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No I did not - can you post them?

Also please explain the point

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Check them out in the archives on Drag Central......

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Weather and altitude wasn't the same, way more cars running down the same track which does not always help traction so how can you compare ET's from testing to the winternationals. Have any national records even been set in PS at Pomona in the past few years?

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John Kelley,
Where in the archives on Drag Race Central can you find last years Bradenton times? Please post a link or I would greatly appreciate an email.
Thanks, Bill

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Hmmmm...
All I find is the Moroso times for nitro cars......http://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCSt...r2011#indextop
But I remember a big difference in Pro Stock times from testing and Pomona.
I wish I still kept my old National Dragsters. Somebody must have some from last year with the times in them...

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Here ya go Toby...... How about that Courtney Force ? LMAO

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This from last year pre season testing.......
http://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCSt...r2011#indextop

And this......http://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCSt...r2011#indextop

And then OUT in First round at POMONA......hype is hype

Re: Team Mopar Records Unofficial Fastest Pass in Pro Stock
 

Bradenton Motorsports Park 65ft above sea level

Pomona 1100ft above sea level

Add in the different weather conditions and surprise, surprise, no sub 6.5 runs.

Allen got tattooed on the tree as well. (.002 to .055) That will lose a race in Pro Stock most weekends when you give 53 thousandths to the guy in the other lane. Surprisingly enough, Vincent's run would have beat everyone else in the round besides Jason Line.

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Allen always performs well calling him middle of the pack is a little severe. Middle of the pack in Pro Stock is seldom more that 2 hundredths off the pole. His Dad makes good power, and is a very friendly guy. Allen is typically on the tree, but kids taking shots at the tree with .002 lights can take out anybody that makes a tight field like Pro Stock. Most Pro Stock racers consider him a tough opponent. He's a good racer.

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Yup, the fastest and quickest use Marks headers! Imagine how fast Team Mopar would be with Precision Welding Racing Headers? Jim


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Todays ProStockers are unrecognizable without the name being printed on the car.
Nice to see the latest development of the original concept.

Top Stock tried to revitalize the original concept but have seen little of that in a while.

Think the key issue that killed it was trying to balance the HP values of too many engines.

IMHO Top Stock Eliminator cars should be a seperate class from Stock.

Set the weight limit to 8.00#/cuin.
Minimum weight of 3200lbs
650 CFM Carb limit, No Hood scoops, Stock Hoods.
Any Cylinder Head, Iron Blocks, NA.
Use Engine Master rules to build a 2500-6500rpm engines.
Maximum Cam Lift .550 any Rocker
10 Inch tire, Stocker Suspensions.

Have a Frontal Surface Varience factor for big faced cars.
That way a slick Vette and Polara can compete.
AND so racers can have something to gosip about.

All other Stock Eliminator Rules in play..

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I believe the idea of Top Stock was to be able to use a "legal" class car and adjust the weight accordingly. This way you can run the car in the eliminator as well.

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60 degrees out there good weather how fast did those guys run out west?

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Mike Edwards #1 again.

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Doesn't get much lower than that Tommy. Of course we could say they got Eckman and Orndorf kind of help also ....

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Yep! Mike Edwards has no idea what a soft tune up is. 0.982 sixty on the first pass and 168mph to the eighth. His car was moving on both ends. Looks like everyone else was a lil soft, undergeared, or too aggressive in the first round.

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Well look what happened when they all had to weight and fuel check, like i said on an earlier post this happens almost every year and then somebody has to say look how fast they are,

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Then Jason Line knocked him down to 2nd by a hundredth.

Last night the announcer said Alan Johnson has run extremely fast in pre-season testing before then appeared to struggle to match it when the season starts.

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another thing when they test in Florida they are 50 feet above SEA LEVEL Pomona is like 1600 feet ABOVE(claremont airport is across the street from the track)---take some time off for that- coupla hun at least--while some people can run great times and test at 1600 feet not bogus times like those 50 footers

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Yeah, but how about that Courtney Force!!!

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LMAO ! You go Toby ! Good luck today !

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It's still unoffical???

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Greg Anderson and PONTIAC wins Pomona! Had the slopar by half a car at the finish!!

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They don't even MAKE Pontiacs anymore.

Oh; I forgot... it doesn't have a Pontiac engine....

So, what kind of an engine DOES it have??? Oh; it's a "one-size-fits-all" derivitave of Warren's D.R.C.E. engine, which was a derivative of a big block Chevy... which is a G.M. "corporate" V-8.... that comes in ~NO~ 2012 car that I know of...

I get so confused.... :(

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It's called a high dollar Crate Motor car Bill. Jim

What is the time limit on the Pontiac? Are they ignoring it or will they ALL be Chevy bodies soon?


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What exactly does the engine that the Mopar boys have come in? GM was using the Big block way more recent than any big blocks in a Mopar Not to mention when was the last charger two door car go down the assembly line. At least I think that is what body that they are running.

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I used to LOVE Pro Stock but I have to admit, Pro Stock has become nothing but a high dollar crate motor class. It bares absolutely no resemblance no the cars of even 5 years ago let alone the original intent. The HEMI is still based loosely on the original street HEMI. The GM engine however is a whole different power plant than the original BBC or any engine offered by GM. Does it even matter now? Nah, it's all crap now. It all makes as much sense as painting TOYOTA on the side of a Chrysler HEMI based engine powered TF car! Nah, it's all crap now. Jim


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Wouldn't it be nice if NHRA made the driver wt 200# (170#? Anyone flown this century?) and if you are below that you had to add it at the seat, not move it around the car for extra weight distibution?

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Well, that "Hemi" doesn't resemble anything that ever came down an assembly line, but neither do any of the other motors. I was just pointing out the absurdity that exits in calling this Eliminator "Pro STOCK."

There; not a part on ANY of those cars that ever came down a stock production assembly line.

There's not even a Pontiac assembly line in existence, any more... :(

So, where's the "STOCK"???

But this is nothing new; and has been going on for years. I will have to admit that even though those cars are not configured anything like I would like to see them, they do make for some VERY tight fields, generally, and for some close racing. A Mopar and a G.M.-powered car in the final at yesteday's Pomona race, and the MOV was about 8 feet... That's close for two different powerplants, I think.

They just need to change the name of the Eliminator from "Pro Stock" to "Expensive Crate Motor."

Re: Team Mopar Records Unofficial Fastest Pass in Pro Stock
 

Most of them are Avengers. They do currently offer them at your local Dodge dealer. Jim


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They should be in the new Camaro body soon.

Re: Team Mopar Records Unofficial Fastest Pass in Pro Stock
 

Arnie Martel's new car is beautiful! Saw it in person this weekend. Jim


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I'm not picking on any make, but when I hear big numbers "In Testing" or "In Bracket Mode" makes me think they are not quite at legal weight.

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in a pro/stock final a 1/2 of a tenth is light years..

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They are just unblown gas funny (Ha Ha) cars. As time goes on ALL (including stock and Super Stock) of the classes have morphed into something that does not resemble Wallys NHRA.

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http://dragracecentral.com/DRCStory....er=30#indextop

Looks like Allen Johnson just made another fluke run.

6.486 @ 211.93 I guessed they lucked up again ?