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Ed Wright 04-24-2011 02:03 PM

Re: Staging light error caught on film & Div. Director's res
 
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Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN (Post 254759)
Its true.....NHRA wanted the T/AD ( Billy Williams) to take the win for the Grace cup and he had to run Cal Q.3 times. NHRA didnt like that to much when a lowly stocker won. .

I'm not buying that one.

Mark Yacavone 04-24-2011 03:25 PM

Re: Staging light error caught on film & Div. Director's res
 
Randy Heer, 1973 World Finals ...We were AT the finish line in the semi's.
Randy's 52 Olds didn't quite look like a World Champ due to the appearance factor.

Ed Wright 04-24-2011 06:12 PM

Re: Staging light error caught on film & Div. Director's res
 
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Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone (Post 254772)
Randy Heer, 1973 World Finals ...We were AT the finish line in the semi's.
Randy's 52 Olds didn't quite look like a World Champ due to the appearance factor.

And? What's the rest of the story?

Mark Yacavone 04-24-2011 06:36 PM

Re: Staging light error caught on film & Div. Director's res
 
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Originally Posted by Ed Wright (Post 254797)
And? What's the rest of the story?

The Olds took the win light by almost a car length in the semi's .As I said I was standing right there on the way out the gate. His opponent, driving a more palatable later model, was in the pits, loading his car. He was told he had won and to come back for the final. A piece of paper blew through the lights, triggering the wrong win light, ...was the story from the tower.
You'll have to research the rest of the story. The finalist didn't do anything wrong himself, so I won't mention his name here.

Ed Fernandez 04-24-2011 08:54 PM

Re: Staging light error caught on film & Div. Director's res
 
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Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone (Post 254800)
The Olds took the win light by almost a car length in the semi's .As I said I was standing right there on the way out the gate. His opponent, driving a more palatable later model, was in the pits, loading his car. He was told he had won and to come back for the final. A piece of paper blew through the lights, triggering the wrong win light, ...was the story from the tower.
You'll have to research the rest of the story. The finalist didn't do anything wrong himself, so I won't mention his name here.

If he accepted the win knowing the other guy got there first he sure did something wrong Mark.Would/could you have done that?I know I couldn't have accepted that.

Ed Wright 04-24-2011 08:59 PM

Re: Staging light error caught on film & Div. Director's res
 
I can't believe there wouldn't have been a huge uproar over that. Makes no sense that racers would allow that.

Jim Wahl 04-24-2011 09:13 PM

Re: Staging light error caught on film & Div. Director's res
 
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Originally Posted by Ed Wright (Post 254839)
I can't believe there wouldn't have been a huge uproar over that. Makes no sense that racers would allow that.

You mean sort of like the "uproars" that occur here and then people are called "crybabies" and "whiners" when they indicate something could be amiss? I also remember when this happened, but there was no internet back then. All you had was ND and it wasn't even mentioned. Imagine that. Jim




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Mark Yacavone 04-24-2011 09:41 PM

Re: Staging light error caught on film & Div. Director's res
 
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Originally Posted by Ed Wright (Post 254839)
I can't believe there wouldn't have been a huge uproar over that. Makes no sense that racers would allow that.

Ed W, there were very few people at the actual finish line .We just happened to be on the way out, and pulled over to watch the round. The "official" story stood with most people,I guess.


Ed F., The racer who appeared to lose ,went back into the pits and started loading his car . The announcer told him to bring his car back to staging. He was told he won because of a timing malfunction. What more could one expect out of him?
That's all I know....

Carl Weisinger 04-24-2011 09:48 PM

Re: Staging light error caught on film & Div. Director's res
 
GOOD GRIEF! NHRA does not, has not and has no reason to "fix" races. . . . . . . . . . .

Ed Wright 04-24-2011 09:59 PM

Re: Staging light error caught on film & Div. Director's res
 
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Originally Posted by Jim Wahl (Post 254843)
You mean sort of like the "uproars" that occur here and then people are called "crybabies" and "whiners" when they indicate something could be amiss? I also remember when this happened, but there was no internet back then. All you had was ND and it wasn't even mentioned. Imagine that. Jim

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No, not here. "Here" probably wasn't here then. Complaining to NHRA, not some Internet message board. Get real.

Ed Fernandez 04-24-2011 10:32 PM

Re: Staging light error caught on film & Div. Director's res
 
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Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone (Post 254848)
Ed W, there were very few people at the actual finish line .We just happened to be on the way out, and pulled over to watch the round. The "official" story stood with most people,I guess.


Ed F., The racer who appeared to lose ,went back into the pits and started loading his car . The announcer told him to bring his car back to staging. He was told he won because of a timing malfunction. What more could one expect out of him?
That's all I know....

Mark,if the other guy gets there by half a car you know it.I'll leave it at that.

Jim Wahl 04-24-2011 11:10 PM

Re: Staging light error caught on film & Div. Director's res
 
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Originally Posted by Ed Wright (Post 254858)
No, not here. "Here" probably wasn't here then. Complaining to NHRA, not some Internet message board. Get real.

Seriously Ed, come clean. Do you work for Tom Compton or something? Anytime someone refers to the NHRA in any other way than "that shining beacon on the hill" you can be counted on to jump in their *****! Why do you feel the insuppressible desire to attack? Really, look in the mirror. Check your posts for the last month or so. I am genuinely concerned. I can only imagine what you are going to call me this time.

Complain to NHRA? Hahahahahaha. I think some guys vent on there just to keep from shooting somebody! Let them vent! It's called "civil discourse". Try it. If it really upsets you so much, don't read it! Jim

Wayne W 04-25-2011 08:00 AM

Re: Staging light error caught on film & Div. Director's res
 
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Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone (Post 254800)
The Olds took the win light by almost a car length in the semi's .As I said I was standing right there on the way out the gate. His opponent, driving a more palatable later model, was in the pits, loading his car. He was told he had won and to come back for the final. A piece of paper blew through the lights, triggering the wrong win light, ...was the story from the tower.
You'll have to research the rest of the story. The finalist didn't do anything wrong himself, so I won't mention his name here.

And the rest of the story W.A.Lee told me was about a couple of dragsters in Comp, the first guy was a whole dragster length out in front and still lost.

Kinda makes you stop and think doesn't it.

Ed Wright 04-25-2011 09:23 AM

Re: Staging light error caught on film & Div. Director's res
 
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Originally Posted by Jim Wahl (Post 254872)
Seriously Ed, come clean. Do you work for Tom Compton or something? Anytime someone refers to the NHRA in any other way than "that shining beacon on the hill" you can be counted on to jump in their *****! Why do you feel the insuppressible desire to attack? Really, look in the mirror. Check your posts for the last month or so. I am genuinely concerned. I can only imagine what you are going to call me this time.

Complain to NHRA? Hahahahahaha. I think some guys vent on there just to keep from shooting somebody! Let them vent! It's called "civil discourse". Try it. If it really upsets you so much, don't read it! Jim

What have I ever called you? I run with both HRAs, there are things I like and don't much care for both places. I don't get people that want something changed in their favor, yet call the people that could make those changes idiots, drunks, crooks, thieves, etc. Like they won't read or hear about it. Makes zero sense. As long as the rules are the same for everybody, and I'm not offended by them, I'll race. I don't expect rules makers to cater to me. If I don't like them I will race somewhere else or quit. Ranting on the Internet won't change anything. Bad mouthing officials here won't change a thing. You won't even get a response from them. I like IHRA, but still prefer NHRA. I get to see and visit with more of my friends there and enjoy the higher car counts. IHRA people are nice, but it's not the same. If you don't like NHRA go race some place else. They aren't going to make changes for you.

X-TECH MAN 04-25-2011 09:28 AM

Re: Staging light error caught on film & Div. Director's res
 
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Originally Posted by carl weisinger (Post 254852)
good grief! Nhra does not, has not and has no reason to "fix" races. . . . . . . . . . .

lol................................


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