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Slick Rick 3x9x 10-29-2010 01:00 PM

Re: Time to pick National Champs...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GarysZ24 (Post 218286)
Although I respect your thoughts on Brads possible 1st rnd demise (and digress my overlooking of "Slate Cummings" prior to todays updated points posting...my apologies to you Slate), I will also respectfully disagree with you for these reasons:

1. To Colorado Stock/Super Stock racers, 'Vegas is a common track to race at because it's much closer to them then half of Div. 5, so the Burton's have been there alot!

2. 'Vegas is a High altitude track, and thus again a track that Colorado (and Div. 5) racers are very familiar with...Kearney, Ne. is about the same altitude as 'Vegas, and Brad has raced there as well. Therefore...

3. Brad is more familiar with what he's going to encounter there than Slate will be...furthermore his father Scott has been racing for several years, and their cars are so similar, that shared info is plentyful.

4. How can you not feel good about Brad's likeliness of at least winning his first round at a familiar track like 'Vegas, when just this year at the most prestigious race of the year (his first time racing there to boot), that he makes it to the final round, at "THE BIG GO"??
I would feel the same about Brad Plourd, Justin Lamb, and Ryan McClannahan (three other young lions who've tasted the success of many 1st rnd wins), thus I'd feel good about all of them winning the first round at every race they'd attend (especially at a track they've frequently raced at)!!!

Now all of that said, since I digress to have now realized you can claim your best 3 of 6 national events, that adds several others to the mix besides Brad, Edmund, and Slate. Lurking behind (and within striking distance of them), are both Jody & Toby Lang, Leo Glasbrenner, Trista Henderson, and Rusty Hall. Therefore as you said, "that is what makes sportsman racing so great", & "we just have to wait and see"! :)

1st Rd of Vegas....

Car#-Driver(Opp'nt)-RT-----ET-- Speed-----
737 Dwight Machael
E1 ****WINNER**** 0.029 10.789 120.14
B/SA Dial: 10.76 (+/-): 0.029
Qualified: #56 10.783 -0.747

Car#-Driver(Opp'nt)-RT-----ET-- Speed
6 Brad Burton
0.052 11.001 117.31
E/SA Dial: 11.01 (+/-): -0.009
#11 10.990 -1.000


Gotta Love drag racing...that folks is why we do the racing on the track...

***With that being said, I still like Brad or Slate's chances to Win it.

...and Morehead in SS

Brian VP 10-29-2010 01:34 PM

Re: Time to pick National Champs...
 
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Originally Posted by Slick Rick 3x9x (Post 219019)
1st Rd of Vegas....

Car#-Driver(Opp'nt)-RT-----ET-- Speed-----
737 Dwight Machael
E1 ****WINNER**** 0.029 10.789 120.14
B/SA Dial: 10.76 (+/-): 0.029
Qualified: #56 10.783 -0.747

Car#-Driver(Opp'nt)-RT-----ET-- Speed
6 Brad Burton
0.052 11.001 117.31
E/SA Dial: 11.01 (+/-): -0.009
#11 10.990 -1.000


Gotta Love drag racing...that folks is why we do the racing on the track...

***With that being said, I still like Brad or Slate's chances to Win it.

...and Morehead in SS

Huh, how about that. No offense to Brad.

GarysZ24 10-29-2010 04:18 PM

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jmcarter, Bob Frey pretty much took the words out of my mouth.

Kevin Z. I wasn't trying to jinx Brad, I was trying to boost his confidence. Looking at the numbers it seems like it was a fender kind of finish (given they were only .3 apart on indexes. Based on what Bob said, this weeks race would've been a lot of rounds to go on, and I hope he get's this out of his system, because next weeks race is his most important one...that said he had some room to back into him, and they were side by side the whole way down???

As for you Brian and Slick rick, so what he stumbled, he can improve a bunch next week, and I believe he can do it, however he has to believe in himself that he could too!!!

K Stubbs 10-29-2010 06:13 PM

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Not sure if you will make a Vegas oddsmaker Gary.......I will take Morehead and Richardson.

Floyd Staggs 10-29-2010 06:15 PM

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How about that matchup between Ryan and Edmond 2nd rd.

GarysZ24 10-29-2010 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by K Stubbs (Post 219082)
Not sure if you will make a Vegas oddsmaker Gary.......I will take Morehead and Richardson.

I'm not so sure about that K., since I guess you didn't read my thread #'s 8, 11, 13, 25, 27, 32, & 35. Based on the top 25 stockers in national points entering this race (who appeared), 11 of 14 first rnd races went the way I thought they would...GREAT JOB TO:
EDMOND, SLATE, TRISTA, MARK, JODY, TOBY, FLETCH, LEO, KEVIN, RYAN, & DALLAS!!!

John Shaul had a normally tough contender in Bernie Cunningham, so that one was a toss up. As for Brad, based on the numbers, wins and race(s) entered by him and Dwight, no oddsmaker would've predicted any different than I did. However, Dwight rose to the occasion (congrats to him), and perhaps karma caught up with Brad??? However, there's still one more race for him....

Super Stock is still up in the air, and although it's good to be Ryan, and better to be Jody or Slate, it's best to be Lincoln....

Thus, the remainder of this race and the season would make for a great reality show, or soap opera...with a possible title of "The Tales at The Strip"???

GarysZ24 10-29-2010 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Floyd Staggs (Post 219083)
How about that matchup between Ryan and Edmond 2nd rd.

I wish I could see that, because it should be as good as last years final rnd between John Shaul, and Jimmy DeFrank, or this years US Nationals A/S Final!!!

I'm not going to be accused of jinxing anyone else, even though my statements were about the first round only (I have my pick, but I'm keeping it to myself), so may the best racer(s) win these remaining rounds.

If both Edmond & Ryan bring their "A" game to the line, then it's going to be one of the premier races of the event, and I hope somebody puts it on "You Tube"!

Floyd Staggs 10-30-2010 09:07 AM

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Opps, sorry Edmond.

Floyd Staggs 10-30-2010 12:33 PM

Re: Time to pick National Champs...
 
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Originally Posted by GarysZ24 (Post 219129)
I wish I could see that, because it should be as good as last years final rnd between John Shaul, and Jimmy DeFrank, or this years US Nationals A/S Final!!!

I'm not going to be accused of jinxing anyone else, even though my statements were about the first round only (I have my pick, but I'm keeping it to myself), so may the best racer(s) win these remaining rounds.

If both Edmond & Ryan bring their "A" game to the line, then it's going to be one of the premier races of the event, and I hope somebody puts it on "You Tube"!

12", I guess they were both ready.

Floyd Staggs 10-30-2010 02:39 PM

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Interesting matchup rd 3 SS, Ryan and Tony Mandella. This should be good.

GarysZ24 10-30-2010 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Floyd Staggs (Post 219184)
12", I guess they were both ready.

You got that right Floyd!!! .006 mov!!! That race should've gotten an "OH BABY, HOW ABOUT THAT" comment from the Great announcer "Bob Frey"!!! I certainly hope somebody recorded that race and will post in on "You Tube"......

Floyd Staggs 10-30-2010 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by GarysZ24 (Post 219244)
You got that right Floyd!!! .006 mov!!! That race should've gotten an "OH BABY, HOW ABOUT THAT" comment from the Great announcer "Bob Frey"!!! I certainly hope somebody recorded that race and will post in on "You Tube"......

You and me both. It's a shame they had to line up that early. Edmond is in the chase and he needed more points. I would have rather seen that as the final..
I see every thing else got put off till tomorrow. I can't wait.

Floyd Staggs 10-31-2010 11:43 AM

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Looks like Ryan took too much stripe against Mandella. Boo!

AC 10-31-2010 01:20 PM

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Is their any chance of Morehead winning the SS championship?

Floyd Staggs 10-31-2010 02:26 PM

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Yes there is.

GarysZ24 10-31-2010 06:38 PM

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Should Lincoln make the semi's he takes over the lead (for now that is), this week anyway, because Ryan just needs to win 3rnds next wknd to improve on a 51pt. div. However, they both best keep an eye on Tony Mandella, because he has a 40pt. div. to improve on too...this is getting interesting!!! :)

I still say advantage Lincoln, because he can improve points in all three of these remaining races, and he too has a 40pt. div. to improve on....

GarysZ24 10-31-2010 07:49 PM

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I don't know if anyone else has noticed, but one of my first rnd winners has now vaulted his self from 15th to at least 8th in national Stock pts. On this Halloween day (to borrow and paraphrase from the late great "Vincent Price"), a not so grizzly ghoul is "closing in to seal your doom"!!! Keep it up D.G.!!! :)

D6 has another player in this game!!!

thomas sheehan 10-31-2010 08:20 PM

Re: Time to pick National Champs...
 
Lincoln lost rd 5... stuck on 622 points (improving on a 40)
... winning one rd and just matching Ryan M. next week will be enough to pass him.

Ryan still in lead with 629 points (improving on a 51)

Tony Mandella with 607 points (also improving on a 40)
... must go 2 more rds than Lincoln and Ryan

my sleeper..... don't count out Sal Biondo - 602 points
.... (improving on a 51) must go 3 more rds than Ryan and Lincoln, and one more than Tony

... did I miss something?

The Hawk 10-31-2010 08:28 PM

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Super Stock and Stock will be fun to follow next weekend!

AC 10-31-2010 08:36 PM

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Wow SS has some great drivers all in the position to pull it off. Qualifying positions in Pomona will be interesting as well.

Floyd Staggs 10-31-2010 08:39 PM

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And Ryan went to the semis in stock. I'll be there next weekend so his #1 fan will be pushing him.

Tracy Robbins 10-31-2010 08:56 PM

Re: Time to pick National Champs...
 
Too bad Slate Cummings can't count todays race, two finals in two weeks...he's on a roll. He will be a factor next week for sure!

GarysZ24 11-01-2010 09:57 AM

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Welcome to the top Ten (actually 8th place), Dallas Glenn!!! Now you're a player in this game too!!!

cody pollage 11-01-2010 10:15 AM

Re: Time to pick National Champs...
 
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Originally Posted by Tracy Robbins (Post 219403)
Too bad Slate Cummings can't count todays race, two finals in two weeks...he's on a roll. He will be a factor next week for sure!


Two finals in two weeks in Stock, he also went to the finals last weekend in Super Stock in Noble.

Floyd Staggs 11-01-2010 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by GarysZ24 (Post 219458)
Welcome to the top Ten (actually 8th place), Dallas Glenn!!! Now you're a player in this game too!!!

Okay Gary, you're the math whiz so how does it shake out now? Yeterday was huge for Tony, I think.

richie 2 11-01-2010 01:37 PM

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what has to happen now after vegas for lincoln to win it?

Larry Hill 11-01-2010 02:25 PM

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http://www.nhra.com/points/lucas-nat.aspx

Link for stock

Floyd Staggs 11-01-2010 03:12 PM

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You are going to have to decipher that, Larry. It's greek to me.

GarysZ24 11-01-2010 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Floyd Staggs (Post 219473)
Okay Gary, you're the math whiz so how does it shake out now? Yeterday was huge for Tony, I think.

I don't know about the math wiz part (although I was correct in figuring Dallas to move up 7 spots). However, there's a good news/bad news deal for Tony in S/S, and Slate in Stock. The good news is that they both paid for their trips, with their Wins!!! The bad however, is neither of them could count the points they earned towards their championship counts, because this was beyond their 6th possible national event. That said, momentum is on their sides for the upcoming divisional.

I wish this wknds race could be televised, because there are several players in both classes who have a shot at No. 1, and I think that this wknds divisional will decide the national championship winners in both Super Stock & Stock. Sorry Floyd, but although Leo can still improve at both of these last two races, he's going to have several people that will love to rain on his parade, and he won't be able to avoid all of them.

In Super Stock, it's going to be a five horse race between Ryan, Lincoln, Tony, Sal, and Bryan, with Lincoln having the edge since he can improve on a 72pt national event race @ Pomona.

In Stock, there's nine horses in their race who can take the top spot (From Brad, down to Leo), and although Leo has the advantage having 2 more races he can improve on, he needs a lot of round wins to catch/overtake Brad, and there's too many others in the way who can keep him from doing that? Momentum is on Slates side, but with Edmund, Dallas, Jody, and even Brad there (amongst one or two others), it's going to be an uphill battle for him (Leo that is)???

This is going to be a great race to read up on!!!! :)

Floyd Staggs 11-01-2010 04:37 PM

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Gary, as far as I'm concerned you are the math wiz.
This weekend coming up is going to be hugh. I'll be right there rooting for both Ryan and Leo. It will be especially cool since I'll be driving my truck. If Ryan wants some extra practice with the trans brake he can drive my truck and I'll just watch with Brian and Gary.

Tracy Robbins 11-01-2010 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by cody pollage (Post 219461)
Two finals in two weeks in Stock, he also went to the finals last weekend in Super Stock in Noble.

You're right, I forgot about that one! Even more momentum...my money would be on Slate for Stock w/out a doubt.

countrypuppy4865 11-01-2010 07:02 PM

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According to my math Slate and Edmond are the only two with a very good chance to pass Brad. None of the others in the top 10 can mathematically pass Brad.

Floyd Staggs 11-01-2010 07:06 PM

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Thanks Gary, as far as I'm concered, you are the math wiz.
Next weekend is going to be extra fun since I'll be there competing and rooting for my friends. Ryan is my buddy but Leo is a good friend too. I'd sure like to see both of them do extra good. Maybe I'll let Ryan drive my truck so he can get the trans brake practice. That would keep his mind occupied.

The Hawk 11-01-2010 08:06 PM

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The way things sit,one in the top ten can catch the leader besides Cummings and Richardson,one outside of the top 10 has a chance as well. It all depends on the rounds won this weekend.

GarysZ24 11-01-2010 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Lane M Weber (Post 219581)
The way things sit,one in the top ten can catch the leader besides Cummings and Richardson,one outside of the top 10 has a chance as well. It all depends on the rounds won this weekend.

Thanks Lane, you echoed my point, because Slate came from somewhere in the top 20 to all of the sudden having a great shot at winning it all! Furthermore, anyone who's within 104pts. of 1st place can take the title, provided those ahead of him/her stumble soon enough that they don't get to add anymore points to their count, and that racer wins the race....anythings possible, and it'll be exciting to watch!

G Schenck 11-01-2010 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by countrypuppy4865 (Post 219569)
According to my math Slate and Edmond are the only two with a very good chance to pass Brad. None of the others in the top 10 can mathematically pass Brad.

Cooter, Tyler and Jody also have a shot. For Jody to win, Brad would have to lose first rd. and Slate and Edmond would have to lose by the second rd. Jody would have to win the race and Tyler could not go more than four rounds at Pomona.
Another six days and we'll have a better idea.lol

Greg

countrypuppy4865 11-01-2010 08:40 PM

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I stand corrected. Jody has to win to pass Brad by 1 point. Tyler has to go to the finals to pass Brad. Jody is done if Brad wins first round and Tyler needs Brad to go out by 3rd round.

The Hawk 11-01-2010 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by G Schenck (Post 219586)
Cooter, Tyler and Jody also have a shot. For Jody to win, Brad would have to lose first rd. and Slate and Edmond would have to lose by the second rd. Jody would have to win the race and Tyler could not go more than four rounds at Pomona.
Another six days and we'll have a better idea.lol

Greg

For either Tyler or Jody to take the lead,they`d have to win their final race they claim points at. If the top three improve on their standings,Tyler and Jody are out and it`s up to Brad,Slate,Edmond and Leo`s final two races to decide the title.

GarysZ24 11-01-2010 11:54 PM

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Here goes my math again:

The best Leo can finish the points season with nationally, is 626 (that's what he'd end up with if he wins these last two races).

Brads best count will be 666...he'd have to win the divisional.
Slates best count is 646.
Edmonds magic number is 643.
Toby's is 594, again provided he wins the final two races.
Jody's is 592
If only Dusty Lowell were out there, because his magic number is 633...WHERE'S DUSTY?
Tyler's magic number is 612.

Therefore, if any of those numbers are reached (on the lower end), and the higher numbers aren't improved on, who knows what can happen???

Floyd Staggs 11-02-2010 09:38 AM

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The spoiler out there might be Ryan. He's driving good and the Camaro is spot on. He could spoil some chances. The ladder is going to be critical.


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