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IHRA don't have this problem,,,,you all do cause it's gotta say NHRA or no way.........
Keep going and keep complaining...........keep going and keep complaining.....ect...........
You just won't learn will ya ????
Gonna be a long winter on here.....lol...:)

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Looks like the west coast rule book is working, Bo Butner is still driving his AA mustang in stock. How does that work? If you done that here in div 5 you would not be on the top of the sheet but on the bottom dqed.Up date Bo is now in a 2012 mustang. Tom

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What the H#ll do you think most of this new Ford junk is ? Havent seen much of what they are running come off the show room floor lately either.

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Yeah ,you are right.
I guess i should have kept my comment to myself instead of saying anything on here.
I must have been dreaming when i saw some of the NHRA guys running IHRA some this year...I don't no how they got in with cars built for NHRA ( ? )

Anything in the NHRA class guide for s/ss are also in the IHRA class guide.(must be a mis-print)...
I'll just "try " to keep my thoughts to myself from now on..:(

Terry ,you are correct again my friend....

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You are right to Danny. NHRA could go completely out of business and every track in the USA could be IHRA and the most would quit, sell out, etc. before they would "Lower" themselves and run IHRA. BRAIN WASHED !

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So....what exactly are you saying ???

:rolleyes:

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Thoughts to myself.
I like NHRA, never said i didn't.Just raised in IHRA country.

IHRA don't give hp if a car runs fast at a NHRA meet.
Believe me ,the guides are the same (except some hp ratings)
IHRA didn't add 3 tenths to index ,NHRA took 3 tenths off...
You may want to ask the names you mentioned why they chose the sanction...
I would say i am one of the very low % of racers on here that as you say talk NHRA down.
With that said , I love racing and hope it stays around for a long time.....

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Danny and Terry how can you talk IHRA up?
Ten years ago there were a good place to race. Now there national events are a joke. I think the northern nats this year had about 400 total fans. And what they call a pro show is nothing but a local night of fire show. When I when to the northern nationals in 2002 the place was packed, tons of fans and racers. IHRA is not on the right track.

Now all the news from SEMA. New carmaro looks great MPR did a great job like always.

New Stk rule changes on the table for 2012

64 car fields for ss and stk at all nationals but Indy.
For stock only 1980 and newer cars only.
All you cry babys are going to get your want NHRA no longer needs you old cars to fill there fields. Sorry Greg and Andrew no NHRA for you guys next year. Well you can always run SS.
And last three new stk classes all 10.5 tire.
New cars are here to stay. Are you?

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NOPE ! Never planned to be an NHRA member ever again. 10 years ago NHRA was fun also. Who cares about the Pro show in either association except for the clueless spectators who just want to watch crashes anyway. All the so called Pros do is keep the track from rusting from all the explosions. NHRA had my money for over 30 years. No more. Nostalgia shows and circuit races along with some IHRA are more fun for me. Thats more than enough running up and down the roads at todays fuel prices. If what you wrote means "1980 and newer cars in stock only" for 2012 is true then I wont be alone either. NHRA will just shoot themselves in their foot with that deal. Who will NHRA get to pay for the extra insurance for them to run the Fuel Cars???? NHRA always was behind the times with some tech stuff for stock and S/S.. Roller rockers and 10.5 tires have been on the books for a very long time in IHRA.
And to think....I used to think NHRA was the only deal in town....Until I woke up.

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Never met you Charley, don't mind some of your outspoken posts, rather enjoy them; nothing wrong with some swagger but you're really over the top on this one in order to provoke....don't think NHRA can be that stupid. Turn away the most popular muscle cars in history and some of their top runners unless they completely change out their race cars in this climate? Tell many of the past Stock Champs "no thanks, we don't need your type". C'mon Man! Bet you can't wait for Greg or Andrew to get back to their keyboard, and if they don't take the bait, what then?

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Damnit Charlie.What'd you do,fall into the hard cider vat again????????

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64 car fields. That's the stupidist f%$(Ing thing I've heard in awhile.

Cars only 1980 and newer only is the stupidist f%#$king thing I have ever heard period.

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Hey.....NHRA did it back in the early 70's. They said 1960 and newer so whos to say they wont do it again. Id be worried.....Id be VERY worried unless you had one of those bogus HP new fangled Fords or DP's. Damn.....I can almost hear the phones ringing off the hook in Calif. from here tomorrow morning.

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No bait here, just the buzz from SEMA 2011. Also all national events(but INDY) are going to be three days in 2013. I was told this will help save on employee's, hotels, travel costs and the cost to run the event.

NHRA doesn’t make any money on older cars. They could care less about a 1969 camaro in A/SA that gets killed week in and week out by new cars. It cost more time ,money and employee’s to police these older cars and the cheating that going on with them. The newer cars are way easier to police. NHRA wants SS/STK to be easier to control with less bit^hing. And to taking up less time on the track. STK and SS are just filler for the big show. You guys need to wake up. When NHRA goes to this three day format what do you think they’re going to cut out? Extra cars. They want to see 30-40 New CJ’s,DP and camaro’s because that what people in the auto industry are talking about. The old days are over, some of you just can’t seem to get it through you heads.

Ed NHRA could care less about what you think, you don't pay the bills. The 2500 plus fans that come to each national event and buy beer,food and t-shirts pay 80 plus % of the bills. And when they leave they don't bitc$ about hp or rules or call CA on monday. They just want to know the date for next years event.

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Charley I hope your eyes are brown?

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Hummmmmmmmm, This looks like how NHRA plans on increasing the Super Stock car counts.
As far as who will pay the extra insurance $$$$ for the fuel cars they always have the .90 cars. Maybe they would include the S/ST class to make up the difference? Then there is always T/D and T/S. Yes.....Id be VERY worried if I had a 68-69 Camaro, 63-64 Dodge Plymouth, or any other old dinosoaur with (heavens forbid) a carb.

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Yep!!!!!!!That would make sense to me ...
Good-by oldies (including me)....

Terry ,you forgot the heads - up extreme classes ??????/ 10.00 / 11.00 / 12.00 ect......
Anybody want a 66 nova 4- door stocker????lol...

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I truly hope that Charley is wrong in his beliefs.

As a owner of a new car and an old car, one must admit that the old is THE one....a 70 Challenger is cooler than a dragpak...When you open up your garage, which one takes your breath away?....a 70 boss 302 is cooler than any new cobra jet....of course change is the only constant, but with the dynacorn bodies, what is old is new too....The old car cars are just rolling artwork, the new not so much...but I was hoping to compete with my classic challenger at a national event...Can't hang with the new stuff, will not even try, but that is not the point, its supposed to be fun......

For the fans the car show of the classic cars and the new muscle is what they kindoff care to see, and they certainly don't care that the XYZ cars HP is X% light....they just want to see the pretty cars do big wheelies....I can't imagine a national event without the classic z-28.....it would just be wrong....

Class racing is different, its not bracket racing, it just different.

BTW Ed is a cool guy, a vet(thank you) and anyone with a Hanoi Jane urinal sticker on his ride is ok with me.


Eric

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Let's see now wasn't that a new car you had at Indy and was DNQed?

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Is it GM,Ford,or Dodge that makes the CARMARO??????

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Oh, that old cool Z-28 would still be there.......as a Super Stocker !

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i think if they went to 1980 and newer in stock that they would have a bigger lawsuit on their hands than they did with the Pro Stock Trucks

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Probably wouldnt fly.....If your old enough to remember what happened in 1972 to all of the cool Jr. stockers yet there was no law suit. Just a lot of OLD Super stockers. Remember SS/X class ! The Pro Stock trucks didnt have any place to go with their type of racing (heads up) and comp. is still a handicap race the last time I looked. . The old dinasoaur stockers can always run Super Stock. Most are under the S/S index anyway. It remains to be seen as to what happens.

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terry maybe no lawsuit in the 70's nowadays their will be big law firms standing in line for one, i hope charlie is just *** clowning around?

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I'm with you on this one Mickey. We have a per 80 car and a post 80 car, but i can guarantee that if we can't run the old one, we wont take the new one either. And backhalfing an original 427/435 vette to run SS just isn't gonna happen

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[QUOTE=Mickey Whaley; i hope charlie is just *** clowning around?[/QUOTE]

Me to.....It would be sad.

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Cutting to 3 days makes sense, but the bigger issue in my view is the points meets. NHRA is expensive. Track owners don't need NHRA to run a Top Dragster or super class deal. If the DDs think the non performance classes are the answer, I think they are going to be surprised. Most of the track owners are better business people than the VPs at Glendora. They know where to trim the fat. Why would you pay through the nose for NHRA to come in when you could payout more money and charge less then they do for a Division race?

Knowing Charley Bob's penchant to stir the pot, I wouldn't hold too tight to the rumours.

I would think that a smart call would be to offer a GT stock that would allow older cars to use the newer style engines. It would spur sales and marketing opportunities for the aftermarket and the manufacturers. Racers could compete without having to spend 100k on a turnkey car. I would put a fuel injected Small block in my Nova if we coud do it. Tech already knows how to do this. I think the Marketing dept runs NHRA and they appear to be clueless. We need to spell it out for them. They must have been C students at best......

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Me......

I hope that Charley is right.....

Who wouldn't want to be in the position of a ready-made business just dropped off at your door??????????

Do you think IHRA or any other sanctioning body would jump at the chance to have an additional income stream generated from the pre-1980 stockers?????????

Maybe this is what IHRA needs to expand to the West Coast????

NHRA has shot themselves in the foot before

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I agree !

Tech has 2 sets of specs (as far as I know)
One set for the engine/trans combo claimed and one set for the body claimed by the racer.

If NHRA Stock was allowed to mix combos like SS/GT is now, I believe it would sure add more racers and more exciting combos. :)

IHRA right now is halfway there with Stock GT.
I would love to see them lift the cutoff year on the engine from 1979 to 2012 and allow 1955 to 2012 elligible bodies with any allowed elligible engine/trans combos... (within the corporate brands of course)

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I find it hard to believe that NHRA would entertain the idea of using a 1980 Stock cutoff.
That sounds almost borderline insane to do that to their racers.


However.....could Nostalgia Stock Eliminator be very far away ??
Nostalgia Super Stock is popular right now.

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I'd be willing to bet Charlie is sitting there laughing his ***** off at the panic and speculation he set off with his post.

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You better hope he is.

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Terry,I'm to the point I could give two turds less.The only thing I'll miss are the good people (racers and famalies and crew members,fans and the NHRA crews) at the events.I could be happy convertinting the car to street use and finishing my '65 Rambler s/w and driving that.I took the gremlin to about 5 or six car shows and had a great time at all of them.The car attracted quite a bit of attention and the people were great.

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http://serendip.brynmawr.edu/exchang...ng_drawing.jpg

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lmfao !!!!!!!!!

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i was thinking

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You clowns kill me, you don't get it.

These are not my views.This was just info that was given to me a SEMA last week.

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How are new cars easier to tech?
Did'nt year rule get took back to 55 recently?
Mike Taylor 3601

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That's exactly what I was thinking. They just went from 1960 or 1955. If they were to make a 1980 cut off they would be losing 80% or more of their cars. Which in this case, cars=$$$$. I call Bullsh!t!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!