Re: life after Super Stock for the Hemi A-bodies?
 

I was not aware that he had two. I never asked Bob and he never mentioned a second car. The wheelstanding car posted earlier in this thread is this car. This is the only LO dart I have seen him race other than when he drove the Landy cars. Any pics of the second car?

Re: life after Super Stock for the Hemi A-bodies?
 

Notice the roof paint and the Car Craft decals on the side glass...so was this one of Landys 68 Hemi Darts converted into a 70 model....we know it wasn't #859 so was #866 converted or did he convert someone else's old race car.
http://www.firebirdonline.com/blast_...eck_bigger.jpg

Re: life after Super Stock for the Hemi A-bodies?
 

Dick told me he converted THE stick car,#859, which I never understood, considering it was in my shop & I KNOW it never had the quarters messed with as a conversion to 1970. Don't believe it was the auto, #866 car, either cause it doesn't "look" like it was done, but not owning it I can't say for sure. My guess is that he converted another stick car he had owned at one time.
Dick had a log book of all the cars he owned including serial numbers of them. That's how he documented mine. Sure would be interesting to be able to see that book today huh???

liteweight

Re: life after Super Stock for the Hemi A-bodies?
 

Do you think Mike or Dick's son, Robert, might have this book? I'm sure they would be more than willing to help to help solve any disputes.

Re: life after Super Stock for the Hemi A-bodies?
 

Here's an early 70's pro-stock photo with Don Grotheer's 70 Hemi Cuda staging, notice all of the 68 Hemi Darts...So here's today's quiz, can you name the three L023 Hemi Darts in the back ground.
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y27...ostock1970.jpg

Re: life after Super Stock for the Hemi A-bodies?
 

THT Dart, Gator Raider & Larry Cooper

Re: life after Super Stock for the Hemi A-bodies?
 

Jim Hayter in the Camaro?

Re: life after Super Stock for the Hemi A-bodies?
 

Might want to contact Todd Werner in Florida, he bought all the assests of DLI and has everything Dick owned down at his place in St. Pete.

Re: life after Super Stock for the Hemi A-bodies?
 

He doesn't have "everything"

lightweight

Re: life after Super Stock for the Hemi A-bodies?
 

Here's another shot of Bob Lambeck's L023 68 Hemi Dart running in Pro with a 69 grill...someone said he had two of these cars.
http://inlinethumb13.webshots.com/19...600x600Q85.jpg

Re: life after Super Stock for the Hemi A-bodies?
 

Goodyears AND Firestones!!!!!!

Re: life after Super Stock for the Hemi A-bodies?
 

Maybe Bob Lambeck was working to get a 'Contingency Award' from both tire manufacturers.

Much like many racers in the late-60's and early-70's that put
a Hooker Headers decal on one side of the car, and a Doug's Header
decal on the other side.

Wouldn't be the first time that was tried.........;)

Re: life after Super Stock for the Hemi A-bodies?
 

That would have been me. I got that info from the man hisself. He had both fender tags for the cars at the time.

liteweight

Re: life after Super Stock for the Hemi A-bodies?
 

Are you sure that he was not talking about the fender tag for the Landy dart and his dart that is shown?

Re: life after Super Stock for the Hemi A-bodies?
 

He also had the Landy tag for #859. . I remember him saying he had 2 LO cars that he campaigned.. He knew the location of both cars, had both fender tags for them at one time.. One guy wasn't interested in getting the tag back on the car. The other is currently on the car.

liteweight.

Re: life after Super Stock for the Hemi A-bodies?
 

Here's a few more old shots...one of Bob Lambeck's 68 Hemi Dart, is it the same car or not...and some of his 68 Hemi Barracuda A/MP.
http://images24.fotki.com/v864/photo...ionohio-vi.jpg
http://images29.fotki.com/v1006/phot...6winter-vi.jpg
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-8...2520spring.jpg

Re: life after Super Stock for the Hemi A-bodies?
 

Bob Reed owns the Lambeck BO29 car.

Re: life after Super Stock for the Hemi A-bodies?
 

I would quess it is the same car, going by decal placement. The Dodge on the Quarters, Hurst on the lower forward front fenders, & Holley on the lower rear side of front fernders.

liteweight

Re: life after Super Stock for the Hemi A-bodies?
 

Here's a good article on the Lambeck's.

http://www.dragracingonline.com/colu.../xiii_2-1.html

Re: life after Super Stock for the Hemi A-bodies?
 

In the early days of the Division one NHRA Pro Stock circuit there were many Hemi Darts & Cudas competing. Those types of cars competed at the national event level for a few years with less than stellar results. I remember herb McCandless running one and Melvin Yow if my fuzzy mind is working.

Re: life after Super Stock for the Hemi A-bodies?
 

doolie,

1970 was the 'First Year' for Pro/Stock,,,,

like you said, many of the 68' Hemi Darts and Barracuda's left
the Super/Stock ranks, and went into 1970 Pro/Stock with 'as is' cars...

That's where the money was, in Pro/Stock Meets and Match-Racing,,,

On the other hand, guys with 68' Camaro's were dropping in 427's or
Rat-strokers in their cars, along with Tunnel-rams...

In 1970, the early part of the year, the Mopar A-Body Hemi's had the
jump on the competitors in Pro/Stock,,,,,,,,,,

as a 68' Hemi Barracuda set the record at 10.09,,,,,,,,

But, by mid-year, the 68' Camaro's with Tunnel-Rammed 427's (ex-A/MP cars) caught up...,,,,,,,,,,,,,and were running 9.90's,,,,,,,,,

I do remember in NED 1, many of the 'freshened-up '68' Hemi's were running between
10.20's and 10.50's,,,,,,,,,, while the 'tired' SS/B and SS/BA cars were running 10.70's and up,,,,,,,

They were too costly to build,,,,,

Re: life after Super Stock for the Hemi A-bodies?
 

He may not have had the record,,, but the early part of 1970 seemed to belong to Bill Jenkins and his '68 427 tunnel rammed Camaro, as he had back to back wins at the Winternationals and the Gatornationals, and also ran in the 9.90 range that day in Pomona, the first time Pro Stock was contested in NHRA national event competition. His opponent in each final was of course, Ronnie Sox in his Hemi powered '70 Cuda.
Danny Durham

Re: life after Super Stock for the Hemi A-bodies?
 

Danny,

At the 'major events' Bill Jenkins was 'a step-ahead' of the others,
which included the 70' Winternationals and 70' Gatornationals,
but a local tracks throughout the northeast NED 1,

it was Ed Miller, Bob Gaudreau, Ken Montgomery, Bob Banning,
and Jack Arnew, running the 68' Hemi Super/Stock cars.

Also, Bill Flynn, Bill Stiles and Chuck McJury and the Mutt Brothers
(running an ex-Sox & Martin Barracuda)

The 427 68' and 69' Camaro's started popping up in July 70'.

Lets not forget, the Hemi's swept the other events in 1970;
Super Stock Magazine Nationals
Springnationals
Summernationals
Indy Nationals
Supernationals
World Finals

Re: life after Super Stock for the Hemi A-bodies?
 

Ah,,yes, the local tracks! Unfortunately, out here in the northwest, there were few players and no hitters, on a national perspective. I remember going to my first "Pro Stock" show at Puyallup in the summer of '70,, at least thats what they called it at the track, and I couldn't believe how slow the cars were. My only knowledge at the time of Pro Stock was what I read in Hot Rod, Car Craft and SS&DI as I wasn't aware of National Dragster yet, heck I was still in highschool, trying to get by with a 6 cylinder Chevelle!
Take care, Paul,, hope Christmas was good.
Danny Durham

Re: life after Super Stock for the Hemi A-bodies?
 

Danny,

Correct,,
Some of the early Pro/Stock cars were lugging down the track
at 10.80's and higher,,,,,,,,,,,

In mid-1970 at Dover Drag Strip, there were usually '4' cars entered in
Pro/Stock (Dover regulars),,,
'2' 68' Hemi Darts, a 70' Hemi Duster, and a 69' 427 Nova,,,,,,,

Nobody was blazing a trail, and there wasn't a large group of cars entering the Pro/Stock ranks,

But the money was decent at the time,,,,,,,$300 Winner / $150 Runner-Up
for a 'round-robin double elimination' event with '4' cars participating,
so at least you would get to see '6' races,,,,,,,

In early-1970, sometimes only '2' cars showed up for Pro/Stock,,,,,,,
so it would be a 'best 2 out of 3',,,,,,,,with the winner getting $200, and the loser 'zip'.

Re: life after Super Stock for the Hemi A-bodies?
 

Anyone know where the first Pro Stock race took place, I believe they had X's marked on the side windows for the new class.

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f3...g?t=1253755503

Re: life after Super Stock for the Hemi A-bodies?
 

Moose,,,,,,,,

X/SS,

First appeared on the future Pro/Stock cars at the
1969 Super/Stock Magazine Nationals.

August 9 & 10 @ US30 Dragway, York, Pennsylvania.

X/SS = Experimental/Super Stock

Re: life after Super Stock for the Hemi A-bodies?
 

Grumpy-Dyno-Jungle-Sox
http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w...scan0013-6.jpg

Re: life after Super Stock for the Hemi A-bodies?
 

Very Cool picture. Was this for publicity ?? where was this??

liteweight

Re: life after Super Stock for the Hemi A-bodies?
 

I couldn't tell you where those four cars were racing...but here's another shot of Bob Lambeck's pro stock 68 Hemi Dart at the 71 Winternationals.
http://images44.fotki.com/v220/photo...ters016-vi.jpg

Re: life after Super Stock for the Hemi A-bodies?
 

I remember a Maryland track running four wide years ago. I believe that it was Capital but I am not sure. I remember seeing a picture from the later 1970's when Dyno Don ran a Mustang II at that track when he ran an 8.06 in a four way match race against Grumpy and Sox and another car that I cannot remember. The best that any of the other ones ran was in the 8.30's I believe.
regards, Roland

Re: life after Super Stock for the Hemi A-bodies?
 

I knew it was a track in the north-east division...seen some old photo's of this first race years ago with some of the the 68 super stockers with a big X on the windows...US 30 Dragway York PA.


http://www.thevintageracer.com/york/001.jpg
http://www.thevintageracer.com/york/005.jpg
http://www.thevintageracer.com/york/019.jpg
http://www.thevintageracer.com/york/029.jpg
http://www.thevintageracer.com/york/043.jpg
http://www.thevintageracer.com/york/044.jpg
http://www.thevintageracer.com/york/053.jpg
http://www.thevintageracer.com/york/054.jpg
http://www.thevintageracer.com/york/059.jpg

http://www.thevintageracer.com/us30/yorkus30_01.htm

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Re: life after Super Stock for the Hemi A-bodies?
 

HM Those X/SS pix you posted
Millers car has plexi blocking grill area for areo improvements. Next, was the tail on this car.
S&M--- Only picture I've ever seen of his BO cars wearing something other than Keystones.

liteweight

Re: life after Super Stock for the Hemi A-bodies?
 

Here's another shot of Bob Lambeck's '68 Hemi Barracuda in A/MP...

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f3...g?t=1253534568

Re: life after Super Stock for the Hemi A-bodies?
 

Maybe I'm having a senior moment, but I thought I remembered Ven Senus being in northern Indiana not too far from the "western" US 30. Which brings to mind the "We Haul" Camaro.

Re: life after Super Stock for the Hemi A-bodies?
 

Dan, you're right that old sign appears to be from US 30 dragway near Gary Indiana and not York US 30 dragway, but the rest of the photos are from York US 30 in Pennsylvania.

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Re: life after Super Stock for the Hemi A-bodies?
 

Here's one of Larry Griffith's '70 Hemi Dart Swinger Pro Stocker...

http://inlinethumb22.webshots.com/47...600x600Q85.jpg

Re: life after Super Stock for the Hemi A-bodies?
 

HM
Do you know if this was a converted LO car???

liteweight

Re: life after Super Stock for the Hemi A-bodies?
 

Larry's car was built from his '68 car and subsequently restored back to it's 1968 configuration.

Re: life after Super Stock for the Hemi A-bodies?
 

Liteweight, I've heard two different stories on the Larry Griffith '68 Hemi Dart, one that it was a converted car, and the other that it just got repainted but still had it's '68 sheetmetal...so I don't know which story to believe...but this '68 Hemi Dart was painted black with lots of chrome underneath before it got re-restored and lettered up in his name & colors again.