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There's nothing unique about SS/AH except the body style and being limited to one class. A SS/AH engine could be put in a 64-65 B body Hemi car and be legal to race SS. However the same cannot be said about a 64-65 Hemi in a SS/AH car. Aluminum hemi heads are not allowed in '68.

PS The weird stuff is now legal.

Travis Miller

(Disclaimer: Opinions expressed by me on this forum are exactly that, my opinions.)

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[QUOTE=blkjack;224753]Which Hemi is the most impressive?


To me, Wescot's car.

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one word.......VIDEO!!!!!!!

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Very impressive to say the least, I was around for the Dart and Cuda debut and I thought those cars running in the 10s was sick, this is outrageous, 8.22 at a buck-sixty and change, geez-louise.:eek:




SuperStocks@LionsDragStrip

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I don't know how to link it here, but go to youtube and type in Westcott 8.22. Way to go jr!!!!!

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OK.....Thanks Travis. LOL on the NOW legal.

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Tremendous!

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That is a bad boy. almost 163 mph. Gary Jennings chassis, just barely got the front wheels up and flew, just like a pro stocker..

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Good run, but it shouldn't of counted. You can't burn across the starting line in Superstock or Stock eliminator.

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Congrats Charlie! Love to see that stick car get the record from Daniels and the Bartons!

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people just have to bitch about something i guess. Maybe his 8.25 from the previous day is good enough for you

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I was curious about that also .

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Check it out:

David Barton's post on Moparts.com

Here is Charlie's 8.22 run. Great run, congratulations to the Westcott's. Good thing I didn't bet Hebert.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BeHJOYkx0_8

We couldn't manage to keep Daniel's car hooked up for one single run. Here is an in-car shot.........you can hear the tires break loose before the 1/8th. While spinning in high gear he managed to run an 8.28 and an 8.29, but couldn't compete with Westcott's .22. Looks like we have some chassis issues to work out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H95UXmKJ8eg

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hey if there was anybody writing down times or you was there on Sat and can prove what number you ran, contact me as there is nothing in data for Valdosta except for Sunday elimination runs to go into stats. If i don't hear from anybody by Weds I'm going with just the elimination runs only.
I do have these runs
Westcotts 8.221
Daniels 8.25

I'm trying to get a hold of record sheet to at least include those runs.
Stats goes to Howell's on Weds.

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He broke a rule on video. Was that rule suspended for the weekend or what?

It is a valid question.

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..http://i683.photobucket.com/albums/v...g?t=1290993463Mr. Teuton, I met you in Bowling Green. We talked abou the PS Wheels for your Drag Pack. Are you sure about this though?

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I was standing behind the guy with the video camera, behind the wall. He let off the throttle about 6 feet before the car crossed the starting line. Everyone there saw it. The video makes it look as if he burned out across the line but he did not! Jim

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Valid question, but if I remember right. Divisional/Open event burnout limitations are at the discretion of the event director.

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Seeing as David B was video taping the run, I am sure if they thought it gave Charlie some type of advantage there would have been a formal protest filed.

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That is the biggest bs rule there is!! I think Super Stockers should be allowed to burnout across the starting line, especially if the track is questionable when others are spinning! I did it at the Gators a few years ago after 3 in a row blew the tires off in front of me! It got Rick Stewart out of his chair. But I hooked!

Oh, and congrats Charlie on a great run!

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I think all cars should be required to burn past the starting line under power, and if you can't do it, you're out.

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I would pay to see you do a long smokey burnout in the Turismo.

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Amazing how some of you will always find something to bitch about. Do you guys cry and whine about everything else in life as well? May be we should have a "Dr Phil" forum on here so you can all cry to him and he will make you feel better. We can get Kleenex to sponsor it.


Great run Charlie, next time do a burnout to the 1/8th mile marker and give everyone the #1 salute as you roll back!

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well beard i would be out... if i tried id hook 3 foot past the water and with this damn new 3 speed id have to shift before the starting line :)

captain jack
wish i had gone just to see how fast my car is !

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6 feet or 6 inches? LOL Well, i could really care less...but, if you pause the video right as you hear the car hookup (before letting off and clutching the car) look at the location of the car and the photo cells along the wall (which don't move) lol

As far as the run itself, VERY impressive and congratulations! :cool:

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I could not get ahold of a qualifying sheet. But, I was standing next to both cars during those runs in question. What I saw.

Westcott
Fri 1 run 8.39 160+
Sat Run 1 8.25 160+
Run 2 8.25 160+ got REAL LOOSE around 3rd gear.
Sun Run 1 8.22 160+

Daniels
Sat Run 1 8.25 157+
Run 2 8.50? Spun in 3rd gear...That run it was flying would have been the run to beat.
Sun Run 1 Spun?

The track on Sat was real, real cold and there were major problems with bald spots and cars spinning. There were S/C dragsters blowing the tires off at the start. Westcott was the first car out every time. Also on Westcotts last run it is hard to see on the video but the water box was half way to the starting line. So cars were going a little farther with there burnouts. Great runs by both racers. Fun to watch.

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I think daniels went 28, then shut off on 2nd saturday run, Than went 29 sunday. I am sure My (new) buddy David will get us all up to speed. Obviously that race was enjoyable for me cause things worked out for a change, but I would like to say that I have more fun at D2 events than anywhere else I ever go. Very laid back, 3 runs on saturday, and than cause some guys didnt get to back up their records on saturday, they gave everyone else another run on sunday. I have never seen that, you are lucky to get 2 runs at a D1 event. The track was prepped well as far as I was concerned, I think the guys with alot of power, and radials were having trouble down track, I never had any at all. They had T/S and T/D cars there, and for whatever reason it didnt take as long as it does usually, no crashes, do drama, and alot less staff than most races I have been to. I never met the new DD, but a couple people told me, including the staff I asked about it, that he is a great guy. I look forward to running down there again, and its too bad they dont have a sports national or something at that track. That would be killer, sportsnat at No Problem, and Valdosta, and no columbus.
later
cw

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There's a pic over here... http://classracer.com/classforum/showthread.php?t=29939 Seriously fun! :D (Ok, so it wouldn't make it over the line, but still fun!)

Hey, they could save some paper (or KB for the digital version) if they'd just delete all those silly rules from the rulebook that nobody really cares about anyway. We should get rid of the 6" height requirement for competition numbers on side windows, since most people don't have them that big anyway. What other rules do we want to vote out or just ignore? Can I get them to rescind the blue light and deep stage my car? After all, it'd just be whining if you had a problem with somebody deep staging. All it does is hurt themselves anyway, right? Shouldn't you be able to run Super Street and another class? I mean that's just stupid. I shouldn't need grade points, either. I'll just pay at the gate at the next national. Courtesy staging? Nah. Who cares what they said for lane choice?

Have rules, or don't have rules.

It was anywhere from mid 40's to 60 degrees from 10am - 6:30pm. That's going to be typical for this time of year, and I've run plenty of races in those temps and colder where the track was very good. If the track surface isn't working in those conditions, you either need a different compound, or different application thereof.

Why? Take control of the situation. Control the amount of water in the box, direct racers where to stop and start, etc. The better the burnout box and starting line are managed, the better they stay, and the easier they are to maintain. (Yes, I have worked the line before)


Back on topic: Those Hemi runs and videos were un-be-lievable! :eek: Awesome display, guys!

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Michael, the way you save space, I bet you rewind adding machine paper and use the other side.

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[. Also on Westcotts last run it is hard to see on the video but the water box was half way to the starting line. So cars were going a little farther with there burnouts. Great runs by both racers. Fun to watch.[/QUOTE]

Charlie also pulled 5 to 6 feet past any water that was in the water box when he did his burnout (as shown clearly in the video provided for us)

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If you all want to start a class action letter about my burnout, than get started on it. I pulled out of the water cause the guy sprayed the hose in the box EVERY TIME a car pulled out of it, I never got the tires to hook out of the water once unless I went forward more than normal. The track was cold, and the water trailed 6 feet out of the box. I think its funny that people want to bitch about this, and I have seen 2 or 3 hemi cars this year go 150+ with no parachutes on, and that doesnt seem to be an issue. One of them won a race this year.
I won a piece of paper.
later
cw

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Charlie, If some people don't bitch about something or another , they think there life is over ! Nice pass, It looks like real fun...........John

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Good for you, all that water that close to the start line is a pain in the *** anyway.

Have watched you over the past years and you got it together my man.
GO GET EM !!!!!

Jack Arnew

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Very impressive. Ignore them.

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Section 2 - Race Procedures
Page 2.1

Divisional event burnout limitations
are at the discretion of the event director.

I assume that would go the same for Opens.

No qualifying sheet from this race? Anybody getting horsepower?

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Mike: good point.. discretion of event director

Charlie: ignore them....much ado about nothing

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I totally agree, Charlie was just adapting to the track conditions and too much water being put down. I was just reading prior comments and analyzing a video, that's all...

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According to the 2009 rulebook, page 41, it specifies at National Events (only) S/S, Stk, SG and SSt cannot burn across the starting line.

I also noticed what seemed to be way too much water in the burnout box.

Good job Charlie. That run was impressive. Your clutch tuner deserves a raise.

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Andy Stone 1102 A/S 1112 SS/C