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davidhuff 07-31-2012 01:35 PM

Re: Erica & Greg?
 
I know for a fact that Erica kept saying to Greg on ESPN more than once "Greg you are the best"sure sounds like she was trying to apologize to him.Am I the only one that saw that exchange on ESPN?

CycloneFE 07-31-2012 01:49 PM

Re: Erica & Greg?
 
Seems to me there is an awful lot of comments regarding something most say they don't watch.

troublemaker427 07-31-2012 01:51 PM

Re: Erica & Greg?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Don Sofranko (Post 338144)
Win some lose some...
It comes down to hot rods, and hot rodders.
I don't believe the Disney character has ever tested a valve spring or pulled a hot clutch disc.
Respect to team K-B, they all work up until the last second, and maybe the driving suffers for it.
Many drivers and owners are chair weights, and I suppose that is the way the sport is going.
For my respect, they need to know every aspect of the hot rod, before they dump the clutch.
If all you know is Sharpie point quality, then you are just a celebrity, updating your blog on how great you are.
Thanks for informing us who couldn't get enough blog pictures. It looks like they need to play the video on how her boots were so shaking, that she deep staged the Chevy on Sunday, and went red because of it. Shaking in your boots is hardly bad ***.

This right here is what I'm talking about. Great post...

Sean Marconette 07-31-2012 01:52 PM

Re: Erica & Greg?
 
Everyone can say what they want about the situation, but what you have to admire is a comment was made on national TV. Erica confronted Greg right then and there as to what was the issue and why did it not get addressed face to face a month ago. It does show what someone is made of, like it or not. If you have something to say about someone be professional enough to look them in the eyes and say it.

Sean

Superfan1 07-31-2012 04:37 PM

Re: Erica & Greg?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Wright (Post 338204)
Maybe it's his interviews.

When he wins, he credits the team, and when he loses he blames himself; I would think he should be admired not despised.

davidhuff 07-31-2012 04:48 PM

Re: Erica & Greg?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Superfan1 (Post 338240)
When he wins, he credits the team, and when he loses he blames himself; I would think he should be admired not despised.

Also when he loses he should walk over and congratulate the winner and then he would be admired.

Superfan1 07-31-2012 04:53 PM

Re: Erica & Greg?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by davidhuff (Post 338241)
Also when he loses he should walk over , shake hands and congratulate the winner and then he would be admired.

I agree, he was out of line when he lost to Erica; but does one act of poor judgement merit the dislike that a large number of people have for him?

treessavoy 07-31-2012 05:11 PM

Re: Erica & Greg?
 
I was at the gator's one year and was standing around Greg's pit. I was watching his crew but there were a number of people seeking autographs. All of a sudden he just got up and walked away, no "excuse me" or "thanks I've got to go" nope, he just got up and walked away without a word.

Here's Class. In 1986 at Atlanta Bob Glidden's parachute came out sideways and wrapped around the wheelie bars and he rolled 13 times. As soon as it stopped he got out and covered his intake. They towed his car to the trailer and loaded it up. I happened to walk by and started to talk to him and even after this disaster he took the time to talk to me as if I was a fellow competitor, a really nice guy.

JimR

SuperStock fan 07-31-2012 05:16 PM

Re: Erica & Greg?
 
I'm one of the bigger fans who like team Summit. Greg and Jason are very good drivers but every dog has his/her day. I think Greg could have handled himself better at the RT 66 race. I think he has more class than that but he is not showing it now nor did he show it at Englishtown or the U.S. nationals last year in front of his team mate Jason who took a dive at e-town! The picture of Erica in front of Greg's trailer is Priceless!!

Paul M.

Ed Wright 07-31-2012 05:21 PM

Re: Erica & Greg?
 
I'm a big fan of Jason. Greg, not so much.

Ed Carpenter 07-31-2012 06:20 PM

Re: Erica & Greg?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Superfan1 (Post 338242)
I agree, he was out of line when he lost to Erica; but does one act of poor judgement merit the dislike that a large number of people have for him?

He doesn't make it a practice of giving the other driver credit when they beat him. Hell one race earlier this year he walked away from Jason after he got his ***** handed to him. I really like Jason he's a class act. He needs to go rub some of that on Greg. IMO

Tim Ellis 07-31-2012 06:59 PM

Re: Erica & Greg?
 
I'm not a Greg fan , I AM a Jeggie fan, yet I buy lots more from Summit than Jegs. Guess I should change that, I do like summit, just not so much Greg.

jpfanclub 07-31-2012 07:01 PM

Re: Erica & Greg?
 
Who care's i thougth this forum was about stock and super stock racers not the 3 ring circus thats call the pro classes. This is just my opinion so nobody get mad,thanks.:D

Ed Wright 07-31-2012 07:11 PM

Re: Erica & Greg?
 
A lot of us do like Pro Stock. Personally I don't care anything about the fuel cars. If you don't like it, you don't have to read it. Right? ;-)

jpfanclub 07-31-2012 07:18 PM

Re: Erica & Greg?
 
I like pro stock to i guess i had a brain fart. Go Allen Johnson and team mopar.

davidhuff 07-31-2012 07:24 PM

Re: Erica & Greg?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jpfanclub (Post 338274)
I like pro stock to i guess i had a brain fart. Go Allen Johnson and team mopar.

Great choice,Allen Johnson Racing sure looks to be Bad *****!

Ed Wright 07-31-2012 07:27 PM

Re: Erica & Greg?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by davidhuff (Post 338276)
Great choice,Allen Johnson Racing sure looks to be Bad *****!

That's one fast Dodge! And Roy, the HP man, is a very nice guy.

Ed Fernandez 07-31-2012 11:41 PM

Re: Erica & Greg?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Wright (Post 338278)
That's one fast Dodge! And Roy, the HP man, is a very nice guy.

Jeez,I hope some maniac on bath salts doesn't break into their shop and start chewing on the engines
Calm down only a bit of levity.

treessavoy 07-31-2012 11:59 PM

Re: Erica & Greg?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Fernandez (Post 338321)
Jeez,I hope some maniac on bath salts doesn't break into their shop and start chewing on the engines
Calm down only a bit of levity.

If he wins a couple of more with the big Mopar they'll start complaining and the GM NHRA will legislate them out of competition.....it's not like it hasn't happened before.

JimR

RULER 08-01-2012 12:39 AM

Re: Erica & Greg?
 
Oh you mean like the time when the Mopar shop was broke in too and all there good engines were destroyed, and some how they could never build another that could run as good as the broken one's ????? Things that make think how can this Be!!!!!!!!!!!

Steves68Nova 08-01-2012 02:43 AM

Re: Erica & Greg?
 
It really get to me when people say that Erica does not deserve anything because "Daddy writes the check". Erica has been driving for quite awhile now. She lost her ride and went out and beat the bushes for another sponsor. She is a pretty fair driver and has spent her time as a novice. She may not work on her car, but she has worked to make the program work. As for "Daddy writing the checks" she is hardly the first to have Daddy write the checks. For one Shane Gray's Dad has put a lot of money in his program. Greg may not have the best or personalities, but he also has worked for what he has and had. None likes to lose and his just was on national TV.

Ed Wright 08-01-2012 08:09 AM

Re: Erica & Greg?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by treessavoy (Post 338322)
If he wins a couple of more with the big Mopar they'll start complaining and the GM NHRA will legislate them out of competition.....it's not like it hasn't happened before.

JimR

When?

SSDiv6 08-01-2012 08:42 AM

Re: Erica & Greg?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Wright (Post 338337)
When?

Ed...you are old enough to remember when there were weight breaks in Pro Stock. :D

Every time a Mopar or Ford Cleveland would go faster than a GM, they would get punished.
Jeez...even the AMC's took a beating in the weight breaks when they started to go fast...

Ed Wright 08-01-2012 08:57 AM

Re: Erica & Greg?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SSDiv6 (Post 338339)
Ed...you are old enough to remember when there were weight breaks in Pro Stock. :D

Every time a Mopar or Ford Cleveland would go faster than a GM, they would get punished.
Jeez...even the AMC's took a beating in the weight breaks when they started to go fast...

No weight breaks now. BBCs & SBCs, short wheel bases, Fords, every body got "adjusted" back then.
People just complained about (and now only seem to remember) the changes that effected them or their heros.

Alan Roehrich 08-01-2012 09:39 AM

Re: Erica & Greg?
 
Yeah, they never penalized the Chevrolets, or wrote special rules for Bill Jenkins when the Chevrolets won. :rolleyes:

Nothing like that ever happened. :rolleyes:

Selective memory is a wonderful thing, ain't it?

It ain't like half the rule book in Pro Stock was written to stop Bill Jenkins from going fast.

It's amazing, Ford and Chrysler just hang right in there, even though they've never gotten a break, or preferential treatment, from NHRA in 60 years, while Chevrolet gets everything handed to them on a silver platter. :rolleyes:

cutta 08-01-2012 09:47 AM

Re: Erica & Greg?
 
Why is this daddy write check stuff so important when Greg Anderson has one of the most well funded teams racing in Pro Stock. Ken Black spends plenty as well. The funny thing is that most of you have failed to realized that Pro Stock is no longer about being a good driver, you have to bring money to the table as well. Thats probably the only reason that Dave Connoly and other great drivers are not in a car now.

As far as Greg is concerned, people dislike him because he one of those drivers that doesn't always know how to come back down to reality after a loss. When he loses, its as if he's still in the car and takes him a while to settle back down. Essentially, most people would like him to lighten up a little bit when things go wrong. Unfortunately, everyone can't be the same, so the each his own. On another note, I love how Allen and Jason can't find time to joke around in the midst of the seriousness of racing, it fun to watch and in my opinion how it should be. Serious in the car, back to reality once you get out.


Also, why is that when Allen Johnson goes fast, people refer to the Wayne County Deal? Why not just express that I dislike mopar and acknowledge that Roy, Jim, Mark, and Allen are doing a great job to make their car fast?

George Fitzpatrick 08-01-2012 09:49 AM

Re: Erica & Greg?
 
I believe back in the early seventy’s from 1972 until ?. The pro stock Hemi was carrying 7.25 per cube and Chevy’s were @7.00. Don’t know what date they changed to 500 ci for all

troublemaker427 08-01-2012 11:32 AM

Re: Erica & Greg?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cutta (Post 338351)
Why is this daddy write check stuff so important when Greg Anderson has one of the most well funded teams racing in Pro Stock. Ken Black spends plenty as well. The funny thing is that most of you have failed to realized that Pro Stock is no longer about being a good driver, you have to bring money to the table as well. Thats probably the only reason that Dave Connoly and other great drivers are not in a car now.

As far as Greg is concerned, people dislike him because he one of those drivers that doesn't always know how to come back down to reality after a loss. When he loses, its as if he's still in the car and takes him a while to settle back down. Essentially, most people would like him to lighten up a little bit when things go wrong. Unfortunately, everyone can't be the same, so the each his own. On another note, I love how Allen and Jason can't find time to joke around in the midst of the seriousness of racing, it fun to watch and in my opinion how it should be. Serious in the car, back to reality once you get out.


Also, why is that when Allen Johnson goes fast, people refer to the Wayne County Deal? Why not just express that I dislike mopar and acknowledge that Roy, Jim, Mark, and Allen are doing a great job to make their car fast?

Cutta, you make my point in your first paragraph. If Erica didn't have her father buying the ride Dave Connoly would be in the seat. Last I checked Erica's father doesn't own her team but does provide backing so she get's the ride. Dave is a better driver, everyone knows that but he doesn't have someone paying the team owner so he doesn't drive.

Ken Black should be spending money. He owns the team, Erica's dad doesn't.

Like who you like, I don't really care. The days of Glidden and Nicholson are gone but I do respect those who spin wrenches much more than those who buy their ride.

EMMONS MOTORSPORTS 08-01-2012 12:37 PM

Re: Erica & Greg?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Andys dad (Post 338148)
Come on guys - this is what sells newspapers - could not be scripted better

man vs woman - good vs bad

It has nothing to do with sportsmanship or professionalism

It is about the making of a story to cover - it is good business for NHRA and sponsors

Controversy sells - there is no bad ink there is only ink (Howard Cosell)

Ron

I agree with Mr. Ron D. I like the personalities both drivers bring to the sport and many of the others. I love them both. Heck, I love everybody...including Kyle Ratcliff and his sheep. Well, maybe not as much as HE loves his sheep but I hear he is working that out in therapy. Pass the popcorn please.

copperhead 08-01-2012 01:01 PM

Re: Erica & Greg?
 
Speaking of Daddy writing the checks...how come no one has mentioned Jeggie? Brandon Berstein? Tony Schumacher?
Sure, Jeg is a great all around racer, but where would he be without the company his father started? Do you think he's wrenching on the motor or grabbing that hot clutch disc? I doubt it.
You all do know that Troy Humphrey (sp?) is Greg's father-in-law, right? You don't think that maybe he was helping fund Greg in the begining?
Give Erica some props. She has been working hard to be successful. Congratulate her for the success and move on.

HR9121 08-01-2012 01:03 PM

Re: Erica & Greg?
 
It doesn't matter who is writing the check just as long as you can get somebody to write a big one. It takes a tremendous amount of money to run these things and the teams will do whatever it takes to get it. If summit racing didn't want to sponsor Greg's team because of his arrogance or attitude he probably would not be driving that car. Erica just happens to bring a sponsor with her, can she drive? I don't know I pretty much believe a monkey could drive one. The deal is who can bring the money to the table gets the ride.

KRatcliff 08-01-2012 01:24 PM

Re: Erica & Greg?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EMMONS MOTORSPORTS (Post 338384)
I agree with Mr. Ron D. I like the personalities both drivers bring to the sport and many of the others. I love them both. Heck, I love everybody...including Kyle Ratcliff and his sheep. Well, maybe not as much as HE loves his sheep but I hear he is working that out in therapy. Pass the popcorn please.

Bastid. I better not see this sticker on my car or I will know who did it. Well...maybe not exactly, but I can narrow it down!

http://i893.photobucket.com/albums/a...ker/travis.png

D.Johns 08-01-2012 02:46 PM

Re: Erica & Greg?
 
I disagree that the driver isn't that important. I think a great driver is absolutely a huge key ingredient in having a successful team. Erica's driving has certainly improved and it's showing in results. In a class that is separated by .07 from #1 and not getting in the show. The driver actually has to cut a light, change all gears and deal with how unstable the cars are on the top end with near zero downforce. I'd say the cars are quite difficult to drive one to the winners circle. Heck Johnson has a huge performance advantage(sitting in #1 spot most times ET/MPH) and he hasn't be dominate in the class(winning every race).
No doubt money is a massive key ingredient but all the money in the world isn't going to make up for a poor or even average driver.

I plan to eventually head to prostock within the next 6-10 years. I do not have the budget to run my own car yet but I'm working on it.

Alan Roehrich 08-01-2012 05:24 PM

Re: Erica & Greg?
 
I'd guess that about 90% of the people driving today at the sportsman level could not drive well enough to make the field in a competitive car.

cutta 08-01-2012 05:26 PM

Re: Erica & Greg?
 
Also, would it not be advantageous to have a driver that only has to worry about driving? Sure, its an impressive feat, but having your mind wonder on you has to be easier when you drive and tune. I know if I owned a team, I wouldn't want my driver to have to worry about what problems the car maybe having and focus only on driving the car. Also, anybody ever think about all of the skill that has to be learned to drive these cars. Knowing when to short shift, having quick responses to guide the car during the 1-2, 2-3 shifts when it moves far out of the groove, being able to feel the car and analyze whats going on, cutting great lights, and the list goes on. I highly doubt that its as easy as some of you claim.

Stk4405 08-01-2012 06:05 PM

Re: Erica & Greg?
 
How are the check writer/engine builder/driver working out in any pro class now these days? Times have changed and I miss them.

Ed Wright 08-01-2012 06:23 PM

Re: Erica & Greg?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich (Post 338420)
I'd guess that about 90% of the people driving today at the sportsman level could not drive well enough to make the field in a competitive car.

I agree.

Ed Fernandez 08-01-2012 11:33 PM

Re: Erica & Greg?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HR9121 (Post 338390)
It doesn't matter who is writing the check just as long as you can get somebody to write a big one. It takes a tremendous amount of money to run these things and the teams will do whatever it takes to get it. If summit racing didn't want to sponsor Greg's team because of his arrogance or attitude he probably would not be driving that car. Erica just happens to bring a sponsor with her, can she drive? I don't know I pretty much believe a monkey could drive one. The deal is who can bring the money to the table gets the ride.

Yeah that "monkey" only ran a .51 to your hero's .53.And look at their RT's round 1.And she ran .55 to match the hero's et.Wow she bulbed by a whole .003.Think you can do that
crappy if you got a ride?

HR9121 08-02-2012 12:03 AM

Re: Erica & Greg?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Fernandez (Post 338477)
Yeah that "monkey" only ran a .51 to your hero's .53.And look at their RT's round 1.And she ran .55 to match the hero's et.Wow she bulbed by a whole .003.Think you can do that
crappy if you got a ride?

He's not my hero Ed, really don't care for him after I saw him blow a bunch of people off at a local track here. I am pretty impressed by Erica's reaction times and notice most every race hers and Nobile's are among the best but let's face it this is what they should be doing, its not like they have a 9 to 5 job where they don't have time to practice. Another thing I find humorous is that nobody says anything about Jeg's( don't blast me I like him) daddy cutting the checks. Oh yeah, I do think if I had one them rides I could do it if I didn't I wouldn't be racing but I'm sure we'll never know.:)

Jim Wahl 08-02-2012 02:23 AM

Re: Erica & Greg?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by D.Johns (Post 338401)
I disagree that the driver isn't that important. I think a great driver is absolutely a huge key ingredient in having a successful team. Erica's driving has certainly improved and it's showing in results. In a class that is separated by .07 from #1 and not getting in the show. The driver actually has to cut a light, change all gears and deal with how unstable the cars are on the top end with near zero downforce. I'd say the cars are quite difficult to drive one to the winners circle. Heck Johnson has a huge performance advantage(sitting in #1 spot most times ET/MPH) and he hasn't be dominate in the class(winning every race).
No doubt money is a massive key ingredient but all the money in the world isn't going to make up for a poor or even average driver.

I plan to eventually head to prostock within the next 6-10 years. I do not have the budget to run my own car yet but I'm working on it.

I really think you are wrong here. Drivers play a huge Part in winning. I was certainly not an Erica fan and I wouldn't say I am now however I think I recognize her talent and huge improvement in her driving lately.

Allen Johnson does not have a "huge" advantage. He has never qualified with .01 or .02 better than anyone. Now Anderson is the one who always seems to find .02 or .03 come eliminations time. He still does it with the new car but it just hasn't been enough yet to help him.

I really wouldn't wait ten years to start with your Pro Stock efforts as I really doubt there will be a Pro Stock class then. Jim



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