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These guys just dont get it Charley! I guess up here in div.3 we just think a little diffrently than the rest of the "racers" on here. Ru coming to the open at muncie? If not see ya at the indy pts meet.We can sit around and have a few laughs about these no race a..clowns on here!

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Arnold your not saying that the winning Top Stock 67 Camero had FUNNY GAS are you?

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BTW do u own a race car!? Or did your daddy let u drive his? So now its yours!????? I have had a stocker of my own that i bought with my money,i sold it to go do other things. My dad has a stocker that i have drove so i guess thats considered ownership in your mind huh chad!? Keep dreaming everybody has them! Just like a..holes and opinions!

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Hi, Larry. Hope you and Patsy are well.

I'm sure you remember the deal, as well as the comp eliminator short block. I remember the GM guy almost croaked when he saw it at teardown. But what had been done was done and nothing was done about. Kinda like now..........

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you obviously don't know much about the state of Florida. From where I am at, houston is closer than West Palm or Immokalee and bradenton is a toss up. And yes, asshole I do own a car, dad owns one too. I can obviously outrun your *** because the only thing you race is your mouth. I could never beat you at that. As for racing IHRA vs NHRA, it has nothing to do with level of competition. it has everything to do with being fed up with the way NHRA treats sportsman racers (hell look at the screwing Comp is getting in Bradenton, just so they can lose money on some bracket cars). But if you'd like to post your REAL name (if you can spell it), then we can sit down at the end of the year and see who wins more rounds.

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tell you what, since you're so ****ing great, bring a car to the Bowling Green combos this summer. I WILL BE THERE, will you?

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Hmmm. Can't make it to any in your home state, but you are going to drive clear up to Kentucky for a S/SS combo race that means...nothing? With a plan like that, no wonder you are so successful at dragging.

If *BIG IF* you make it - Challenge Accepted! Call NHRA, get the promotors involved, this could be bigger than the Snake vs. Mongoose rivalry. Better start practicing a$$clown, you're gonna need it! You dreamers are too easy to get a rise out of! This is the cheapest form of entertainment going these days.

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my reason for going is simple. I can leave the car at a friend's up there, it pays out pretty good for the entry fee, and there is no D2 or D4 racing down here during the summer ( one IHRA race in San antonio i think). BTW bowling green=7 hours, bradenton=8, you need a geography lesson.

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Yes I know but they (NASCAR) have been doing fine all this time with out FI. It will be interesting as now the "HAVES" will really be faster than the "HAVE NOTS" with more factory backing in place.
If FI is so wonderful why havent the Pro Stockers been allowed to use it and get rid of those UGLY hood scoops?

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Stocker my ***...NHRA has bent over backwards for Ford and Mopar to the point that stock is not even stock anymore. I think I am going to stick with the IHRA racing. Yea, like a freakin stock Mustang is going to run freakin 8's.

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I believe the reason FI has not come to NHRA Pro Stock is NHRA has no one with a clue on how to Police it if it were allowed.
They have enough trouble with the other classes.
Just My 2 Cents
Rick Cates

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Already been corrected.

Also, when you have racing as tight as in Pro Stock, why change it? And, I make my living tuning EFI.

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Hey Chad, Yea Baton Rouge Friday. Can't hardly wait. See you there. I'm only one hour drive. Go every year since they started. Great event. I'll bring you a Turbo Dog to your trailer. And I ain't no *cking spectator b.d.d.

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I noticed that some on here are quick to call somone moron and whine and complain and bitch about everything. Looking forward to seeing you at the Southern Sports Nats Ed, I guess you will see who is the moron then.

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Go racing wherever u want Chad,and best of luck! I like messing with u guys on here,its entertaining to me!Dont take it so personal! I meen nothing by it! I have been involved with stk elim racing over 20 yrs and i do have my own opinion about things,rite or wrong. We do agree about a few things actually,the new cars are bogus on the hp rating,but ford,mopar ect are in buisness to sell cars and they give nhra alot of money and nhra gives them bogus hp numbers! Hang in there it will eventually work itself out.Until then peace!

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Only thing you see me whining and complaining about is the same thing you were whining about, new cars in the wring class due to bogus hp ratings.

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Okay, Ed at least we agree about that. The second thing we need to agree about is: Where I live and was raised, if you insult someone especially by slurring them or calling the some lame name, you better be ready to back it up. You will never hear ,me in person or on here, ever call someone some lame name. That's just not the way to do things. Just because I don't put my real name on this INTERNET SITE, doesn't mean that people don't know me or that I haven't met and don't know alot of the racers that visit this site. I just like being sneaky, just like a stock racer. See you at the Southern Sports Nats; Hope you can make it. And yes, even though I am a true Mopar Man, I can't stand seeing the class being corrupted by cars that Ma Mopar doesn't even sell to the public, just like the stock rules say.

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Randall and Arnold are correct and yes Dan Dvorak did have it right years ago and some of us just didn't see it. I do now.

I actually did go out and purchase one of the 2008 Cobra Jets but once I thought about how absurd the whole under factored crate motor bull**** was, I just threw a cover over it and shoved it in the corner. The car will make 900hp with stock camshafts so what is there to prove? What's new today will be old tomorrow with the stroke of a pen and different part numbers.

Underrated crate motor cars, no meaningful tear downs, and the AHFS are killing these eliminators yet some of you are in denial about what is really happening. Killer air in Bradenton and no one even tries to set a record? Might as well run Unleashed because that's exactly where this is going.

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X 2....Thank you for telling it like it really is ! FINALLY someone who owns one has the balls to speak out on this bogus crap being forced down everyones throats.

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Yes sir !!

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So true and yet so sad.I believe the fighting and whineing on here will help to the early demise.Thanks for shareing

Kevin

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Come on Craig, tell me how you really feel. Lol

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Chad,

I actually cleaned it up pretty good, don't you think?

Craig

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yes, yes you did.

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Craig quit stretching the truth. Your 2008 motor will not make 900hp with stk cams. Your car makes around 650 stk. The SS cars I drive just barely make 900HP with a big blower and SS style cams. Also tell everyone how much work it is to make a 2008 CJ a True stocker. You did not want to modify your car from its original form. That is why you are not race it.

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You mean like meet emission standards at one point in its life and licensed for the street? Then to go back an put it in Stock Eliminator trim....that would be a ton of work! :eek:

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Craigs 69 427 @ 1 under is 25 times more impressive than a Blown mustang @ 2 under. Both cars are cool but I'd take the 69 hands down. I think no matter how fast a DP/Ford runs nobody really cares. Except on a heads up....

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Hey Dgal, you really think a '69 Camaro would pass today's emissions?

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Dgal
The 2008 CJ was not a full blown race car like the 2010's. The 2008 had a ford factory stick shift trans, along with many other parts that needed to be changed before it could run like the two that were at U.S. Nationals this year.

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Nope, but it did at the time it was produced. That is the point.

I am asking because I don't know for sure and cannot think of one until the admission of the Drag Paks and Cobra Jets by the NHRA into Stock Eliminator. Can you name any other combo, prior those two, that didn't meet emissions and licensing for the street at the time produced?

Don Galanis

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Charley,

I understand that was the point you were trying to make, but you threw in the term "True Stocker." That was what I was focusing on.

It is a matter of how one defines "True Stocker." I understand that the only opinion that carries weight is the NHRA. It is my opinion that a "True Stocker" would meet the emission standards and be licensed for the street at the time the combo was released. The spirit of Stock Eliminator.

Anything less than that would be a Super Stocker (ala '68 Hemi Cuda/Darts).

Don Galanis

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The CJ that my family owns could be licensed and insured for street use. Would be interesting to see if it passed emissions. I'll bet it would be closer than you think, if not pass. The only thing that NHRA screwed up on is the h.p. factors. There has been "bogus" combos allowed quite a few times over the years by Not Held Responsible Anytime!!

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As far as emissions goes a 69 Camaro, never had to pass an emissions check. Neither did a Street Hemi, or a Max Wedge.
And I think with the right programmer you could get the new cars past.
Remember they are electronicly controlled.

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Don the big problem here is everyone has their own idea as to what "stock" constitutes.
My idea was you use stock factory parts. I did that with my FWD stockers and nobody seemed to appreciate it.

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Charley,

The 2008 FR500CJ needs the following to race which I have brand new on pallets:

1. Drag race struts and shocks. The rears are too short and the fronts are too stiff. I had a custom set of Konis built by Truechoice for the car. Would you like to buy them?

2. Racing transmission from Joel, same Factory supplier of the 2010 CJ. I have a new trans, bellhousing, ATI converter, Turbo Action shifter and all the other stuff one needs to race.

3. Factory roll bar finished into a cage

4. Radials

5. The 4:10 factory gear is plenty once a good program is loaded into the car.

6. The engine is basically the same as a 2010 with a little smaller throttle body and a little less blower and of course different part numbers. All the current National records are held by 2008 cars just in case you haven't looked lately.

7. The 900 hp is not accurate. It was actually 979hp on a certain Ford suppliers dyno. I have atmospheric street cars that make more than 650hp on pump gas. You may be a little low.

So you need about $7,500.00- $10,000.00 extra dollars to go 9.30's. That's not so bad is it?

Any other questions?

You're in denial and I'm not referring to the river in Egypt.

Craig

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My mistake then. I thought the CJs were off road use only (no VIN). It appears that you are verifying they were not. Seriously, do you know of any that wouldn't meet emission standards at the time or preventing them from being licensed for the street (ie: safety standards, VIN, etc...)?

Don Galanis

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I understand that, but those were the standards at the time released. They also met requirements to be licensed on the street. It seems like such a simple concept to me.

If it takes what appears to be a Super Stocker to beat us in a head's up race then so be it. I wouldn't be proud to win that way, but again that is my opinion.

Don Galanis

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By the way, that is my last post on this thread because I've made my point.

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The '68 Hemi Cuda/Dart used stock factory parts, but they were Super Stock as they should have been. Not sure what you mean by "nobody seemed to appreciate it." It is my understanding that many here (me included) are quite impressed with what you have been able to accomplish with your combos.

Don Galanis

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I was in the other lane on the run. I was definately a head gasket. started blowing steam out of the headers at half track. Roy never lifted. water was all over the ground after the run on the return road. Must have pushed out a head gasket with the blower pressure. I ran 10.04 on that run and he left me like I was tied to a stump That is one baddddd boy.