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82 monte carlo 267 : 3170 in U/SA

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Well, with a factor of 25.10! there's the 1960 falcon with a 144 6cyl at 2259#!

Can't see a 72 mustang getting this light, but a 250 6cyl is 2973# at 20.50. Of course it's rated at 145hp...and the 302 is 143 so why bother.

78 Fairmont 2.3, 22.69 at 2587#.

For 4 cyl's how about a 92 festiva at 1720#?

Pretty much all the fox platforms are around 2800-3100 with an 8 and so are the maveric/comets. The old falcons were around 2800 with v8's too.

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To end the controversy the D4B is for the smaller bolt 273/4bbl motor. The LD4B is for the '66 273/4bbl that uses the modern LA motor heads. Both aluminum intakes have a CHRY part #. Must have the CHRY part # to be NHRA legal. The acceptance of the intakes was introduced by Chrysler/Mopar. What I don't understand from the info from NHRA is why they don't allow the LD4B on the '65 273/4bbl when you can use the swirl port 302 heads which are moderm LA design.

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That was the first one I thought of. Very light for a car in V/SA. How about `78 GM H Body (Monza,Skyhawk etc.) 105/130 231 Buick V-6 2770# with driver in U/SA.

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The one we had here was actually that light too.
Too bad we never got a chance to thrash it out ...Woulda been a rocketship

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so, what did your Skyhawk(?) weigh?

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That 63 olds jetfire is a small v8 alum block , turbo or replacement q jet 11.1 cr. Was that car IRS or straight rear ?You can lose the powerglide for a 3spd now . Really hard to find parts for that combo .

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I`ve run it in U/SA in the past. For U the min is 2770,V is 3030 with driver.

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Jetfire (turbo) came out in 62..Std Corvair type T3 turbo

Not a Q jet , a 4GC

Pontiac was the only 61-63 (big) compact with IRS..Buck, Olds were straight rear, four arm susp.

Pontiac used a variation of the Powerglide...Oldes were three speed Roto Hydramatics
(Slim Jims)
No modern 3 speed will bolt to that block...Don't know about the later Rover version bolt pattern

Carry on...

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68 Ford Falcon Coupe, 115hp 200, 2700# to make V with driver.

The pocket rocket: 71 Pinto, 2.0, hits U at a svelte 2170#.

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I did not look in the guide but the 2.3L engine did not come out until 1974.
regards, Roland

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It's a 2000 SOHCammer ...Actually I like it, with today's rules

Compression , carb, cam, 3 " stroke ..very little drivetrain issues at that weight.
Easy U/Stock index runner.......(A little over 1 hp per cube)

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Mark,

Funny you mention the 2000cc engine. I know for a fact my old buddy, Kenny Meek still has the Pinto that he and his brother set numerous records with in the mid to late 70's. They had the different body parts to make that car anything from a 71 to 73. 74's had the impact bumpers, I had one of those. It classed in X.

I stumbled into Toby (his older brother) at a restaurant awhile back. We spent the morning discussing that car. I too, think it has a ton of potential with todays rules. I was there for most of it, we ran that car in U, V and W. At different times we held records in V and W in both NHRA and IHRA. Last record I remember them setting was in V at 15.03. I know that car had 14.8-9 potential. That was with 1977 rules.

With todays piston, cam and valve spring rules. The fact you could put a good transmission, flywheel and clutch behind it. Add in a real rear end with some gear selection. I can see this combo being stupid fast with a little work.

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Middle of winter, anybody up for some "Light" reading?

I hope that Kenny doesn't mind me bringing these back to the top, I'm bored.

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I hear ya, Billy
That's why I brought back the 340 intake thread.

Some nights , the Happy Valley Rest and Retirement Home newsletter has more action than this place!

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It's Mopar Hustle Stuff just like the LD340.

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That's why in 73 I built the Vega 4 banger wagon for Z/S (@2420lbs). No one knew anything about them because in was the first. Hence no bitching

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I wish you were my neighbour Billy Nees, I would keep you busy this winter shaving some ET off my Camaro.

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My 67 Camaro w / 350/286 HP. In D/SA was like 2850

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We occasionally run D Stick with our 66 Nova post. 2770 minimum 327 275 hp. We can make that weight with a 200 lb driver

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Now that right there has GOT to be one fun ride!!!

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1987 Mustang Notch, 88 hp, W/Stock
2282 with driver!
The problem would be that the car weighs in, according to the guide, at 2600 lbs.
It would be fun trying to see how close you could get it, and still get through tech ;-)
Even @ 200# heavy, still a good car.

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Mark, please stop me, I'm getting an itch to play with a 4 cyl. Fiero again!

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Mark, please don't try to stop him......


Rick Thomason
GTOMayhem

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Oh I won't, Rick
We'll see how many are interested in what's essentially a Citation drive unit in the rear of a sports car, ..with a Chevette front suspension.

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Mark I have thought the 87-89 fox body could be done cheap for a bottom feeder

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1967-9 Rambler American 290 c.i. auto. Can use 904 TF, decent carb. for the c.i. disp. and the 1970 replacement head. Runs L,M and N if I'm not mistaken.

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It is a great car. It was originally built by Richard James in D2 as a 67 6 cylinder combo.

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I didn't know that! I remember when Mr. James was racing it!

(hey Bender, you won't believe this but I stumbled across a "RUST FREE" 71 Vega GT in a container yesterday!!! I'm trying to convince the owner that he doesn't want to put a smallblock in it and streetrod it. I think that qualifies as a flyweight!)

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Got news for you all ... I consider my 3200 el Camino a lightweight ... bob bender and I say if it ain’t two tons you need to tow a trailer to be legit 😬

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Ain't cheap. Collectors have them up around $60,000

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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IEdQPTXwBqM

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iN2Bdjvgvtw

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=W7qnByyDM7o

Here are couple D stick videos of our car. The last one was in J Stick. 283 we had Dennis Winegar, our track announcer and former Rambler Scrambler Racer try out stickshift ps again after a 30 year hiatus

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I have always really like this car, I got to ride in it back when Richard James had it, it was at Gainesville back in the eighties. I broke something and coasted off the other end and Richard came by and gave me a ride back to the pits. It had a six cylinder in it then and it was the loudest car I've ever been in.

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There is a 63 jetfire in Col. for sale 6000 its an all there turbo &mtr w/120,000 mile & needs resto/paint .Is the front & rear suspension is like the 1964 Chevelle ? I've never seen one . It has alum heads & intake ? I'm guessing fuel inj. is like the vettes had ?

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How about a 1961 Dodge Lancer with the 196 hp 225 c.i. 6 cylinder 4 barrel. Runs J/S at 2620#. You couldn't beat anybody, but it would be fun.

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My Vega wagon was 2420 with driver

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Ken, it's got coils all the way around but I don't think it's the same as a 64 Chevelle. And no fuel injection. It's got a Rochester 4 Jet. As I recall, the whole engine is aluminum with steel sleeves.

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‘63 Olds Jetfire....Hard to believe one lasted that many miles. https://www.mecum.com/lots/SC0517-28...obile-jetfire/. They usually ended up parked due to way to many problems. A good looking little car though. F-85 body style. The Pro ET winner nationally this past year has one.

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My pick for a fly weight would be a 57 Corvette with the 283 hp fuel injected motor. A natural D car that would go into C at 2717. Not cheap and I don’t know how competitive it would be, but definitely cool!

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I have to wonder if NHRA would let you use the alcohol injection? If you look at the Mecum pictures, you can see the alcohol tank on the drivers side of the radiator.