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Superfan1 07-23-2010 10:20 AM

Re: How about most impressive SS cars?
 
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Originally Posted by Greg Hill (Post 199916)
I would have to say Paul Adams T-bolt. I just can't figure out why it smokes so much.

Jim Daniels SS/AH Dart
Paul Adams SS/B T-bolt
Charlie Westcott Jr. and Sr. SS/AH Cudas
Greg, you are 100% right; I have no idea why Adam's T-bolt smokes so much.

Bryan Worner 07-23-2010 10:33 AM

Re: How about most impressive SS cars?
 
I'm going to have to stay "in house" on this one and say my brother's (Byron) SS/IA Camaro! Still undefeated in heads up runs!!

mat H/SA 07-23-2010 11:32 AM

Re: How about most impressive SS cars?
 
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Originally Posted by Todd Boyer (Post 199935)
I was gonna put a vote in for Ken Montgomery's car which is actually a Plymouth not a Dodge. Bought new 45 YEARS ago, and still raced today with a 4-speed!!!!

And anyone's Dodge Dart !!!!

oups youre right Todd, Plymouth,

Tracy Robbins 07-23-2010 12:59 PM

Re: How about most impressive SS cars?
 
Although not the fastest SS/AM in the country I think Jim Reynolds beautiful '57 chevy is definitely the most impressive. Anytime you can get a '57 to run in the 8.80's quartermile and 5.50's eigth mile and leave like a pro stocker you are making some serious hp. The retro paint job is way cool too!

FINESPLINE 07-23-2010 02:42 PM

Re: How about most impressive SS cars?
 
How about Jon Percy's 64 Plymouth lightweight in SS/AA last year at 8.61. Record still standing. Thats pushing a lot of air !!

Geerhead55 07-23-2010 02:44 PM

Re: How about most impressive SS cars?
 
Jeff,,,I will say Hi to everyone for you up here. It sounds like you're doing a little tweaking on your Camaro,,,,hope the project is going well.
Take care,,,,,,,Danny Durham

dragracer9911 07-23-2010 03:01 PM

Re: How about most impressive SS cars?
 
Currently, John Calvert's SS/G

Good old Days, any of Dick Estevez's Cobra Jets. A one point, held the SS/EA and SS/FA records with the '68 light weight and the SS/GA and SS/HA record with the '69 Blue convertible. Also, prior to that, held the SS/H and SS/I records with the '69 Red convertible.

427_ED 07-23-2010 04:30 PM

Re: How about most impressive SS cars?
 
Corvettes of Bridges and Armstrong. And this Dodge in SS/BM. http://i683.photobucket.com/albums/v...9302009194.jpg

Ed Wright 07-23-2010 04:36 PM

Re: How about most impressive SS cars?
 
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Originally Posted by Don Whitmore (Post 199851)
Ron Terrell's '85 Camaro SS/JA, a little 305 ci that rules the largest car count class w/ the most variety of combinations!!

He was impressive at Indy. Sure can't say he crawled off into a class where he would be alone.

X-TECH MAN 07-23-2010 05:38 PM

Re: How about most impressive SS cars?
 
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Originally Posted by dragracer9911 (Post 200002)
Currently, John Calvert's SS/G

Good old Days, any of Dick Estevez's Cobra Jets. A one point, held the SS/EA and SS/FA records with the '68 light weight and the SS/GA and SS/HA record with the '69 Blue convertible. Also, prior to that, held the SS/H and SS/I records with the '69 Red convertible.

The 68 Lite wt. of Dicks was Al Joniac's 68 Winternationals winning car. Dick still had the title in Als name when he was racing it before old race cars became expensive collector cars. I used to travel with those guys (Dick and Alfred) and Jim Morgan a lot back then. I helped do some work (cylinder heads) on all 3 cars back in the day and helped in tear downs after class wins and records. It was a fun time and "stuff" and life was simpler. Great memories and great friends. On a sad note Dicks wife passed away last winter and she was one in a million. It wasnt the same seeing Dick at the York reunion this year without her.

Rich Biebel 07-23-2010 05:53 PM

Re: How about most impressive SS cars?
 
Terry since you did Cobra Jet heads you would probably agree.......
They were about the only heads I know of where it was common to bolt torque plates to them to do a VJ........

We did some in the shop I worked at on some local CJ Stockers before heads were messed with. A good running C/SA Mustang CJ ran maybe 11.20's at less than 120

Frank Castros 07-23-2010 06:49 PM

Re: How about most impressive SS cars?
 
Mopars, GM, Fords, it doesn't matter, too many kick *** cars in SS to mention!

Mike Gray 07-23-2010 07:19 PM

Re: How about most impressive SS cars?
 
Kip Martins 289 mustang
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvEwF...eature=related

bigshow2966 07-23-2010 07:58 PM

Re: How about most impressive SS cars?
 
Paul Rossi's Challenger and Jim Van Cleve's Fairlane were pretty cool.

cicero819 07-23-2010 08:14 PM

Re: How about most impressive SS cars?
 
Jack Mullins Pontiac Station Wagon, Rock Haas Mustang, John Armstrong ss/aa, Brian Oakes ss/da, Thomas ss/ba vette.

X-TECH MAN 07-23-2010 09:16 PM

Re: How about most impressive SS cars?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich Biebel (Post 200030)
Terry since you did Cobra Jet heads you would probably agree.......
They were about the only heads I know of where it was common to bolt torque plates to them to do a VJ........

We did some in the shop I worked at on some local CJ Stockers before heads were messed with. A good running C/SA Mustang CJ ran maybe 11.20's at less than 120

I never used a torque plate to do a valve job on the CJ heads I did back in the day. Dick picked up a plate once and we tried it and could see no real difference in the way the valves fit the seats plus it was a pain in the ***** to do. .I did use a plate on some other brands. The first set I did for Dick Estivez was in 1969 and they came originally from Gapp& Roush. They were a mess and after I fixed them Dick and Morgan picked up close to 4 tenths in the Red SS/I stick convert. The CC's were off and none were equal and I was able to get NHRA (Greg X) to accept unshrouding the exhaust valve using a stone that was .250 thou larger than the seat cut even though it cut the chamber wall. That was worth about 1 1/2 MPH. Remember this was in 1969 and we all were still learning. Morgan ( one of the best today) went on to build killer engines on his own such as for Ken Milie and Bill Hawk. I ended up working for Greg X in Div. 1 for about 2 years (1974-75) then went to IHRA for 22 1/2 years and just did heads on the side ( I had a good good Govt. job with bennies) for a lot of guys in the early1970's. Freddies Moores SS/IA SD Pontiac Firebird, Danny Lattimores SS/J Olds Cutlass if you remember any of those cars, this was before all the "acid porting" in stock and porting and welding in S/S became the thing to do. I also showed Greg and Marty Barrett (Div. 3)the difference between the standard CJ head and the Candian heads and how you could tell the difference without pulling them off the engine. Greg X in turn took the time and taught me how to check a camshaft overlap and duration (pre 1985 rules). Anyway thats my story and Im sticking to it.

Rich Biebel 07-23-2010 09:46 PM

Re: How about most impressive SS cars?
 
Greg and Marty were the tech guys who checked us at Indy in 1966......and DQ'ed both us as r/up and the class winner ??? Robinson in I/SA
Greg was tough and always worked us over with our sedan delivery and then with our Chevy II a few years later....He seemd to let up a bit when we set the H/S record at Atco in Sept. 1970.....
Trust me I remember all the cars you mention.........

The CJ Heads had a reputation for the seats moving on the end cylinders once they were torqued. It was a royal PITA to do a VJ with torque plate on the heads......

I did head prep for years .......Our shop gid a great deal of machine work for T/K's......for many years.......I did heads....rods...blocks.....for well over 10 years......I know the life.....very well

I had/have a pretty complete head shop in my garage and built many engines and did heads in there for years........I still do an occasional set and have a pair of heads to freshen up this weekend....Brodix....bracket car...

Ed Fernandez 07-23-2010 10:15 PM

Re: How about most impressive SS cars?
 
Scott Gove SS/AM 8.006 Atco 10/2006.No turbo,no nitrous just 358 CI's.

Todd Hoven 07-23-2010 10:21 PM

Re: How about most impressive SS cars?
 
Paul Adams, 64 Tbolt SS/B. 8.80's

Mike Schwartz 07-23-2010 11:51 PM

Re: How about most impressive SS cars?
 
How about Jeff Tripp's SS/AM Monte Carlo? Definitely not the fastest car, but he drove it to Top Ten's in NHRA and IHRA in the same year.

Stephen & Horace Johnson 07-24-2010 03:26 AM

Re: How about most impressive SS cars?
 
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Originally Posted by Todd Hoven (Post 200090)
Paul Adams, 64 Tbolt SS/B. 8.80's

you mean 8.70s :D

X-TECH MAN 07-24-2010 07:22 AM

Re: How about most impressive SS cars?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich Biebel (Post 200081)
Greg and Marty were the tech guys who checked us at Indy in 1966......and DQ'ed both us as r/up and the class winner ??? Robinson in I/SA
Greg was tough and always worked us over with our sedan delivery and then with our Chevy II a few years later....He seemd to let up a bit when we set the H/S record at Atco in Sept. 1970.....
Trust me I remember all the cars you mention.........

The CJ Heads had a reputation for the seats moving on the end cylinders once they were torqued. It was a royal PITA to do a VJ with torque plate on the heads......

I did head prep for years .......Our shop gid a great deal of machine work for T/K's......for many years.......I did heads....rods...blocks.....for well over 10 years......I know the life.....very well

I had/have a pretty complete head shop in my garage and built many engines and did heads in there for years........I still do an occasional set and have a pair of heads to freshen up this weekend....Brodix....bracket car...

Ahhhh the good ole days. But back on the subject of the thread.......I always liked the Bennett & Saranni (sp?) Camaro (one bad ride in the day) in SS/I. They were tough and good people to race against and it seemed like it was Morgans Mustang and Ron Saranni's 350 Camaro in the final a lot of the time for points races and just money meets. One race at Atco was for the Div.1 championship and those two were in the final. Whoever won took home the championship as they were dead even in points. I dont remmeber the exact year. The 5 amber (remember those) tree came down with Morgan in SS/GA (with a fastback) and The Camaro in SS/I. Different classes but the spot was almost heads up as they ran off of records back then. The Camaro broke on the line (engine) and morgan cruised to his first Div. Champioship. I was sorry the engine expired for Carl and Ron but with the win I felt a lot of pride with being involved in a small way. Those days are history but great memories,

Dinsdale 07-24-2010 10:30 AM

Re: How about most impressive SS cars?
 
Anything with a stick in it. I am biased towards Fords but will cheer for any brand as long as they's shiftin'

http://www.streetfire.net/video/973-137_709593.htm

Todd Hoven 07-24-2010 11:15 AM

Re: How about most impressive SS cars?
 
Even more impressed now :D

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen & Horace Johnson (Post 200111)
you mean 8.70s :D


Stephen & Horace Johnson 07-24-2010 11:39 AM

Re: How about most impressive SS cars?
 
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Originally Posted by mat H/SA (Post 199864)
1- Armstrong vette
2- Fledman 66 ss/o impala
3- Ken Montgomery 65 dodge(original owner 4spd.......)
4- Abbazia ss/h 66 nova, last year at lebanon valley wow that was impressive

and 5- an 1967 belvedere ss/e black with withe top don't know the name but really nice car



you're talking about Dave Mann's SS/E car.

WitchyWoman 07-24-2010 11:50 AM

Re: How about most impressive SS cars?
 
STEVE WANN gets my vote!!!! I especially like the ONE he's
driving right now!!!

ted mclemore 07-24-2010 07:21 PM

Re: How about most impressive SS cars?
 
how about jeff lawrence 1988 mustang gt/aa. 9.09@146.34 . car @engine built by jeff himself. not too bad since hes running against big block pro stock type cobalts g5s etc.

stefan callender 07-24-2010 08:43 PM

Re: How about most impressive SS cars?
 
Charlie Graf's Cavalier back in the day....

Michael Kilduff 07-25-2010 12:22 PM

Re: How about most impressive SS cars?
 
Too many to pick just one-

Bucky's King Kuda SS/AH
Marty Rinehart's Camaro SS/EA
Ewing Brothers Camaro SS/JA
Jimmy Bridges Vette SS/B
AH Adkins AMX SS/B
Jim Reynolds Vette
Robin Brown's Chevy II

Need to add Andy Fogle's 68 camaro SS/GA

Angelo DiTocco 07-25-2010 01:27 PM

Re: How about most impressive SS cars?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ted mclemore (Post 200251)
how about jeff lawrence 1988 mustang gt/aa. 9.09@146.34 . car @engine built by jeff himself. not too bad since hes running against big block pro stock type cobalts g5s etc.

Agreed - his performance is consistently overlooked and/or ignored - but, he doesn't race much and that might be the reason.

Stephen & Horace Johnson 07-25-2010 02:08 PM

Re: How about most impressive SS cars?
 
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Originally Posted by Angelo DiTocco (Post 200368)
Agreed - his performance is consistently overlooked and/or ignored - but, he doesn't race much and that might be the reason.

i agree, that SBF, hauls the mail!!

Ernie Neal 07-25-2010 10:17 PM

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Back in the early 70's, I was most impressed with Roger England's Sox & Martin prepared 70 Hemi Cuda. Roger, won a bunch of races with this car.
Ernie

Scott Creed 07-26-2010 12:32 AM

Re: How about most impressive SS cars?
 
Danny Helmer's SS/I Camaro 15 years ago

john edwards 07-26-2010 04:41 PM

Re: How about most impressive SS cars?
 
how about the black camero out west that keeps takeing the pole , with a v/6

Nitro Joe Jackson 07-26-2010 09:12 PM

Re: How about most impressive SS cars?
 
poles are interesting but wins pays the bills, But yes that Black Camaro flies, but it has since the ISC Racer Tape days to.

Anyhow hands down the most impressive SS car ever to me is the killer SS/EA Chevelle of Ray Allen, class wins and event wins speak for themselves with this car and who in the world would ever think it could run with the hemi cars that ran that class.

honorable mention, how about that Corvette that first rocked the Hemi world in SS/A stick. Scott Wilcox's killer Vette


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