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Just A Fan 06-26-2011 09:28 PM

Re: 2010 Cobra Jet - No Reserve
 
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Originally Posted by Ed Fernandez (Post 265665)
Naysayers?Oh you mean the guys with combos that have been worked on for years,only to have them made non competitive by the collusion of two auto makers and a bunch of clueless,greedy little men in California.Ah,now I see.

Sorry, "naysayer" was the wrong choice of word. "Opponent" might be a better choice. I wasn't saying it to be sarcastic. But for the guys that don't want to see those cars out there, I would think that one more in somebody's collection (instead of on the track) would be welcome.

Ed Fernandez 06-26-2011 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack Matyas (Post 265714)
Double edge sword my *** - its how I choose to make my living - I'm in it for the money besides liking what I do everyday ( six / sometimes seven days/nights every week ) - how can you fault that ? Are you saying that everyday I deserve to "take it in the shorts" ? Sure sounds that way to me ...................And then you talk about standards I go by - sounds a little like you're trying to put some doubt in what I do ..........Go for it Ed - I'm ready to jump in . And yes - the almighty buck puts food on my table .

Jack,I couldn't care less how you make a living.I never said someone shouldn't make money at what they do.It's the American way.If you conduct the way you do your business in a honest manner then when you die you'll go to your reward with a clear concience.
Be carefull what you jump into,you might need highwaders.

Ed Carpenter 06-27-2011 02:55 AM

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I don't know about everyone else, but I think at the next east coast race Ed and Jack should share a hotel room for the weekend!!!!!! LOL

Ed Wright 06-27-2011 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by deuces wild (Post 265760)
i don't know about everyone else, but i think at the next east coast race ed and jack should share a hotel room for the weekend!!!!!! Lol

lmao!

Casey Miles 06-27-2011 08:57 AM

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They will probably lose the paper work to the car and the car will not change hands. I've heard of things like that happening at auctions.

Casey Miles
248H Stock?

Jeff Lee 06-27-2011 11:46 AM

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Remember John Gallina's SS legal 7 second Buick? It sold @ BJ as I recall for $27,000...never to be seen again.

New race cars are not the place @ BJ. Old race cars are the opposite based on what I've seen.

Ed Fernandez 06-27-2011 05:17 PM

Re: 2010 Cobra Jet - No Reserve
 
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Originally Posted by deuces wild (Post 265760)
I don't know about everyone else, but I think at the next east coast race Ed and Jack should share a hotel room for the weekend!!!!!! LOL

Film at 11PM.

Greg Hill 06-27-2011 07:24 PM

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It brought what it was worth.

Ed Fernandez 06-27-2011 08:56 PM

Re: 2010 Cobra Jet - No Reserve
 
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Originally Posted by Greg Hill (Post 265934)
It brought what it was worth.

Greg,if that's so do you think all the guys that are racing them payed too much for them?
The going price seems to be north of $100K.

Greg Hill 06-28-2011 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Ed Fernandez (Post 265965)
Greg,if that's so do you think all the guys that are racing them payed too much for them?
The going price seems to be north of $100K.

Too much for me.

Dean Roberts 06-28-2011 06:21 PM

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What a bunch of whiny, miserable people you are wishing bad things on people you don't even know. Your life must be really bad because misery loves company.

Jack Matyas 06-28-2011 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Dean Roberts (Post 266173)
What a bunch of whiny, miserable people you are wishing bad things on people you don't even know. Your life must be really bad because misery loves company.

Thanks Dean - I was starting to think it was only me who felt that way ............

Ed Fernandez 06-28-2011 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Dean Roberts (Post 266173)
What a bunch of whiny, miserable people you are wishing bad things on people you don't even know. Your life must be really bad because misery loves company.

Ain't America great?Wer're all entitled to our opinions,whether the P/C police like it or not.

BTW I'm assuming you're refering to me hoping the seller of the car loses his shirt on the mustang.
I don't see where I wished any physical harm to him,only in his pocket for a)not putting a reserve on it b) the fact that it's pretty safe to assume he's not a racer.A real racer wouldn't in his wildest dream think of selling one of these cars for $56K.A speculator needs to take a financial beating
once in a while.Maybe then they wouldn't throw stupid money at things and ruin the market for real
car guys.But I'm sure this doesn't matter one bit to you.You're most likely a keyboard racer anyway.
Jack is a racer and maybe way back in his mind he sees my point,but that's for him to determine.

Pvt Parts 06-28-2011 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Ed Fernandez (Post 265665)
Naysayers?Oh you mean the guys with combos that have been worked on for years,only to have them made non competitive by the collusion of two auto makers and a bunch of clueless,greedy little men in California.Ah,now I see.


I don't think they are clueless Ed. I think they know exactly what they are doing.... and being paid well for doing it.

Ed Fernandez 06-28-2011 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Pvt Parts (Post 266214)
I don't think they are clueless Ed. I think they know exactly what they are doing.... and being paid well for doing it.

I guess Scott.Like someone said before,it puts food on the table.

Pvt Parts 06-28-2011 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Ed Fernandez (Post 266216)
I guess Scott.Like someone said before,it puts food on the table.


Yes, to them it's strictly business. Truth, honesty, fairness, and sportsmanship (as in racing) are not in their vocabulary. I think they've all read Robert Ringer. "Looking Out For Number One" The name of the game is to pile chips on your side of the table. Everything else is secondary. This is not a motorsports operation...... it's money game.

abongi 06-28-2011 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack Matyas (Post 266176)
Thanks Dean - I was starting to think it was only me who felt that way ............

I'm with you Jack. I met Ed last year when I was pitted next to him at Maple Grove. I thought he was a pretty nice guy. I had no idea he had a real thing against people with a couple of bucks regardless of whether they have worked night and day for 20 or 30 years to get there and are now enjoying the fruit of all their hard work. Too bad...

Jeff Lee 06-29-2011 12:04 AM

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I was told this same CJ sold at BJ last year for $110K. That IS a speculator. Not a racer!

Ed Fernandez 06-29-2011 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by abongi (Post 266227)
I'm with you Jack. I met Ed last year when I was pitted next to him at Maple Grove. I thought he was a pretty nice guy. I had no idea he had a real thing against people with a couple of bucks regardless of whether they have worked night and day for 20 or 30 years to get there and are now enjoying the fruit of all their hard work. Too bad...

Come on Anthony.I never once said that.I have no problem with anyone who gets
involved with racing and their equipment.You have a nice fleet,cars,trailer ,etc.I'm sure you
worked hard to get where you are today.I hold no ill will towards youi or any other racer with more than what I have (which is a vast amount of people).
Take a look at the high profile speculators (some,not all) who are taking over the
collector car market.They found a place to dabble and become a hero to their friends
and adoring fans.
Jack have no fear that I'm including you in that group.In the end you're small potatoes
in the collector car market.But that's okay,if you enjoy what you do,good for you.

Jack Matyas 06-29-2011 11:45 AM

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Ed - The horse has left the barn - no amount of back peddling will help ...............maybe you should choose your words better .But then we can't forget your words - ain't America grand ...........

Ed Fernandez 06-29-2011 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Jack Matyas (Post 266299)
Ed - The horse has left the barn - no amount of back peddling will help ...............maybe you should choose your words better .But then we can't forget your words - ain't America grand ...........

Jack,I don't back pedal.It's not my fault you can't comprehend the written word.You also put too much importance on yourself in the scheme of things.I repeat,I think it's a good thing when speculators get bit in the *****.Period.

X-TECH MAN 06-29-2011 12:16 PM

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I agree....if it wasnt for speculators and dirt bag shows like Barrett-Jackson more regular working stiffs could afford to have a nice muscle car these days.

Dennis P Chapman 06-29-2011 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN (Post 266304)
I agree....if it wasnt for speculators and dirt bag shows like Barrett-Jackson more regular working stiffs could afford to have a nice muscle car these days.

Amen

Jack Matyas 06-29-2011 02:35 PM

Re: 2010 Cobra Jet - No Reserve
 
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Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN (Post 266304)
I agree....if it wasnt for speculators and dirt bag shows like Barrett-Jackson more regular working stiffs could afford to have a nice muscle car these days.

Guess I'm a dirt bag --- But I'm a working stiff dirt bag - unlike many of you ! And I've been a speculator since around age 12 .

lstanford 06-29-2011 03:07 PM

Re: 2010 Cobra Jet - No Reserve
 
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Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN (Post 266304)
I agree....if it wasnt for speculators and dirt bag shows like Barrett-Jackson more regular working stiffs could afford to have a nice muscle car these days.

AND if your aunt had a "set" she would be your uncle!

Ed Fernandez 06-29-2011 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack Matyas (Post 266342)
Guess I'm a dirt bag --- But I'm a working stiff dirt bag - unlike many of you ! And I've been a speculator since around age 12 .

Jack your self pity is hard to bear.I never accused you of being one of the type I' talking about.It's probably true you work at your car/real estate business.And good for you.But now what does "But I'm a working stiff dirt bag - unlike many of you." mean?I worked
outside in the usual weather extremes of the northeast for my whole adult life.GrantedI was paid well for it.And please don't use the I used my head not my hands comparison.Our occupations weren't exactly rocket science.You make it seem that we are somewhat less than you in that respect.
Like you said,your words,not mine.

7423 06-29-2011 04:10 PM

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Wow!! Hasn't been this much excitement on this board since Art left. Kinda miss ole Arty. You two aren't nearly as funny!!

Jack Matyas 06-29-2011 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by 7423 (Post 266385)
Wow!! Hasn't been this much excitement on this board since Art left. Kinda miss ole Arty. You two aren't nearly as funny!!

Charlie - You're a true car guy -and I know you've walked in my shoes -- help me out here ...................

Ed Fernandez 06-29-2011 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack Matyas (Post 266388)
Charlie - You're a true car guy -and I know you've walked in my shoes -- help me out here ...................

Come on Jack you need help to beat up on me?

Dean Roberts 06-29-2011 05:23 PM

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Ed, you can take my comment as you wish. But when are you on here with any positive comments or thoughts? Everything out of your mouth, I mean keyboard, is negative. You are entitled to your opinion, and so is everyone else. Comment all you want, but I am pointing out that your comments are very whiny.

Why in the world would you have enough time in your day to worry about what some guy you don't even know does with his own a car? How does that affect you? How is the market ruined? Most cars sold at BJ for big bucks are $50,000-100,000 restorations, not run of the mill cars that you see around town. People know what they are getting into at BJ so who cares?

If you are looking for a muscle car you can go to BJ and see hundreds at one time which is economical. If you overpay that might be better than flying all over the place to look at car after car.


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