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SS Engine Guy 07-06-2010 11:36 PM

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John Langer 07-07-2010 06:26 AM

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Other then the weight of the casting, there is no advantage to run the aluminum E Pontiac head over a cast head. The E head is actually smaller then the cast head.

Angelo DiTocco 07-07-2010 06:52 AM

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Don't forget about Jaques Blais out of CT.... he has a great car (Mid-90's mustang)... w/ a 460 Ford Combo.... doesn't get out much.... in good conditions/good track... the full feed bag tune-up, etc... I think he'd be right there with these other guys. I believe he also is the record holder in D or E...

James Perrone 07-07-2010 07:41 AM

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Hey Don
Race watcher KOWN MORE THAN ANYONE about tis subject..
Wheels Up you got a REAL NAME..besides BS?
Bring Ca$h Homey I will be there.

WheelsUp 07-07-2010 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by James Perrone (Post 196609)
Hey Don
Race watcher KOWN MORE THAN ANYONE about tis subject..
Wheels Up you got a REAL NAME..besides BS?
Bring Ca$h Homey I will be there.

Anybody that lives in Long Island, N.J. you need to show respect.

joe176 07-07-2010 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by WheelsUp (Post 196628)
Anybody that lives in Long Island, N.J. you need to show respect.

Long Islands in New York...check a map lately ?

Jason Fuller 07-07-2010 09:43 AM

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Wheels up....

Originally Posted by Salty Dog
I must have missed something, you never asked who has the fastest or quickest. But if that is the case, the Hatari car whooped the Silveus car on both ends of the track in Charlotte this year, so there is your answer. The Hatari car is the quickest, fastest and baddest...proven fact.

-The Dog
Wheels up said...
I know for a fact, Silveus was in bracket mode when he ran the Hatari car, he was protecting is combo from getting hit, he will not hold back at Indy!

Now if that wasn't a quote staright from "West Hollywood" I don't know what is? Nice Thread there buddy....Use your real name while your at it so we can all really enjoy these alternative lifestyle threads from your "West Hollywood perspective's"
Have a fabuloussssssssss day! ;)

WheelsUp 07-07-2010 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by joe176 (Post 196630)
Long Islands in New York...check a map lately ?

Hey joe, New york, New Jersey, what is the difference.

W J 07-07-2010 10:18 AM

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Someone here is swimming in shark-infested waters and hopefully, his post count is not going reach 60 before he's dragged under by a Great White.... just off Long Island, NY.... never to be heard from again. WJ

WheelsUp 07-07-2010 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by W J (Post 196637)
Someone here is swimming in shark-infested waters and hopefully, his post count is not going reach 60 before he's dragged under by a Great White.... just off Long Island, NY.... never to be heard from again. WJ

Not a chance, if you paid me I would not live in either one of those states.

WheelsUp 07-07-2010 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Jason Fuller (Post 196631)
Wheels up....

Originally Posted by Salty Dog
I must have missed something, you never asked who has the fastest or quickest. But if that is the case, the Hatari car whooped the Silveus car on both ends of the track in Charlotte this year, so there is your answer. The Hatari car is the quickest, fastest and baddest...proven fact.

-The Dog
Wheels up said...
I know for a fact, Silveus was in bracket mode when he ran the Hatari car, he was protecting is combo from getting hit, he will not hold back at Indy!

Now if that wasn't a quote staright from "West Hollywood" I don't know what is? Nice Thread there buddy....Use your real name while your at it so we can all really enjoy these alternative lifestyle threads from your "West Hollywood perspective's"
Have a fabuloussssssssss day! ;)

You seem to know a lot about West Hollywood, is that your favorite place to find your dates?

joe176 07-07-2010 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by WheelsUp (Post 196635)
Hey joe, New york, New Jersey, what is the difference.

Good comeback...tough guy.

WheelsUp 07-07-2010 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by joe176 (Post 196651)
Good comeback...tough guy.

You have a fast car, hope to meet you one day.

John Smith 07-07-2010 12:02 PM

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Joe, I think he likes you.

Bill Kennedy 07-07-2010 12:06 PM

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1 176 GT/FA Joseph Franco III, N. Babylon NY, '05 Cava 9.801 10.80 -0.999
Just so we all know how fast Joe Franco's car is!! This is from this past weekend.

stefan callender 07-07-2010 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by WheelsUp (Post 196648)
Not a chance, if you paid me I would not live in either one of those states.

Thats because you couldnt, only the STRONG survive the Tri state area. No softies allowed. Go back to your pig pen.

stefan callender 07-07-2010 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by WheelsUp (Post 196658)
You have a fast car, hope to meet you one day.

DUDE why dont you use your real name???

Ed Wright 07-07-2010 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by stefan callender (Post 196680)
DUDE why dont you use your real name???

Probably sits down to pee, if ya know what I mean. :D

Ed Fernandez 07-07-2010 01:27 PM

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He's probably one of San Francisco's finest fairies.

WheelsUp 07-07-2010 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Ed Wright (Post 196686)
Probably sits down to pee, if ya know what I mean. :D

Being a senior member, you know all about those peeing problems, but you are still ok in my book.

WheelsUp 07-07-2010 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Ed Fernandez (Post 196690)
He's probably one of San Francisco's finest fairies.

One last time, Ashley last name is ..............................!

PONTIAC'S REVENGE 07-07-2010 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave Tincher (Post 196458)
Stacey,
You guys need to get a set of cast heads going! Nothing but stock cranks and rod sizes here. I know what the difference is between the Edelbrock heads and the factory Pontiac heads, you not fooling anybody. The cast gm heads are better than the alluminum OEM gm heads I will agree with that. But the edelbrock and Pontiacs, thats different. Hats off to you guys for getting NHRA to do that for you, but you know its Bogus. Just because I said the Indy teardown thing why do you assume I am accusing anyone of cheating?? I was asked for my opinion so I gave it. And thats what it is my OPINION.. I dont expect you to like it. I still think JS has the Baddest D car....

I agree with Stefen.. The fords are going to kick all of our ***'s from GT/AA to FA anyway

Dave,
You know as I do its not what's correct but what's legal. When you say bogus, we didnt invent the model of NHRA bogus. Gawd we've been running against sbc's out of checkered cabs and 400's with incorrect heads should I go on? It took us awhile but we learned, in fact we got way more flak from the pontiac community that you guys. :(.

If you want to run old SS rules, lets do everything not just what you want to pick on. How many RPMs would you turn with cast iron rods, cranks, stock block and stock valves? You can't point at one thing and say "at least" when your benefiting from it in other ways is all I'm saying. ;)

Bischoff has my cast iron heads flowing almost the same at 10 hp less rating. Its the effort, time and cost we saved not a bunch of power. The cc's determine that, everyone knows that. We have to fill IN the edlebrocks 27 cc's on the intake runner!!! Tony was willing to do what was needed on the old iron heads, but its still on the back burner do to cost and time!

Wasn't sure of your intention on that statement, but some people took it that way. What did you mean exacty?:confused:

Stacy

Ed Wright 07-07-2010 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by WheelsUp (Post 196707)
Being a senior member, you know all about those peeing problems, but you are still ok in my book.

Yeah, I don't need an alarm clock. I'm up at 5:00am every morning taking care of that.

WheelsUp 07-07-2010 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Ed Wright (Post 196729)
Yeah, I don't need an alarm clock. I'm up at 5:00am every morning taking care of that.

Thanks for sharing that with us, look forward to hearing from you again.

Frank Castros 07-07-2010 07:57 PM

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Can anyone tell me what combination is in Staci Smith's GT/DA Daytona and what the factor is?

billy leber 07-07-2010 08:47 PM

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383 305hp

Frank Castros 07-08-2010 04:25 AM

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Thanks Billy

Byron Worner 07-08-2010 11:58 AM

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If I put my motor in a Cavalier can I run D???

Ed Wright 07-08-2010 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Byron Worner (Post 196888)
If I put my motor in a Cavalier can I run D???

Why not?

joe176 07-08-2010 01:34 PM

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I always like to let the car do the talkin.

Hagen Gary 07-08-2010 01:38 PM

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Because all he sees around town driving them are high school girls or parked at a trailer house. I'm not sayin, I'm just sayin. Cavalier would never be on my list of cool fast cars if I had no idea of Super Stock.

Ed Wright 07-08-2010 03:59 PM

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Byron is awfully fast...

TinSoldier 3215 07-08-2010 07:34 PM

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Well!!! We will find out at Indy who haves the baddest GT/DA in the county!!! There are some fast cars in DA with Jerry, Paul, Phil, But if I was a betting man. MY MONEY WOULD BE ON THAT BES HORSEPOWER!!!!!

CMac455 07-08-2010 09:16 PM

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All combinations have variable advantages. Where a Pontiac lacks a Chevy gains, and vice versa, as far as combination advantages go. Chevy's HP factors are equally as spurious as Pontiac's Edelbrock replacements. Phil/Peter's versus Silveus' heads-up run will prove that to you. Power versus Weight; simple physics.

There is a devoid history, for the 428 Pontiac, prior to the release of the Edelbrock replacements. Having said that, I wouldn't exactly jump to conclusions on the potential of the combination using factory castings. Instead of spending time mathematically comparing 10 CFM versus ~100lbs, I can tell you that the aluminum heads are futile, as far as performance goes. Like Stacy said, they're just nice, cheap replacements.

Plus, Indians have been getting pooped on for centuries. It's our turn! :0)
All in all, I'm just excited that SuperStock isn't as monotonous as it used to be. I'm havin some fuuuuuunnn!!

WheelsUp 07-09-2010 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by jonesracing (Post 196967)
Well!!! We will find out at Indy who haves the baddest GT/DA in the county!!! There are some fast cars in DA with Jerry, Paul, Phil, But if I was a betting man. MY MONEY WOULD BE ON THAT BES HORSEPOWER!!!!!

Who is BES horsepower?

Dave Ficacci 07-09-2010 11:33 AM

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Who has a BES engine?

John Langer 07-09-2010 12:58 PM

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BES is Tony Bischoff out of Guilford, IN. He has either won or runnered up in the last 4-5 Engine Master Challenges. When it comes to N/A power, he the the best I can afford since Mike Edwards wont cash my checks. He has made a name for himself in the fastest street car world in the NMCA and NMRA building the fastest , most reliable, highest horsepower motors. He doesn't specialize in one engine brand. he builds wicked sbc, sbf, bbc, bbm, Pontiacs etc. He built Phils 428 currently in the Hatari and Stacy's GT/AA motor. I think he also just went thru someone's SS/AH motor and a wedge mopar as well. It is not uncommon for him to have 75-100 engines in the shop. He head and cast intake work is second to none!

WheelsUp 07-09-2010 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by jonesracing (Post 196967)
Well!!! We will find out at Indy who haves the baddest GT/DA in the county!!! There are some fast cars in DA with Jerry, Paul, Phil, But if I was a betting man. MY MONEY WOULD BE ON THAT BES HORSEPOWER!!!!!

Jerry "superman" Silveus has won Indy two years in a row, do I need to say anymore? His engine is built by the same person that builds mine, Voges Cylinder Heads and Engines.

stefan callender 07-09-2010 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by WheelsUp (Post 197109)
Jerry "superman" Silveus has won Indy two years in a row, do I need to say anymore? His engine is built by the same person that builds mine, Voges Cylinder Heads and Engines.

What class do you run???

WheelsUp 07-09-2010 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by stefan callender (Post 197127)
What class do you run???

Do you really live in a zoo?


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