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Thank you Mr. Jeff..I am 51, and I remember when my Dad used to drag me around with him racing a stock class car, and I remember that they all raced for that trophy, it wasn't about the money...And to the true stock class racer, I still don't think it is...Like my old man said, "If you can't afford the sport, don't be negative about it or down those that can. It's a sport, not a job.

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I would still do it for a trophy. Heck even a picture of a trophy. When I can no longer afford to do it I will not cry about it or bad mouth the guys that still can. I'll just quit.
I agree with Jeff Colvert (That's a FAST Mustang!) Toby Lang and Jeff Teuton.
Nobody owes me anything for driving down the track by myself.

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perfect!!!

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[QUOTE=Jeff Teuton;253573]Cost to race> Kevin stopped south of Dallas at a QT for 3.89 a gal.

Jeff that Quick Trip was selling diesel for $3.79 Thursday. I topped off there on the way to the track Thursday. I still have my receipt. Sunday diesel there was $3.89! My first trip ever with a diesel.

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Ed did you find the problem with your car? Are you going to Houston?

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I found the cutting off at launch, but it slowed down each pass at Ennis. I just put it in the trailer after qualifying. Didn't want to break it. Hope it's just valve springs. Depends on how bad it is. Still in the trailer. Came home to a pile of work that came while I was gone. Should get it out tomorrow evening to find out.

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I tried to get in yesterday but they would not let me (no grade points). I planned on attending Dallas but had a problem and could not get it fixed in time. I know the rule is that you have to have a grade point, but I do not like it. I will go to Indy points race instead.

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Guys... It's not just Super Stock/Stock that are down in numbers :) Look at all the other classes, they are way down too. Perhaps it's the economy and not NHRA's fault. I think maybe the $4.00 (plus) per gallon for gas and diesel have a lot more to do with this than NHRA. If I were NHRA I'd be on here saying; "Hey Guys, we can't please all the people all the time, even when we try so please... cut us some slack"! Personally, I think all things considered they do a pretty good job most of the time. I have things I don't agree with but in light of the big picture it's not that bad so I'm not going to be a cry baby. No matter what they do there will always be some of us who are unhappy. "God Bless us all"!!! (we need it) :)

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No matter what we did there would be unhappy people. If the unhappy people ran things, there would be other unhappy people. I don't expect them to cater to me, and if I get unhappy enough about things I'll just quit. Still the best show in town, imho.

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x 2.....

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Nicely said....

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If there are still slots with a week to go I think they should allow cars with no grade points in. Just my opinion.

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Why not?

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Change your name to Kurt Bush, then you can get in. He ran Super Gas in Gainesville last year and never went to a div race. They tried to say he was at the div race in Commerce last year and if he was I don't know how he was able to win the race at Atlanta motor speedway that weekend. I race div 2 and no one I know ever saw him at Commerce.
Chuck

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It's all about enjoying what you can, when you can. Some of us have done it forever, some of us struggle just to do it, and some don't ever get the chance. I've been a class racing fanatic since I was in grade school, but had to wait until my 40s to even start. I still struggle with it both financially and physically, but I do what I can with what I have. Nobody should bash others for being able to do it. Whiners and crybabies can kill class racing just as much as the negative impact of NHRA.

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You dont have to run the race just tech in, I think it adds up he teched his car in at Atlanta then went and raced at Atlanta....wow only 60 miles apart. I know for a fact he did this. I did this years ago where I teched in a street car is stock elim on Friday to get a grade point.

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Well said Gary ..............

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Nice Gary, very nice. makes you think. Jim

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Gary good post. You forgot one thing that will be the end of class racing. Message Boards.
Chip

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True. It can be a tool or a weapon, depending on how they're used.

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Mostly because its like a bunch of old women and kids pissing and moaning on here. Its as bad as the Democrats and Rep. fighting over the budget. Some cant see the forest for the trees at whats happening to class racing. Some like to kiss NHRA's azz and some tell it like it is. Not very many on here make comments for the good of class racing. Its all about them and not for the good of class racing. The attacks are very childish but thats human nature. It seems to be from those in certain geographical areas as they are used to being rude and unfriendly in their usual surroundings. Others is because they are young and have no respect for anyone elses opinion then they go on the offensive. Where is the common decency these days ? I admit I go off back at someone but its only after they push my buttons one to many times or call me something that really sets me off. Usually I can take the critisism as I had gotten used to it after 22 1/2 years with dealing with all kinds of personallities in racing. My suggestion for some is look in the mirror and grow up. But in reality they will not. My 2 cents.

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I just got my car back together and running, and I would go if they would let me in. I just won't to race.

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With low car counts does anyone see why that points deal could not be dropped for the last week or so if the entries are that short? What could it hurt?

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I think the whole concept of the points system is so that racers would support the divisional races. There was a time not too many years ago that if you wanted to attend a National you needed to attend 4 or 5 divisionals. Now with 1 most of the time you can get in.
Chuck

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Ed, my guess is that it has to do with Administration, while we already see a lot of racers waiting to enter until the last moment, maybe that would get worse and they need the time to do all the paperwork with passes etc. It ain't like it used to be cause it's all in the 'puter these days.

Something I thought of while looking at the entry stats, EVERY catagory is being contested here plus it's a 3 day event for a place that has a reputation of foul weather.
If the fields were indeed full, how the heck would they get it all done???
Would that scare some from going?

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The car counts are for sure a sign of economic troubles for alot of people. NHRA doesn't help with the increase of entry fees and along with back office services, such as licences and perminent numbers. The one thing that I can see NHRA doing to protect themself's from the having money troubles is to put a car count on the purses for the sportsman Eliminators. With the fan base dropping off, back office money, along with membership money can only go so far for the sportman ranks before NHRA pulls the plug on sportsman going to national events. National events will become pro events only, divisionals will be left for sportsman. Think "Monster Trucks" to kill time in between rounds of the pros.

Casey Miles
248H Stock?

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Makes as much sense as anything Bernie. I have plenty of points, but won't be able to make it. Shame these guys that can go won't be able to.

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They may but they shouldn't If you look at the actuall NHRA pay out it takes very few cars at the current entry fee to cover the payout. If any one tried to put on a race with the payout to entry ratio of a NHRA natianal (not counting contingency) no one would show up.

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i for one definitely considered class win $$$ in my choice of races. 10 years ago we could pick up $7-800 and pay for a trip. Even the $400 two years ago helped when you race and raise 2 kids alone on a budget... so i pretty much only went to class races.

i wont attend any nhra event (maybe a divison 3 to see my friends) anytime soon
i went to belle rose ($772 tow gas) because i believe in pat's race format and the way he treats us and the way wesley techs the cars... i wont go to indy ($100 tow gas) because nhra jerks us off and the yearly fiasco they call tech.

just my opinion, and i vote with my entries
captain jack

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Give your Div Director a call.Couldn't hurt.You also can have someone you know,with grade points,enter and put you as the driver.I've done it before.

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At this time last year there were no entries in stock. 17 is an improvement or enhancement.

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HA,HA, I bet stock was not contested last year.

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20 silver dollars you are correct.

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Entries up 29 now. 60 more to go.

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It won't work Ed, I tried all of this Monday.

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Now that's customer service at it's finast.

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7 days to go, allowance for event 572, current entries 375.

Someone explain to me WHY they won't take Stubbs or Warman's entry.
I realize that there are several that will enter between now & Monday (Emmons fleet of Stockers & SS come to mind rather quickly) but hitting quota probably still isn't going to happen. Currently 21/60 in SS, 35/80 in Stk

In this day & age, income is income. SOME coming in is better than NONE coming in.

Just my quizzical .02 worth.......

Unk

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What the heck is wrong with you guys, trying to enter with just a week to go, what do you think you are racing, IHRA. Good ole NHRA has to have your money up front for organizational purposes, plus it has great interest percentages while sitting there. The only chance you got is to have someone tech you in at another divisional somewhere and your in. Or you could sway them with a regular entry fee plus a divisional fee combined. Oh well, sorry for your situation, go and put in on YouTube that you were trying to give them money but they declined. Talk about going viral.

If it was an IHRA race you could enter on the day of eliminations.

Ron Ortiz
U/SA Skooter is smiling

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35 entries now alomst half full. LOL

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Makes no sense.