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Ed Wright 03-21-2011 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael Beard (Post 247539)
Crate motor's sold. Building an engine for Super Stock GT. So I was wrong on one point... new engine is factored at 275.

Same 275 hp as the factory rating for an LT1 (now 344 in Stock?) except with ten more inches, 11.5-1 instead of the LT1's 10.5-1 comp, much larger (250 cfm) TB, larger valves, larger higher flowing ports, better intake, etc, etc....

Maybe a LITTLE soft, right? LOL

Jim Wahl 03-21-2011 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by James Perrone (Post 247529)
Jim
I dont know the specs on your combo..Our 2 cars are way diffrent.
You Mopar guys get alot of goodies thru Direct Connection.
I gotta go to the swap meet my cars a out dated stocker.LOL
By the way I BUILT MY CAR ..Can you say the same?
Hell Ya I CALLED YOU OUT..Its part of racing .You are real fast.But I never see you race anywhere.Like I said Im going YOU WANNA RACE IN CLASS?
Aspens and Voloras where built with purpose that they were SOFT.
Now Mike you own a IHRA crate motor car?
You dont count.
So Jim and Aspen ....Ya I think you guys have a soft combo..

James, I gotta ask you a serious question. Were you stoned when you wrote this? If you were, that's ok, 'cause in the words of Bob Dylan "everybody must get stoned!". It just seems as though either you aren't very serious about this or you can't comprehend what people are posting here.
I am familiar with your combo but you comment about my combo that you admittedly know nothing about! Hell, you can't even spell the name of the car! For the last time, it's VOLARE'. It's a Plymouth. With a 175/289 360. I have to weigh 104 lbs more than your soft combo. Oh and those Direct Connection valve covers sure make a lot of HP.
You don't see where I race anywhere? Do you read Drag Race Central? Try it. I have 3 Divisionals under my belt so far this year, how many do you have?
Now go fire up another fatty and polish that killer Neva of yours. See you in class. Jim

Jim Wahl 03-21-2011 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Ed Wright (Post 247584)
Same 275 hp as the factory rating for an LT1 (now 344 in Stock?) except with ten more inches, 11.5-1 instead of the LT1's 10.5-1 comp, much larger (250 cfm) TB, larger valves, larger higher flowing ports, better intake, etc, etc....

Maybe a LITTLE soft, right? LOL

Ed I think you are a little confused. Michael isn't talking about the new DP 360 (5.9). He's talking about the 1.88/ 1.60 valve, OEM production head, stock intake, TQ carb engine. Jim

Lew Silverman 03-21-2011 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim Wahl (Post 247597)
it's VOLARE'. It's a Plymouth. With a 175/289 360.

A picture's worth a thousand words!

Lew

Michael Beard 03-21-2011 06:26 PM

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Actually no, Jim, I *am* talking about the 5.9L Dragpak motor.

Nice pics, Lew! Hey, is that a '77 Nova? :rolleyes: :p LOL

And Ed, it's more than a little soft... and that's *precisely* why I'm building it. I'm not here to blow smoke up anyone's rear. I can't afford to NOT build it. I'm building it to live, to footbrake it, to beat the snot out of it double-entered three times a week, and to put it in a bunch of winner's circles (mebbe?). I'm not out to prove how fast it can go (plenty of people can and will do that), but I am going to try to show how much of a winning, consistent, durable workhorse it is. If anyone's trying to hunt up the parts to build one, call Scott at Southland Speed. (see ad on the ClassRacer homepage)

Ed Wright 03-21-2011 06:30 PM

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Jim Wahl 03-21-2011 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael Beard (Post 247611)
Actually no, Jim, I *am* talking about the 5.9L Dragpak motor.

Nice pics, Lew! Hey, is that a '77 Nova? :rolleyes: :p LOL

And Ed, it's more than a little soft... and that's *precisely* why I'm building it. I'm not here to blow smoke up anyone's rear. I can't afford to NOT build it. I'm building it to live, to footbrake it, to beat the snot out of it double-entered three times a week, and to put it in a bunch of winner's circles (mebbe?). I'm not out to prove how fast it can go (plenty of people can and will do that), but I am going to try to show how much of a winning, consistent, durable workhorse it is. If anyone's trying to hunt up the parts to build one, call Scott at Southland Speed. (see ad on the ClassRacer homepage)

Ooooops! My bad! Sorry guys. I guess I'm the one who was confused! Thanks for posting those pics Lew! Jim



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Dennis P Chapman 03-21-2011 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim Wahl (Post 247618)
Ooooops! My bad! Sorry guys. I guess I'm the one who was confused! Thanks for posting those pics Lew! Jim



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Car looks good Jim good luck this year.

Signman 03-21-2011 07:28 PM

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Hey Mopar guys correct me if I'm wrong! This period in time was when I was becoming seriously interested in and learning about stockers.

In the say early 2000s the Aspen / Volare was the hot ticket. Qualifying at the top and setting records. But like all under factored combinations got hit with HP, became not so attractive for those that just wanted to go fast and there are no where near as many of them out there making noise. In other words they had their heyday as the controversial fast cars. Everyone has their day. So would agree that these days their HP rating may not be so soft.

From what I hear one of the rockets with all the bells and whistles that has been sitting for years may make an appearance in Division 1 this season with multiple drivers and one fairly well known Duster driver may even swap feet! :D

aspen7709 03-21-2011 07:57 PM

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When I (Yes I said I) built mine i bought a back up engine from someone who had one and bought a body for $12.00.. no that is not a typo &12.00. Then 2 years of restoring and laboring to make it work watching Ken Etter & Steve Wann & Jerry Bennett get it hammered with hp. But i kept plugging away...that was 2000. Now 2 model & year changes later it is still 24 hp up from the start and lost .3 plus from a natural J to a H...and now come the ringers just to make it worse. Yea James I built it. From the ground up..

I will never forget my first national.. I was struggling and Ken Etter said to me...Hey that is a nice car. too bad the motor is a hunk of junk. I could run 10.90 in h with it.. I was in I @ the time running 12.20s .That hurt & i knew I was in for a long weekend.. But I am still here.
Kenny Newsome 7709 h/sa

James Perrone 03-21-2011 08:07 PM

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Hey Jim
I m bringing plenty of peanut oil for you.
Make sure you are there I aint scared of no TAXI..
Mike Beard stick to cheerleading..and dominating ihra
Get the popcorn this could be fun
Also Jim Wahl INTERNET TOUGH GUY..AND CRYBABY SUPREME
Congrats on getting 8 plug wires .
At least im not a bitter internet puke like your self.
I assume you will run H/sa ? looking forward to a race.

Jim Wahl 03-21-2011 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Dennis P Chapman (Post 247624)
Car looks good Jim good luck this year.

Thanks Dennis, same to you my friend! Jim

Jim Wahl 03-21-2011 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by James Perrone (Post 247651)
Hey Jim
I m bringing plenty of peanut oil for you.
Make sure you are there I aint scared of no TAXI..
Mike Beard stick to cheerleading..and dominating ihra
Get the popcorn this could be fun
Also Jim Wahl INTERNET TOUGH GUY..AND CRYBABY SUPREME
Congrats on getting 8 plug wires .
At least im not a bitter internet puke like your self.
I assume you will run H/sa ? looking forward to a race.

Be careful you don't have an accident with all that peanut oil, it could be embarrassing for you. I'm not sure how I can be a tough guy and a crybaby at the same time? I'll have to think about that one for a while.

And no, *you* certainly are not a bitter internet puke, all of your prior posts really prove that! Yup, you really have *me* figured out. Congrats. Jim

Jim Wahl 03-21-2011 08:36 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Signman (Post 247637)
Hey Mopar guys correct me if I'm wrong! This period in time was when I was becoming seriously interested in and learning about stockers.

In the say early 2000s the Aspen / Volare was the hot ticket. Qualifying at the top and setting records. But like all under factored combinations got hit with HP, became not so attractive for those that just wanted to go fast and there are no where near as many of them out there making noise. In other words they had their heyday as the controversial fast cars. Everyone has their day. So would agree that these days their HP rating may not be so soft.


I couldn't agree with you more! The MoPar F bodies had their day and now are over factored has beens, but don't tell Perrone! He's still back in the early 2000's and still thinks those taxi's are a threat to him! Jim

Ken Etter 03-21-2011 09:37 PM

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The Volare/Aspen 360's are has beens? There are 4 different 360 combos that can be run. I only take credit for getting HP on two of them. There are a few others responsible for the others. With that said I dont see why they cant run with any other combo out there,excluding the DP's and mustangs of course. Maybe James is right in calling them soft. Of course no where near as soft as his combo.

Jim Wahl 03-21-2011 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Ken Etter (Post 247672)
The Volare/Aspen 360's are has beens? There are 4 different 360 combos that can be run. I only take credit for getting HP on two of them. There are a few others responsible for the others. With that said I dont see why they cant run with any other combo out there,excluding the DP's and mustangs of course. Maybe James is right in calling them soft. Of course no where near as soft as his combo.

Ken, I was sort of being sarcastic but only because James was being so ridiculous. Jim

Greg Hill 03-22-2011 01:43 PM

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I know one thing if Jerry Bennett and George Widuch were still running those things they could run with any other cars except the new crate motor cars.

jmcarter 03-22-2011 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Greg Hill (Post 247794)
I know one thing if Jerry Bennett and George Widuch were still running those things they could run with any other cars except the new crate motor cars.

Out of curiosity, has anyone ever made a 62 run like theirs? Not that I'm aware but I could be wrong...two really fine gentlemen to be sure.

Chuck Beach 03-22-2011 04:29 PM

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John Shaul

Jeff Teuton 03-22-2011 06:07 PM

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Many moons ago, we had two wagons with the 4x2 383. Both were fast. One was bought as a national record holder. Many Moons ago

Mark Yacavone 03-22-2011 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by jmcarter (Post 247804)
Out of curiosity, has anyone ever made a 62 run like theirs? Not that I'm aware but I could be wrong...two really fine gentlemen to be sure.


Callahan and Sulc

jmcarter 03-22-2011 06:56 PM

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Uncle already! Still quite an accomplishment the way it runs...and looks second to none.

Thanks for the names, some of which I need to do some research on.

Jim Wahl 03-22-2011 08:26 PM

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I just talked to George BTW. he and Jerry are very happy with the way the car is running. George thinks he has a handle on it. Jim

Ken Etter 03-22-2011 09:38 PM

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Add another to the list. My father Al and his partner Don Studley had a 62 383 wagon they raced in the late 70's to early 80's. Even held the E/SA record with it.

Jim Wahl 03-22-2011 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Ken Etter (Post 247905)
Add another to the list. My father Al and his partner Don Studley had a 62 383 wagon they raced in the late 70's to early 80's. Even held the E/SA record with it.

I remember that car! Another quick piece. Jim

borninamopar 03-22-2011 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim Wahl (Post 247508)
I gotta say, for a car salesman he seems pretty honest about this! You da man Jeff! Jim

I wouldn't buy a dodge from anyone but Southland...Jeff and his family are about honest as they come..They just know how to make those mopars fly... as in FLYER...And,,Jim...you are theman when it comes to those Volares...And I still ain't telling anyone who I am...And I freakin' agree...The chebbie guys have it easy...period....more stuff and way freakin' cheaper...Anyone with a little brain and a little money can make a chevy run...Mopar guys need a bigger brain and deeper pockets. Period. I been busy racin, so I haven't been here to irritate you stock class racers...Been trying out that index racin' at some of the nearby tracks...I kinda like it...Heads up racing...on an index..sort like class racing...If you are running to fast, you still have to back her down at the 1000 ft or finish line. Took $600.00 home at one race, $1200.00 at another and 1500.00 at another...All the tracks within 2 hour driving time of the house...The stocker I am building is coming along nicely, but with all the fun and prize money I may not get in any hurry to finish it. Don't have to worry about all the NHRA crap like ya'll seem to put up with. Jim who used to run that Volare wagon that ran so well?

Mark Yacavone 03-22-2011 10:21 PM

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Out of curiosity, has anyone ever made a 62 run like theirs? Not that I'm aware but I could be wrong...two really fine gentlemen to be sure.

Jim, I'll help you out a little>>


http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p...600x600Q85.jpg

Here's one, thanks to Tom McCrea..
See if you can read the driver's name...

This from the March, 1970 issue of SS& DI magazine

( Sorry, can't figure out how to get them larger)


http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p...32494thumb.jpg

borninamopar 03-22-2011 10:21 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by James Perrone (Post 247529)
Jim
I dont know the specs on your combo..Our 2 cars are way diffrent.
You Mopar guys get alot of goodies thru Direct Connection.
I gotta go to the swap meet my cars a out dated stocker.LOL
By the way I BUILT MY CAR ..Can you say the same?
Hell Ya I CALLED YOU OUT..Its part of racing .You are real fast.But I never see you race anywhere.Like I said Im going YOU WANNA RACE IN CLASS?
Aspens and Voloras where built with purpose that they were SOFT.
Now Mike you own a IHRA crate motor car?
You dont count.
So Jim and Aspen ....Ya I think you guys have a soft combo..

Damn Mike,,you don't count...OUCH.

borninamopar 03-22-2011 10:25 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by James Perrone (Post 247529)
Jim
I dont know the specs on your combo..Our 2 cars are way diffrent.
You Mopar guys get alot of goodies thru Direct Connection.
I gotta go to the swap meet my cars a out dated stocker.LOL
By the way I BUILT MY CAR ..Can you say the same?
Hell Ya I CALLED YOU OUT..Its part of racing .You are real fast.But I never see you race anywhere.Like I said Im going YOU WANNA RACE IN CLASS?
Aspens and Voloras where built with purpose that they were SOFT.
Now Mike you own a IHRA crate motor car?
You dont count.
So Jim and Aspen ....Ya I think you guys have a soft combo..

When is the last time anyone got anything from Direct Connection? Tell me so I can start getting some of that secret stuff! Been a long time since those days. Jim, you still got the Direct Connection? My Mopars don't and they are jonesin' for a Direct Connection fix.

Jim Wahl 03-22-2011 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by borninamopar (Post 247924)
When is the last time anyone got anything from Direct Connection? Tell me so I can start getting some of that secret stuff! Been a long time since those days. Jim, you still got the Direct Connection? My Mopars don't and they are jonesin' for a Direct Connection fix.

Nope. As I said, the only thing Direct Connection on my car are the valve covers! Jim



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borninamopar 03-22-2011 10:48 PM

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[QUOTE=Jim Wahl;247926]Nope. As I said, the only thing Direct Connection on my car are the valve covers!
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How much are those DC valve covers worth? At least a .10 huh.

Jim Wahl 03-22-2011 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim Wahl (Post 247926)
Nope. As I said, the only thing Direct Connection on my car are the valve covers!
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How much are those DC valve covers worth? At least a .10 huh.

Oh! At least! Maybe more! I even have a DC/ Ed Hamburger "for 340's and 360's" decal in the trunk! Jim

Michael Beard 03-23-2011 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by borninamopar (Post 247922)
Damn Mike,,you don't count...OUCH.

Ya, really! That almost hurt my feeling. LOL I have some serious credibility issues...a (former) crate motor car (soon to be DragPak powered), a front wheel drive car, a bracket car, AND I know Billy Nees! Man, don't know how anyone could ever dig out of that hole... :rolleyes: Some pretty lame heckling. -=shrug=-

Jim Wahl 03-23-2011 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael Beard (Post 248018)
Ya, really! That almost hurt my feeling. LOL I have some serious credibility issues...a (former) crate motor car (soon to be DragPak powered), a front wheel drive car, a bracket car, AND I know Billy Nees! Man, don't know how anyone could ever dig out of that hole... :rolleyes: Some pretty lame heckling. -=shrug=-

Exactly why I'm over that conversation. I never met the guy but lately I have gotten many emails from others who apparently have.:rolleyes: Jim

Mark Callanan 03-23-2011 07:10 PM

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James is a good guy
He has a very good engine builder and like me is very tired of the games that are being played
I believe he runs the same combo as me
You Mopar guys make very good power if you spend the money to do so
One very respected engine builder told me he can make the most HP per CI with the 360 Mopar engine
Now all that said don't get down on him he like many others makes this site rock and roll
Wouldn't it be boring if we dint have people like him?
It takes all types to make the whole.........

Jim Wahl 03-23-2011 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by aspen7709 (Post 247492)
Yeah Jim,I know about the Calvert shocks. The prototype set is on Angelo Phillips' m/sa volare' Right now as we are testing them for John.But we cant call up Summit and order QA1 stocker shocks or moroso trick springs like he can.Hell a good set of torsion bushings cost us $400.00. He can get parts @ 7/11 minimarts his stuff is so common. What year are you claiming? because 76/77 can run @ 284 with the small cam combo.

Sorry I didn't see this until now. Better check again, all the '77&'78 360's, big and small cam are now at 289 (NHRA). The '76 175hp is rated at 284. It's the one with 64cc heads. The '76 220hp 360 is rated at 305hp. I run the '78 175hp that is rated at 289hp. I can run '76, '77, '78 or '79. Jim

aspen7709 03-23-2011 07:51 PM

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Actually i just checked again... 175 hp small cam is still in @ 284. just have to run as a 76-77. bill bushmaker and i run the same combo. We are hiding from the rest of you hooligans!! LOL!

Jim Wahl 03-23-2011 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by mark callanan (Post 248150)
James is a good guy
He has a very good engine builder and like me is very tired of the games that are being played
I believe he runs the same combo as me
You Mopar guys make very good power if you spend the money to do so
One very respected engine builder told me he can make the most HP per CI with the 360 Mopar engine
Now all that said don't get down on him he like many others makes this site rock and roll
Wouldn't it be boring if we dint have people like him?
It takes all types to make the whole.........

Yeah, He's a real hoot. Kinda makes you miss Ed O'Cryin doesn't it? Maybe Jimmy P. can take his place? Jim

borninamopar 03-23-2011 07:59 PM

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The 360 Magnum is still rated at 250 isn't it. Ever wonder why Jack McCormack ran those Dakotas? Haven't seen that family runnin' those trucks lately. I know Judy used to make #1 qualifier quite alot in that Dakota she raced. His daughter did really well in that CC Dakota 318.
Hope that Dakota RC I'm building does as well: Gave up on the 64 Dodge after looking at everything. I got a couple Pair of the R/T heads that Jack was selling, so I have that covered. And yea, as ya'll know, you can get lots of horsepower out of the 360: Nearly perfect rod ratio has way less friction.

borninamopar 03-23-2011 08:06 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mark callanan (Post 248150)
James is a good guy
He has a very good engine builder and like me is very tired of the games that are being played
I believe he runs the same combo as me
You Mopar guys make very good power if you spend the money to do so
One very respected engine builder told me he can make the most HP per CI with the 360 Mopar engine
Now all that said don't get down on him he like many others makes this site rock and roll
Wouldn't it be boring if we dint have people like him?
It takes all types to make the whole.........

Yea, that's all good, but I still need some info on that Direct Connection that he speaks of, cause if you aren't Allen Johnson you aren't getting any of that top secret good stuff they have. We just have to spend more money for our stuff because there aren't a zillion people running Mopars like there are chevy stuff.


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