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Ed Fernandez 01-15-2011 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Ed Fernandez (Post 233296)
And how long and how much work went into getting the old combos to go 1.25 under.
Now you plunk your money down and in most cases (not all) send the car to some shop to get all the "enhancements" fitted in,and to beat all get a 150HP + advantage to start.And in the case of the Mustangs run the car at less than WOT and run amok over all the old combos.
I've been witness to a Drag Pak build over the past year and it in no way does it resemble what anyone in their right mind would consider being a stocker.
Maybe that's why people have a problem with these new combinations?
Well Herb?

Ed Wright 01-15-2011 10:52 PM
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Ed, do ya really want to hear it? Do you really care? Lol

herbjr 01-16-2011 08:19 PM
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Ed why are you calling me out? I mean last I checked you dont have a drag pack car in your class? Do you have an issue here? I mean Ill bet we can get chrysler to put a STR4 engine in a challenger and have it run T/SA. After all there are a few in Comp right now.

Ed Wright 01-16-2011 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by herbjr (Post 233619)
Ed why are you calling me out? I mean last I checked you dont have a drag pack car in your class? Do you have an issue here? I mean Ill bet we can get chrysler to put a STR4 engine in a challenger and have it run T/SA. After all there are a few in Comp right now.
You need to check again.

Ed Fernandez 01-17-2011 12:28 AM
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Originally Posted by herbjr (Post 233619)
Ed why are you calling me out? I mean last I checked you dont have a drag pack car in your class? Do you have an issue here? I mean Ill bet we can get chrysler to put a STR4 engine in a challenger and have it run T/SA. After all there are a few in Comp right now.
Because for a guy who doesn't race NHRA (you) has a lot to say about the way they choose to apply the rules we (those who do race NHRA) have to live by.

Peter Ash 01-17-2011 02:48 AM
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Originally Posted by jmcarter (Post 233358)
Oh that's the new Chevy Volter, rated by NHRA at 100 watts, only drawback is extra bank of generators to recharge between rounds. Fits only AAA and AA stock so thank goodness I'm safe in G/SA.

Carefull now, they may come out with a G cell battery.

Ed Wright 01-17-2011 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Ed Fernandez (Post 233665)
Because for a guy who doesn't race NHRA (you) has a lot to say about the way they choose to apply the rules we (those who do race NHRA) have to live by.
Thank you!

herbjr 01-18-2011 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Ed Fernandez (Post 233665)
Because for a guy who doesn't race NHRA (you) has a lot to say about the way they choose to apply the rules we (those who do race NHRA) have to live by.

Yes HP is a complaint on here but the cost of these cars is the main issue with people. My issue is dont complain about a guy who has worked his *** off to make enough money to spend it on what he loves. Now I'm not racing now, My boys are 15 and 11 and race Jr dragsters. I'm 100% devoted to them and out of 21 races this year we got 6 wins, 3 ru and 8 Semi's. I'm having a hell of a lot more fun than 99% of the class racers who post on here and I'm doing it with my boys. My dad's shop is where we work on the cars and we have a GREAT TIME.

How many of you racers can say you really have a good time doing this sport. And oh yea we dont have a new car, new motors, we use 10 year old technology on the clutch we run, we are out $$$ buy 90% of the Jr operations at the track but Ill bet we have 200% more fun than anyone.

Now after saying that, My son will be in a stocker some this year, and in 2012 for sure. I wont have a drag pack because I cant afford one, if we get out run heads up then who gives a sxxt, I'm doing what I love with my boys, PRICELESS.

Herb Jr

Sorry I dont race NHRA right now, Ive decided my boys are more important.

Ed Wright 01-18-2011 11:23 AM
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I couldn't care less what they cost. Just correct the hp numbers. I can afford one, but can't justify spending it. Too close to retirement.

art leong 01-18-2011 11:38 AM
Re: V10 - has it been to quiet
 
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Originally Posted by herbjr (Post 233619)
Ed why are you calling me out? I mean last I checked you dont have a drag pack car in your class? Do you have an issue here? I mean Ill bet we can get chrysler to put a STR4 engine in a challenger and have it run T/SA. After all there are a few in Comp right now.
It would run a little higher than T .
The 4 cylinder Mopars in comp are using the sprint car motors (a sawed in half longways V8). It is a pushrod motor that has nothing in common with the SRT4 blocks.
I've talked to the comp guys about using a motor like mine but they don't think they could get a car light enough. (146 cubes)

herbjr 01-18-2011 11:42 AM
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I talked to the guy with the opel at Indy, LAA, that is a cheaper way to go comp racing for sure. And Aragona in his GED has been .70 under with his.

Herb Jr

X-TECH MAN 01-18-2011 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by herbjr (Post 233930)
Yes HP is a complaint on here but the cost of these cars is the main issue with people. My issue is dont complain about a guy who has worked his *** off to make enough money to spend it on what he loves. Now I'm not racing now, My boys are 15 and 11 and race Jr dragsters. I'm 100% devoted to them and out of 21 races this year we got 6 wins, 3 ru and 8 Semi's. I'm having a hell of a lot more fun than 99% of the class racers who post on here and I'm doing it with my boys. My dad's shop is where we work on the cars and we have a GREAT TIME.

How many of you racers can say you really have a good time doing this sport. And oh yea we dont have a new car, new motors, we use 10 year old technology on the clutch we run, we are out $$$ buy 90% of the Jr operations at the track but Ill bet we have 200% more fun than anyone.

Now after saying that, My son will be in a stocker some this year, and in 2012 for sure. I wont have a drag pack because I cant afford one, if we get out run heads up then who gives a sxxt, I'm doing what I love with my boys, PRICELESS.

Herb Jr

Sorry I dont race NHRA right now, Ive decided my boys are more important.
WRONG on the DP assesment.....I dont think anyone cares how much they cost. Spend what you want. Throw it all away for all anyone cares. Just get the damn HP factors correct on the DP's AND the Mustangs plus a few of the old cars and the bitching will stop or at least slow down to a trickel.

Ed Wright 01-18-2011 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN (Post 233941)
WRONG on the DP assesment.....I dont think anyone cares how much they cost. Spend what you want. Throw it all away for all anyone cares. Just get the damn HP factors correct on the DP's AND the Mustangs plus a few of the old cars and the bitching will stop or at least slow down to a trickel.
There ya go!

Andys dad 01-18-2011 01:38 PM
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This is an old joke - Do not take it wrong - just thought I would inject some hummor for a change.

"Do you know the difference between a puppy and a drag racer? The puppy will learn to quit whinning"

Sorry I thought that was funny when I first heard it many, many years ago.

Seems we have been complaining about things for as long as I can remember. # of runs at meets - new classes being added - old classes being removed - FI cars - tear downs - assembly weigth - trick heads - after market parts - incorrect HP (before all of the new cars) - AHFS system being unfair - the list is long and distinguished

"Its always something" - Rosanna Dana

Mark Yacavone 01-18-2011 02:07 PM
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Drag racers will never quit winning or whining..

" whinning" ??? Don't know

Ed Fernandez 01-18-2011 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by herbjr (Post 233936)
I talked to the guy with the opel at Indy, LAA, that is a cheaper way to go comp racing for sure. And Aragona in his GED has been .70 under with his.

Herb Jr
Ask Alan Armstrong and Frankie how much "cheaper" it is to run their combos in Comp.
Maybe cheap compared to running a T/F car.
That L/LA car was Alan's,who by the way did all the R&D on the chassis,engine etc.They bought a winning combo to start.No reflection on him (Yediny) but if he had to start from scratch his costs would probably equal the GDP of some small third world countries.


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