Re: thanks IHRA nitro jam --- no stock/ss at several races!
 

I was waiting for that!

Re: thanks IHRA nitro jam --- no stock/ss at several races!
 

The Nitro Jam event that will be held at SIR in Tucson and other locations is not an IHRA event. It is a Feld Entertainment event....and there is a difference.

Re: thanks IHRA nitro jam --- no stock/ss at several races!
 

has anyone else talked to IHRA or the folks at Pittsburgh about this matter?

Re: thanks IHRA nitro jam --- no stock/ss at several races!
 

Well, aren't you just a ray of sunshine!

Guess you don't want to talk about the all the issues NHRA has, like traction at Phoenix, sportsman racers at Gainesville a few years back.....I could go on & on. It's not an easy job for either sanctioning body. Let NHRA become the only game in town and we'll see if things would get any better.

Re: thanks IHRA nitro jam --- no stock/ss at several races!
 

Times are tough, both sanctioning bodies have their strong points and weak points, and I see both sides. You are obviously one-sided slamming IHRA without admitting to NHRA's "circus". Biggest problem IHRA has is the lack of support from more NHRA regulars. We'll see if NHRA makes it through the year without any more controversey. They have a pretty good track record in the last few years.


.....or were you just quoting Doug Herbert's opinion, but not necessarily yours?

Re: thanks IHRA nitro jam --- no stock/ss at several races!
 

Since this is a Stock/SS forum, let's stick to Stock/SS. One of the reasons for the lack of support from more NHRA regulars may have to do with the fact that some of the IHRA "regulars" have a tough time making it through a real teardown.

To sorta quote you...They have a pretty lousy track record in the last few years (when it comes to teardown).

Re: thanks IHRA nitro jam --- no stock/ss at several races!
 

Excuse me? What "fact" is that? What IHRA regulars are having a tough time making it through teardown? Your assertion is not only incorrect, but offensive. I know guys like Myron and I go through almost every year.

Sorry, don't buy it. The NHRA regulars didn't come when IHRA was at its height and teardowns were more regular, either. The people that come over and race in IHRA generally enjoy themselves. Those that don't simply don't WANT to, for whatever reason. That's their decision, their loss. Enough blowing smoke.

Re: thanks IHRA nitro jam --- no stock/ss at several races!
 

Some of you need something else to do, what a bunch of crap. Do you hear Dan Fletcher bitchen? No he runs both where and when he can fit it in his schedule. l

Re: thanks IHRA nitro jam --- no stock/ss at several races!
 

Original topic....no stock/ super stock @ Pittsburgh ,We don't go! Why I don't go to the points meets @ Maple Grove and the Dutch Classic,...they can't get everything done in 3 days. I can run IHRA points meet saturday and sunday and finish 2 complete races...I don't care about cars counts,more classes,.ect.ect. I'll repete, I get 2 races in !

Re: thanks IHRA nitro jam --- no stock/ss at several races!
 

Like to hear more about these ,supposed,IHRA racers not passing tech. Iknow the Worners,Fletchers,Linkes,Bagley,Cupp and others have had no problems. So who has it been?

Re: thanks IHRA nitro jam --- no stock/ss at several races!
 

Sorry Mr. Beard, I guess I did not make myself clear. You are correct that IHRA regulars make it through IHRA teardowns with no problem.

However over the years, three of the IHRA champions did NOT make it through NHRA checks and/or teardowns. The following are the facts;

S/S racer #1 who is a multi time IHRA event winner was caught at a NHRA race with a hidden delay box in use in his car.

S/S racer #2 who is a multi time IHRA event winner was DQ'd not once but two years in a row in NHRA teardowns with flagrant illegal engine modifications.

Stock racer #3 who is a multi time IHRA event winner was DQ'd from a NHRA event when it was discovered in teardown that he was using a disguised aftermarket intake manifold.

All three were not only disqualified but were given stiff time off penalties of varying lengths. Giving these individuals the benefit of the doubt for your sake Mr Beard, maybe these racers only used seriously illegal modifications at NHRA races. But it sure does make one wonder, doesn't it?

Re: thanks IHRA nitro jam --- no stock/ss at several races!
 

As well they should. Got problems with individuals? That's fine. Direct your ire at them. You made some pretty broad assertions in your previous post.

Re: thanks IHRA nitro jam --- no stock/ss at several races!
 

Super Sport, you start throwing strong statements around perhaps you need to use your real name....

Looking at your post history shows more of the same...

Re: thanks IHRA nitro jam --- no stock/ss at several races!
 

I know of all three cars you mention. I caught one of these clowns about 11 or 12 years ago myself. The other 2 cars are owned by the same individual but had another driver in the seat. The best way to stop it is to ban them for life or just hang them for what they were caught doing. Sometimes the higher ups wont let you do that. Blame the system.....Not the tech crew. Its called "Politics" ! Using these two idiots who own the 3 cars as an example for this post is grasping at straws to make NHRA look like they can walk on water. This is NOT the case. How many NHRA cars have been caught over the years and the racers are still at it ? A lot of this crap is swept under the rug. A few that I know of but wont mention by name as I get the inside info from time to time and dont want to lose my conections.

Re: thanks IHRA nitro jam --- no stock/ss at several races!
 

There is a TOC race at Pitt. later in the year. The NitroJam is being run as a pro only show with a bracket race involved. By the time the Pro parking is established and the Spectator area is done, there will most likely actually hopefully not be much room left. This has nothing to do (in my opinion) with not wanting class racers involved at an IHRA race. Hope everyone shows up for the TOC race later in the year and thanks for the support.

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S/S
If that is true use your real name and post the drivers names. If not go back to sleep and let the grown ups talk.

If you want you can alwasys come to an IHRA race with a pocket full of protest money.
Chip

Re: thanks IHRA nitro jam --- no stock/ss at several races!
 

Marc... you are wrong.... their is plenty of room at Pittsburgh, the pits have been only half full for each of the past points meets.

Also, we'll be at the TOC qualifier.... but it pays 1/3 of what the nitro jam pays....

It's selfish for me because it's my closest track (ihra or nhra)

Re: thanks IHRA nitro jam --- no stock/ss at several races!
 

I recently called the IHRA and spoke to someone with respect and received a half hour detailed explanation as to why there will be no class cars @ the Pitts nitro jam. I understand fully why it was done and look forward to the other races. If racers are unhappy with the events, do not always blame the sanctions, look @ the racers next to you an ask why aren't they attending these races, keeping the car counts up and so on (every racer has Bulls@#$ excuses). So many times racers make judgements about IHRA without knowing all of the facts.

"Put brain in gear before engaging mouth".


Richard
SS/EM

Re: thanks IHRA nitro jam --- no stock/ss at several races!
 

I've got a better idea. You few continue to run the IHRA races. The majority will run the NHRA races. We'll let the tech guys decide who needs to go to teardown.

Re: thanks IHRA nitro jam --- no stock/ss at several races!
 

would you care to elaborate on what they said?

Re: thanks IHRA nitro jam --- no stock/ss at several races!
 

SS,
That is typical. You come on here and accuse people of cheating without posting your name or anyone else.
Chip

Re: thanks IHRA nitro jam --- no stock/ss at several races!
 

Michael have ever noticed the one's always starting the crap don't use their real names?

Re: thanks IHRA nitro jam --- no stock/ss at several races!
 

Hey Terry the delay box deal was 14 years ago, and if a guy is a "hired gun" its not his fault the car he was driving is illegal unless he builds the motors. Grow some BALLS and post with your real name if your going to accuse someone like you did.

As for NH-IH, as a former track operator all the bashing does is piss everyone off to the point why would anyone want to help you guys, oh yea I'm a die hard Stock SS racer at heart and my son will be in a stocker in 2 years when he is done with Jr's so I'm not bashing a group I dont race with. The bottom line is a race has to make money, if an event cant stand on its own it wont be here much longer. Car counts are down and racers you need to see the track operators side because without respect for them there wont be a place to race in 5 years.

Herb Jr