Re: Ken Keir wheelie bars
 

HP HUNTER should be along any minute now.;)

Re: Ken Keir wheelie bars
 

Why don't you just use your real name? And quit putting pictures of you cars in your posts? We have seen them, OK?

Re: Ken Keir wheelie bars
 

I've been 1320racer on the net for a long long time, besides you know my name and I didn't read any rule from Ken stating that photos and/or videos weren't allowed in posts.

Re: Ken Keir wheelie bars
 

Not sure about that, new to your forum. My question here is this, and its a very legitemit question thats needs a real answer, how does a 10.07 @ 131 = a 1.28 60, that car is not moving hard enough down low to run that, as evidenced by the 131 MPH. Pump gas, you on the forum look at the exhaust, it doesnt look like pump gas to me. Now you will say I have a problem with the performance, not so, compression (11.5), roller cam, single plane, big double pumper holley, ported heads, and so on, my goodness, I would hope the car could run a 10.07 especially at Atco. The car runs 9.89 @ 134 and change, again high MPH for the ET, certainly you would have a faster 60 with the 522, show us the time slip, certainly this is a fair request, put this to bed. Looks like the picture of the exhaust will have to wait till later, it will need to be resized.

Re: Ken Keir wheelie bars
 

again...who are you?

That said, this thread ain't about my former ride, it's about wheelie bars specifically Ken Keir's single wheelie bar.

I have advised my internet friend Garret aka 40Coupe on this matter the same as I have advised him for over 10 years.

If you have nothing further to add to this thread by replying to the question asked and about the car in question and are only interested in my former ride and what it did 5 years ago, I suggest you start a new thread in the Bracket Racing Forum about it and be sure to include your real verifiable name.

Oh and for the record...the 1.28 was not carded on the 10.07 pass which was at ETown NOT Atco, it was run at Piedmont Dragway as can be seen in the photo. The compression is 11:1 NOT 11.5 and the 522 was run then as it is now with a restrictor plate.

Re: Ken Keir wheelie bars
 

My advice to the thread starter was to install the wheelie bar, and from that point try and improve upon his proven 1.28 60 foot times. You posted the pictures of the red chevelle, I simply asked for a time slip, thats all...........:)

Re: Ken Keir wheelie bars
 

I would sure hope the 9.89 was done on the restrictor, for heaven sakes!

Re: Ken Keir wheelie bars
 

show us in that thread you're going to start all the 3900 lb. small tire Chevelles with a bolt on suspension that run 10.07 n/a with a nothing special 11:1 468 no mind 9.89 through a full exhaust and launched off the footbrake too.:rolleyes: Don't forget to include detailed photos of every aspect of the car(s)

your request has been denied just as my request to stop hiding behind a screen name.

Besides I like it better that you and those like you refuse to believe.

No doubt you and I have been down this roads before years ago on another board(s).

Re: Ken Keir wheelie bars
 

I dont believe the 1.28 60, because of what Ive seen the car run, period. Sorry, would like to see a time slip.

Re: Ken Keir wheelie bars
 

10.07, 131, 1.28, those numbers are all in line for a decent run.
134 is not a big MPH for a 9.89
None of those are fast for big engines, however.

Re: Ken Keir wheelie bars
 

Last post about my former ride and what it ran 5 years ago...thank you Ed but again, the 1.28 was carded on a 1/8th pass at Piedmont Dragway on 11/24/07 @ 11:48am not the 10.07 pass at ETown 5 years ago. But I do have a few 1.29 and 1.30 60 foots printed on time slips from ETown and Atco and again, the 134 MPH is with a 1 3/8" restrictor plate under the 4150 carb

Re: Ken Keir wheelie bars
 

I know of a few small tire, stock suspension chevelles that run circles around either the iron head combo, or the 522 combo, and thats a fact.

Re: Ken Keir wheelie bars
 

start the thread in Bracket Racing and post the combos and detailed photos Mike.;) :p

Re: Ken Keir wheelie bars
 

I disagree, 131 is toooooooooo much MPH for a hard leavin 10.07, everything is in line except the 1.28, unless there was a big tailwind, and I mean big. 134 is big to me for a 9.89.

Re: Ken Keir wheelie bars
 

Here is the picture of the pump gas Chevelle I promised but it sure looks like race gas to me lol :):rolleyes::)


http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w...65/racegas.jpg

Re: Ken Keir wheelie bars
 

you're really reaching trying to prove something you can't.

BTW, that photo was taken 12 years ago.

Not only was it run on pump gas, I was still driving it to ETown 75 miles each way, Atco 130 miles each way and Island 60 miles each way every week back in 2000.:p

Too funny, those that refuse to believe are still talking about a car that I sold nearly 4 years ago and performance I reported 5 years ago.

Good to know that after 5 years some have caught up even if it took bigger engines, more compression, aluminum heads, dominator carbs, lite weight transmissions, etc. and all in cars that weigh hundreds of pounds less, to do so.;)

Meanwhile, he still hiding behind a screen name and still hasn't started a thread in Bracket Racing where this belongs.

Re: Ken Keir wheelie bars
 

You don't know what your talking about. SS cars do that all the time. That's a decent pass for an 11lb small block automatic SS car.

Re: Ken Keir wheelie bars
 

Ed, of course he don't know what he's talking about.

Re: Ken Keir wheelie bars
 

Hey its winter,pass the popcorn ;)

Kevin

Re: Ken Keir wheelie bars
 

lol!

Btw, What is that circled in that photo? I use VP in my car, and don't have anything like that on my car. What is that?

Re: Ken Keir wheelie bars
 

Have you ever ran a chevelle like the one in question? 3800 pound chevelles that run 10.0s DO NOT RUN 1.28 60s, he cant even put up a 1.2 60 with the 522 much less the 454. Example: pump gas chevelle full weight 9.98 @ 130.9 6.27 660, 1.31 60, you explain how Eds putting 3 hundreths in the 60 on this with a slower ET but more MPH.

Re: Ken Keir wheelie bars
 

Hey I just happened to pull an old ND from 1988 when I was RU at the MidSouths in Memphis. Round 3 - 10.05 @ 134.84 in SS/B and I normally ran 1.27 1.29 in 60.
Same round - Jim Hale SS/BA 10.03 @ 134.85

I'd say those numbers were pretty accurate since I've run them myself.

Re: Ken Keir wheelie bars
 

can't be cause the guy hiding behind a sceen name says it can't happen.:rolleyes:

Those statements might fuel the clueless elsewhere on the net but they'll get you nowhere here on classracer.;)

Thanks for stating the TRUTH Scott.

Re: Ken Keir wheelie bars
 

But the car didnt weigh 3880, thats what Im saying, and it wasnt on stock type suspension, just post the proof, that would settle the disagreement, you said you have the time slips, simple enough. I think its possible a low 3000 pound 4 link car could go 1.28, just not @ 3880 with bolt ons, If someones done it, please step up. Bobby Ds 69 A/SA Camaro 9.90s @ 130 @ 3670 I believe the 60 was 1.30, 2 hundreds quicker, two hundred pounds heavier, would be hard to come by.

Re: Ken Keir wheelie bars
 

This is funny as hell.Maybe it was a conspiracy theory;),yup thats it.He posted video,times,etc that were all a lie then sold the car to hide from the truth:rolleyes:.So how fast is your car HP Hunter??:confused:

Kevin

Re: Ken Keir wheelie bars
 

This isnt about my car, this about the red 68 chevelle running 1.28 60 foots @ 3880 with his iron headed 454, yes the car did run 10.07 which I have no problem with, how could it not run that, roller cam, 11.1 comp, ported heads, big holley, single plane, negative 1500 feet Da, 30.4 barometer, its a wonder it didnt run faster.

Re: Ken Keir wheelie bars
 

and this isn't about my car either but you're trying real hard. Meanwhile nothing but lies and misinformation in that post!:rolleyes:

The EXACT weather conditions on that day in May 2007 moments before that run, taken in the lanes with my PerformAire Eclipse weather station/ET predictor were...
76.8*, 20.6% humidity, 29.97 barometer and 1457' DA.

No one cares what you think. This ain't TC or YB. You've signed up here for one reason and one reason only.

That said, I'm honored that 5 years later the peformance that I achieved with my Chevelle is still the benchmark by which team clueless aka the test/tune crowd measures their own.

http://www.streetfire.net/video/ed-b...lle_105744.htm

http://www.streetfire.net/video/ed-b...lle_105748.htm

deep staged as was everyone of it's 4000+ passes in competition

http://i381.photobucket.com/albums/o...r/Atco07-1.jpg

Re: Ken Keir wheelie bars
 

Your the one who brought the car up on this thread, walking around with your chest puffed out:Dthe cars never been a 1.28 60, if it did you would just post the time slip. Actually I signed up over a week ago, but when I saw you giving advice to someone who clearly out performs anything you've ever done in over 20 years of racing, I couldnt resist. (deep staged as was everyone of it's 4000+ passes in competition)
Is that 1.28 Jersey math LOL

Re: Ken Keir wheelie bars
 

Deleted myself.

Re: Ken Keir wheelie bars
 

Omg.......

Re: Ken Keir wheelie bars
 

Dude. Go away!!!!! You are out of your league here. ET and MPH are not based on weight or hp or heads or cubic inches alone. MPH is a product of hp to weight ratio and there is a formula (1320 / MPH = ET) that is for an optimum pass. This formula doesn't ask for weight. This formula doesn't ask for air conditions. There for it wouldn't matter if his car weighted 7000# and had a nitro funny car engine in it you still wouldn't believe it went 1.28 60'. Its obvious that he put you on the trailer some years back and you can't get over it. I think its time you take up a different sport, maybe underwater basket weaving or something.

Re: Ken Keir wheelie bars
 

You have no idea of what your talking about. As far as being out of my league, I dont think so. Have you EVER run a footbrake NA heavy small tire car? If so give some examples.

Re: Ken Keir wheelie bars
 

You win. I don't know what I'm talking about. No I have never run a footbrake NA heavy small tire car. I drive my car with a clutch :D then I shift it with my hand all the way down the track. My car is closer to the 4000# mark and on stock leaf spring suspension on 9" tires. Now since you know everything. What should my car run on 9" tires and about 4000#. It seems like this is all the info you need to be able to tell someone that they can or can't do something.:rolleyes:

Re: Ken Keir wheelie bars
 

Ok, tell me your HP and conditions the car is run in. But it does not 60 foot 1.28. With out getting into an arguement could you post your times, 60 330 660 1320. Think about this: If we run a car the same as the car in question, and it runs 1.31 6.27 9.98 @ 130.9 and Ed runs 10.07 @ 131 why cant you class racers see why I find it hard to believe how a car that runs more MPH and a slower ET (10.07) has a 3 hundreths faster 60 foot, were talking about the same exact bodied car here. Read my post carefully.

Re: Ken Keir wheelie bars
 

I'm not getting in to the details of my car with you. But I do think that Chevelle with the info given could and should 60' in the low 1.30's to high 1.20's with an automatic. In my opinion the automatics 60' better than the stick cars.

Re: Ken Keir wheelie bars
 

1.2 60s have been done, but not by Eds car, but it does run low 1.3 60s, theres a big difference from a low 1.3 to a 1.28.

Re: Ken Keir wheelie bars
 

I agree the auto would be better under most cases with a 30x9, but some of these guys are awful good with the clutch, example: Kip Martin 1.32 60s @ 10.3s, 3000 pound car, of course that isnt a stocker either.

Re: Ken Keir wheelie bars
 

So you are okay with Kip's numbers being a 1.32 60' running 10.30's but not a 1.28 60 running 10.00's. I get it.... :rolleyes:

Re: Ken Keir wheelie bars
 

Yes I am, theres a big difference between a 2950-3000 pound backhalved SS car running 1.32 60 @ 10.30 and a 3880 pound bolt on suspension car running 1.28 @ 10.07. I dont think you understand how far the gap is between those 4 hundreths. Wouldnt it just be easier to post the time slip with the 1.28 and put all this to rest??

Re: Ken Keir wheelie bars
 

again because the guy hiding behind a screen name who registered soley to pursue his agenda says it can't be. Too funny. Somebody better tell Kevin Borgstom and Joe Abazzia who both went 1.29 60 foot in their B/SA Chevelles and at a slower ET if I remember correctly and with LESS power than my 468.;)

That said, the accusations from the internet experts and careet test/tuners is nothing new, you name it, they've said it, going back over 10 years ago and long before my ride ran a 10.07 and a 1.28 60 foot. Those that refuse to believe say it didn't weight 3880 lbs. it wasn't a 468, I was spraying it, the clocks were off, jersey math, yada, yada, yada and not 1 has ever seen it in person. Meanwhile numerous racers who know the car, who have actually seen it run and who competed with me weekly, as well my engine builder have stated online it was exactly as I have posted.

Now, unlike the rest of the drag racing forums on the net whose posters are largely career test/tuners, bench racers and dreamers, this group here, largely class racers, know that the peformance I had achieved with my Chevelle while impressive and on par with some of the best stockers back in 2007 is not only believeable, it's not all that difficult to do with a properly preppared car especially given my engine was not stock eliminator legal. This is what this guy fails to understand...the devil is in the details and my Chevelle while bracket raced was a built as if a stocker!

On that note, up untill 2007 when I retired the 468, my Chevelle ran quicker and faster than EVERY 454, 496, 502, GM's 720HP 572 and most 540's in a similar Chevelle here in Division 1 brackets!

Now, many of the same group that have doubted the combo and performance of my Chevelle, also doubt the combo and performance of my current ride that has 60 footed 1.17 off the footbrake!

Truth me told, today 5 years later, I could have the same car/combo at the same weight running new best numbers at least 2 tenths quicker and maybe even run a 1.27 60 foot.:D

Thanks to those that have sent me PMs and my appologies to Ken for the direction this thread has gone.