him complain only saw him comply. Don't have no ax to grind with Jeggie but if there was no button there would be no discussion. It appears that the blinder rule is clear too. I watched that clip and would have liked to have taped it too.

I'm still waiting on the special glasses that show the gray area's in the rule book for the rest of use to be able to read.

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The problem here is simple. Jeggie, has a "special edition" west coast rule book.

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I'd like to see anyone who has a problem with that button being in the car do what was done to Peter,back when he was on a tear.He was joined on the starting line by people standing so close to the car they might as well have been in the passenger seat,looking for any movement on the first bulb.
Now he says it isn't functional and everything is ok in NHRA la la land.Button or no button,he's getting beat up pretty good so far.Maybe they should give him an "enhancement" ,for the good of the sport.

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you people are effin' nuts...

Who was that goof ball a few years back that had all the GPS electro whatever gizmo info he was going to share?

Jeggie has the button with NO WIRES attached to simulate letting go, but his foot is whats doing the work with a button on the pedal. It's simply an effort to simulate the style or manner that he's always driven with. But lets face it, he's a great racer, but he hasn't exactly been tearing up Stock eliminator. So for the conspiracy theorists.....

As for the blinder, I have no comment. Every friggin' car in the lanes has all kinds of bull**** hanging up to block the tree. Last I knew, this was a FULL TREE CLASS, as in watch all the lights come down and leave when you feel it's appropriate.

If you want to leave on the top or a pro tree, they have classes for that...

IMHO...

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conspiricy?????

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way to go dan !!!!!!!!!!!!!

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I'll take the man at his word.
I still consider it poor judgment on his part to do what he did. Esp. a person of his stature in our sport.
Sorry to say what I saw on T.V. didn't show a closeup to see if the wires were there or not....I guess I can put my Matty Box back in my car... in sight, if I don't hook it up. ;~)

The Blinder: No comment

From wikipedia:
Conspiracy (civil), an agreement between persons to deceive, mislead, or defraud others of their legal rights, or to gain an unfair advantage
Conspiracy (crime), an agreement between persons to break the law in the future, in some cases having committed an act to further that agreement
Conspiracy (political), the overthrow of a government

O.K. where is there really a conspiracy?

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Yes, conspiracy...what...you prefer it spelled incorrectly?

And Adger, I never thought you were the sort to own a Matty Box...perhaps a NOS bottle in the trunk without any plumbing would be a nice touch as well...it would be about as analogous...

Seriously, what was the UFO / GPS wacko guy name a few years ago? I can't remember...

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Dan, I think you're thinking of Top Fool...if I'm not mistaken, Sam had a "bounty" of 10 grand for proof of what he was trying to say was "out there". Myself and a few others out there also mentioned we'd match it....I'm pretty sure that's who you were thinking of.

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in the immortal words of Happy Harry... Bingo!!!

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LMAO Dan...
I figured as much...
Yes, I have owned one... It is now in use by one of my customers.
Helped set a record in a boat.... :~)
I just HAD to see what they were all about... you know my type... I've got to investigate... & check it out...

Too many years have gone by to remember the guy... I'm like you. know it, but it's lost in the gourd head....Sad thing is I'll wake up in the middle of the night to Pee and remember it and forget it by the morning. Does anyone else keep a note pad on the back of the toilet?
Robert it was a guy using that Top Fool name, but his real name got passed around....

BTW... I LOVE the dead horse being flogged... Cool!

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Hey Dan,
Good idea on the NOS bottle... or just the NOS plate under the carb.
Might be worth the hassle if you got paid contingency for it... Like a well known IHRA racer got paid for Mopar Valve covers on a Ford or another racer got paid for the parachute in the trunk...
I just might try something like that... Watch for my next DQ... :~)

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Groovy, I never knew the real name had been revealed. I must have missed that episode on here. My offer still stands regardless, and even still, who ****ing cares about if he has a button on the wheel or in his helmet, in a video camera, or even up his ***...if one knows how to bracket race and drives his own race, surprisingly, win lights happen. Check out the Scotty Richardson School and Luke Bogacki's tutorials, they don't revolve around if the other guy has something you don't, legal or not...

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No not at all, just wondering if it was a new word?

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This is not the frist that has used a dummy switch. Some guys got used to the button on the wheel so when they had to move to the peddle it didnt feel right. make good sence to me.
And as for the blinders there are a lot of guys using them.
I dont but I dont care eather. Thanks .....CW

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Blinders? Don't need no stinking cardboard. I've known guys that use their arms for blinders as well as helmet visors.

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You guys are too much. Do you think a guy like Jeg would knowingly cheat and let a camera in the car???
That button is removable, so that if he wants to switch the car over to SS he can hook the TB up. That is all that it is. He has been working on his driving technique since the car left the shop, and he is merely trying to find his groove.

We spent multiple conversations discussing the rules when we were building the car, because he was adamant about being legal, and so are we.

Just let it be.....how many times do you get to take a ride in a DP stocker? I thought it was neat to see a car I worked on national TV!!

Ben Holt

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Agree'd. Air time is air time. Maybe soon all us S/SS guys will have on board Jegs camera's with the little Jegs decal on the dash or front bars like the pro's.

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So the car also has a trans brake that is not hooled up? Explane the blocker that he clearly grabed and thru. I don't care if every car in the lanes has them they are not legal.

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No, it doesn't have a TB, they aren't legal in Stock, remember? But is it illegal to plan ahead in case he wanted to put a trans with a TB?
As far as the blinders, I have no idea because I didn't put them in. I put the button mount in. I only explain what I know about firsthand, apparently a concept lost on this thread

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Ben, it's a concept that's been lost on the internet. :)

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Dan ,The electronics guru was Mr Raymond . Top Fool was either his alter ego or butt buddy.

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Amen!

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Thanks Mark,
What a memory!
Now I won't have to be trying to remember Mr. Raymond...AKA. Top Fool..
I think it was back in 2006-2007 when he made is appearance/posts. I did a search and it wouldn't go back that far. The last post that commented about Top fool was made on 10- 22 -2007 by Robert Pare Racing

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Very cool in car camera...you are right Ben....I have an in car video camera in my car...I've had more friends/family watch it and get a better idea of what goes on for a driver in a drag car. Peeks their interest.

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Joe, your in car camera shot was very cool (even if it was you kicking my *** lol).

As for Jeggie; sometimes it would be nice if people saw the car in person before jumping to conclusions and bashing him. He is putting alot of effort in stock eliminator which I think is very cool. He's legit and a very talented racer who is working hard to win in stock and that will consistently win sooner than later. The hand motion in the video is just a "motion" for technique purposes....not a transbrake nor is it a hand activated two step.

I'm not asking you to give him a break because of who he is (like some people mentioned) but to give him a break because he is legit and works as hard at it as anybody I have seen.

Peter Biondo
Biondo Racing Products

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sneaky your taking all the fun outta this thread ,, see you at norwalk,,, u got 20k i can borrow lol , nice job last week brother

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Fine the switch is not hooked up explain to me how the non perminent blinder is legal. Or is it that if you are legit and work hard it is ok to cheat. You just cant be a also run and be lazy and cheat. As I see the rule it is peretty clear the blinder he grabs and throws in the video is NOT LEGAL. I did not have to be there to see it it was brodcast to the whole world to see.

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Pete....It was just a good race.....as far as I'm concerned if there was an NHRA SS Hall of Fame your name would be there....I remember watching you win Indy against Lincoln in Gunns car on ESPN... back then I was just getting into SS......Brian VanPopple sold me the camera...something to play around with during the downtime to try and get different shots.

I understand what Jeggie is doing....he's just simulating as if he had a transbrake in the car...keeps him sharp.

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letting off the brake with your foot at the same time you let off a button with your finger.......sounds like rubbing your belly while patting your head!

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That's what makes stick shift racers special :D

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Chris Bowman, are you aware that all of us stick guys have to do this every run?

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...unless you want to push the front runners the first 60 ft, which I'm sure has never happened. :D

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I understand what Jeggie is doing....he's just simulating as if he had a transbrake in the car...keeps him sharp

That's what I thought a practice tree was for....

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Novassdude,
As Fletcher said before, blinders should be banned altogether. It would certainly make for safer pits because there wouldn't be ss, stock, and comp guys driving around the pits with pieces of cardboard etc blocking their vision. So back to your above post and you using the word "cheat". Pretty harsh words. Let's put things in perspective here; you are acting as if Jeggie had a huge advantage on the run because he removed the blinder after launch. Well then again maybe that is what you think? Hmmm..... At any rate, I am sure he will have it "permanently attached" by next race. As for the slight harmless (non advantageous) oversight by not having it attached.... again, let's put things in perspective here.

Btw which nova do you drive?

Peter Biondo
SS 1136
Stock 1136

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This is what I find funny about this whole thread. We as a group stk and ss racers are killing our own sport. You may say it's NHRA but really it's not. It's all the cry babies that bitch on forums like these but have no balls to take a stand and voice there opinion face to face.
People continue to CRY about buttons, blockers, fuel, closing the lanes, this guy was late, this thing, that thing, bla bla bla!!!! Buttons on the pedal, buttons on the steering wheel and buttons up peoples @##! Who cares!!!
I have this question to the "older crowd" the people that complain about what the younger generation that's now involved in this sports does.. WHAT YOUNG PEOPLE ARE JOINING STOCK OR SUPER STOCK? Who? Who is going to join a bunch of crying drama queens that jump to there own unproven decision? No one.. What younger person can afford a10, 000 motor to go stock racing because the dropped indexes? Who? Oh you’re getting it now... No one!!
The best is you bash a person, a family and most of all a company that has done nothing but go out of there way and will go out of there way for any sportsman competitor!
These are people ( Fletcher, Biondo , Jegs and many others) that expose our sport to other levels. That don' t want it to end.
To the people that cry about new ways to win.. Here you go. There's these gps things that people drive around with in there car.. Oh most of us now have them in there tow rigs. Take the units out and put them in your race cars for first round. Punch in the thing " SCALES" .. That is the only way most of you guys will find them.

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Seems to me that having a cam a few thou. too big or a slightly higher than stock rocker ratio in a stocker would be "slight" and "harmless" (non advantageous) but it is still against the rules.