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Having sponsored a heads up class for 3 years I can tell you that everyone who will race the series will want to start off with what they think is a fair weight and that will be hard to agree on .

The Mopar's will get a weight break to start and I dont agree with that .

To me that seems to be a advantage to the Mopar cars ,a new 428 mustang is not going to run 6.0 in the 1/8 mile at 3250 lbs and either is the 352 so those cars will need help and it does not appear that that has been taken into consideration at ths time

I think ADRL should use NHRA legal cars to start and run them for a few race and then adjust the weights after talking to all the racer who race the series and looking at the data

At this time the new copo camaro is not in the NHRA guide line and agian no body knows what it will run so the only car's that could be runing will be the SC CJ , 428 CJ , 352 CJ and the 5.7 DP , 6.1DP and V10 DP

The great thing about this is that there is a lot of discussion about heads up drag racing which I think is good for our sport . I think ADRL needs everyone input who plans on racing

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Poor compton will have to start buying cheaper booze! Is that the irony?

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Not exactly what I was thinking, but that could be ironic as well.

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Looks cool but whining and complaining will kill it just like Top Stock.Car count will be good at first and then you will be lucky to have 8.

Kevin

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Kevin , I agree with that statement .

The only way to run these cars heads up is blower vs blower and naturally aspirated vs naturally aspirated . All cars weight the same that way you can pump for cubic in ( spec cubic infor all motor's ) , spec blower or throttle body .

Everything else is run what you brug , first one to finish line wins . Every car get pumped , and every blower and throttle body checked

This way if you have spec cubic inches , spec blower and spec throttle body every manufactor has a chance for their cars to race . It would not matter rather the copo camaro is in the NHRA giude you could just build one to race .

this way every car has the same weight

What about the C6 corvette ? can it run ? it's a new car and a muscle car as well

ADRL hope your reading this , dont make the same mistakes NHRA and IHRA have made in the past

Bring them all in Cobra Jet , Drag Pack , Viper , Corvette and Camaro

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Already trying to change everything, we all know how hard it is for some to be legal! This wanting to change the rules from what Stock Elminator is is more for the haves than the have not's. ADRL keep it as close to produced as possible!

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This needs to be Stocker combinations or it will fail on day one.

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Doesn't the NMRA already have a mustang blower size restriction heads up class? Why bother to water this half assed stock class down any further when you can just go there and race?

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Why do you care so much?

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x100 !

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I would agree to keep it stock but by who's rules . Right now NHRA has weight breaks for the cars . As I stated above keep NHRA for now , dont give the mopars a weight break or anyone else. Race them and see what happens .

Giving the mopars a weight break for their car's and not giving the CJ428 or 352 a weight break does not seem fair .

If a weight break is fair for the mopars then it should be fair for the fords or just leave it alone and race them under NHRA weight's and be done with it .

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Bo if someone races the new class from North Carolina you might want to check the car for nitrous.

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?????

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A 100 % heads up race is definetely not The salvation of SS/STk.

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You are right on, on this Very Little impact on the real S-SS Eliminator racers.

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Super Stock would much easier on ADRL to tech. I'm sure they pump the winning cars but can anyone see them doing a complete Stock teardown? I hear it takes new specialty tools to check the overhead cams on the Mustangs.

With S/S the cars would be faster for the show and current new model stockers have most items legal for S/S anyway.

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This cracked me up:

“I think the new factory hot rods are the Cobra Jets and equivalent.” Kershaw told CompetitionPlus.com earlier this month. “The fans love them for the same reason they loved the Pro Stockers when Bob Glidden was so successful for us, they look like real cars and their performance is awe inspiring with factory hardware. The fan can relate to a car that has the same body and engine parts as the car they see at the Ford dealer. Stock Eliminator is poised to be the new battleground."


Well, yeah Mr. Kershaw. Except for one thing. Ford won't even put a street legal production car in the stock car classification guide.

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Check for Nitrous? What state was Darrell Alderman from? Larry, where do you live? Ha!

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Bill, Musgrave and Sullivan were from Fairfield IL., Alderman is from Morehead, KY. Alderman had a problem but it was nose related.

I live in the only county in Kentucky that has a bayou in it.

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My point gentlemen was that this opportunity may generate some interest in SS/STK in people other than the participants of this forum.
The ADRL may if it proves popular provide a more racer friendly racing environment with relevant purses.
The NHRA doesn't seem too interested.

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Does anybody know what the weights were at the Dutch Classic Shootout?

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David , I think I have a copy of the rules at my office . Will check and post if I do

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they were a little heavier, and more detailed.

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as a owner of a dp i would love to go to a race like that.im doing this car on a shoe string budget and ill never be able to compete with a barton motor,but at least ill be with people who like these cars.

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What makes you say that? I haven't given you a price yet.

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Jeff,

Before I start complaining, I want to say how I think this is a great idea and thank you and everyone involved for creating a new playground for us. If there is anything I can do to help let me know.

What is the story with the weights. Obviously a 5.7 can't weigh the same as a 6.4 or a 428. When can we expect to hear officially what the final weights are?

Is there a rule book somewhere?
Will the Pro Tree be 4 or 5 tenths?
Will it be a Pro ladder?
Who will be checking the internals of the engines?

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Here are the weights from the Dutch Classic:

Min Wt w/driver: Auto Man
08/ Ford Mustang 330/425 3550 3730
10/ Ford Mustang 330/435 3695 3770
10/ Ford Mustang 428/375 3080 2980
12/ Ford Mustang 330/450 3725 3800

09/ Dodge Challenger 370/385 3200 3100
10/ Dodge Challenger 370/390 3200 3100
10/ Dodge Challenger 392/375 3200 3100
11/ Dodge Challenger 512/450 3590 3490

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.5 pro tree, sportsman ladder, fast loser comes back (no bye after rd 1)probably 3250 v8 unblown, 3450 v10 un blown, 3650 blown, the 428 ford still to be determined. None of this in stone, but kinda cement. stick/auto same. Tech undetermined, but it will be there. NHRA specs, 9 in tires, More as it becomes available. There really has been a lot of attention, and I think it will be fun.

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We seem to be making great progress. Hot Rod Magazine is indicating they will cover the first event in Houston, and Mopar and Ford have indicated some parts contingency for the series, and are working on more contingency from more sponsors. The Hot Rod Magazine would be a return to old covering the hot races of the year.

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Thats pretty funny right there. DP and shoestring budget shouldn't be in the same sentence. Not in my type of shoe string budget anyway.

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Harry, on the surface that would seem to be true. I have sold several to people who were doing a different program; a budget car figured to take 2 or more years and one or two of them are out already, and I know of two that will appear this year. One thing these folks have benefited from is the research and development done since then. These glitches are now mostly known, different parts are available to fix them or simply speed up the car, make them leave, new parts are becoming available quite often now etc. so it has, in my opinion, made the task a little easier. There is something to be said about racing a brand new car.

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david if i ever get to that point you will be my first call.
as for a shoe string budget i mean i have given up all the extra things in my life(except beer)to get this car done.not because its under factored but because it cool as hell....

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Stick guy, I am really happy you didn't give up beer. That just shows there is hope for humanity.

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looking forward to seeing you guys at maple grove. I'll be driving from long island to see this race. and your class is why I'd go.
Chris.

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http://www.adrl.us/2012/01/adrl’s-...und-the-globe/

This keeps getting cooler.

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The Bugatti is the only other car I can see hanging with the CJ Mustangs and DP Challengers

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It is all over but the crying.I want to see these cars in a tear down barn,now that is funny right their

Kevin