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Jeff Lee 03-10-2013 12:04 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bret Kepner (Post 372620)
Shocker in Florida! Chris Holbrook, (AAA/SA 2013 Cobra Jet), ran three consecutive runs of 8.54/159 in eliminations while the other finalist, Drew Skillman, (AA/SA 2012 Cobra Jet), hit 8.83/155, 8.80/155 and 8.71/156. In the final round, Holbrook clocked a brutal -1.19 8.510/160.19 but Skillman hit an astonishing -1.403 8.597 at 158.06, (remember, Drew is in AA/SA), to win! Congratulations to both for a weekend of drag racing history!

By the way, Randy Hopkins' SS/AAA 2012 Cobra Jet posted an 8.229 in qualifying and ran an early shut-off -1.164 8.236 at only 149 mph after redlighting in the opening round.

Well at least the Super Stock CJ's are still faster than the Stocker CJ's! :rolleyes:

rocknrolla 03-10-2013 01:03 PM

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Some images from the NMRA Bradenton Cobra Jet Showdown

http://i1207.photobucket.com/albums/...ps7b7e09d7.jpg

Cobra Jet Showdown winner Drew Skillman

http://i1207.photobucket.com/albums/...ps9a62c2f2.jpg

Staging lanes before finals

http://i1207.photobucket.com/albums/...ps01d3b09f.jpg

Chris Holbrook's AAA/SA 2013 Cobra Jet

http://i1207.photobucket.com/albums/...pscc9da969.jpg

Drew Skillman's AA/SA Cobra Jet

http://i1207.photobucket.com/albums/...ps7f155c32.jpg

Bo Butner's 2013 Cobra Jet

http://i1207.photobucket.com/albums/...ps87055079.jpg

Mike Harris is back racing in his 2013 Cobra Jet after a crash last year at Maryland International Raceway.

Superfan1 03-10-2013 01:12 PM

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From the Bradenton website; here are the Cobra Jet Showdown Rules:

Minimum weights and Index based on engine combination and Stock or Super Stock status:
Engine Combo Wt. w/driver Stk. Index SS Index
3V 4.6 3150 11.9 11.5
427/428 3200 10.6 10.2
5.0L NA 3150 11.4 11
352/363 3200 11.2 10.8
5.0L SC 3325 9.95 9.6
4.0L SC 5.4L 3250 N/A 9.3
2.3L SC 5.4L 3325 10.1 9.9

Holbrook's runs were indeed impressive because his index was 9.95 (5.0L SC 3325 9.95 9.6); but remember the AAA/SA index is 9.70 not 9.95
On the other hand Drew Skillman's index was 9.3 (4.0L SC 5.4L 3250 N/A 9.3). He was in Super Stock trim as noted by the 4.0L blower, and the fact that Stock was not an option as noted by the N/A for Stock index. He definitely was not in AA/SA trim. The qualifying sheet below verifies the indexes that were being used.

boostedf22c 03-10-2013 01:35 PM

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Badass!

troublemaker427 03-10-2013 01:36 PM

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Congrats to all of the CJ racers. You guys put on a great show. Looks like most of the "fast" guys all have a Holbrook decal on their car!!

By the way Mike Harris had his big crash at Cecil County not MIR.

chris ok 03-10-2013 01:44 PM

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what size slicks are allowed?

Bret Kepner 03-10-2013 04:06 PM

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Sorry, SuperFan1, (I don't know you real name), but you're wrong.

The qualifying sheet you posted was incorrect. The corrected sheet shows Drew qualified fourth and was on a 10.10 Index. Here are the top six qualifiers, (shown because all were one second under or more).

1. 3334 9.95 13 COBRA JET 302 CHRIS HOLBROOK LIVONIA MI 8.504 9.95 -1.446
2. 373 10.10 12 COBRA JET 331 BILL SKILLMAN GREENWOOD IN 8.764 10.10 -1.336
3. 1574 10.10 10 COBRA JET 330 FRANK MAIOLO MOUNT VERNON NY 8.872 10.10 -1.228
4. 3909 10.10 12 COBRA JET 331 DREW SKILLMAN GREENWOOD IN 8.893 10.10 -1.207
5. 158N 11.20 10 MUSTANG 352 EDDIE BROOKS DEER PARK NY 10.087 11.20 -1.113
6. 5333 9.30 13 MUSTANG 302 RANDY HOPKINS MISION TX 8.229 9.30 -1.071
7. 1225 9.95 MICHAEL HARRIS TELFORD PA 8.916 9.95 -1.034

Also, the rules you posted are from the 2012 event.

I understand you accepted what you found in print but both instances were incorrect. Please don't diminish Drew's effort. The Ford guys, (including Jesse Kershaw), consider this one of their biggest events.

Bret Kepner 03-10-2013 04:11 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by chris ok (Post 372655)
What size slicks are allowed?

Other than weights, the event uses NHRA rules to the letter; both Skillman and Holbrook were on nine-inchers.

Also, please note my little report offered ETs against current NHRA Indices to avoid confusion since most folks here aren't familiar with the NMRA standards.

Tim H 03-10-2013 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Dinsdale (Post 372618)
Quite possibly the best line of the year (so far). Not to take anything away from the accomplishment and I'm a Ford guy but let's get real.... Stock????

x3

troublemaker427 03-10-2013 04:53 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bret Kepner (Post 372669)
Sorry, SuperFan1, (I don't know you real name), but you're wrong.


I understand you accepted what you found in print but both instances were incorrect. Please don't diminish Drew's effort. The Ford guys, (including Jesse Kershaw), consider this one of their biggest events.

Well Brent, nobody is "diminishing" Drew's effort but the problem is with the NMRA not SuperFan1. Someone needs to be correcting them not someone who just takes the information they found on the internet and posting it here.
Maybe Ford Racing should have someone posting the information instead of a sanctioning body that doesn't appear to be able to get the facts straight...

Also, if things are like they were at Milan and Indy last year at least one of the fast cars is running a DOT radial, not slicks.

K Stubbs 03-10-2013 05:52 PM

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Some combos you can throw away your "ET Formula" on..Doesnt always work out that way.

Bret Kepner 03-10-2013 05:53 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by troublemaker427 (Post 372677)
Someone needs to be correcting them not someone who just takes the information they found on the internet and posting it here.

Hey, Troubelmaker427! (Sorry, don't know your name, either)

Guess where I'm getting my information?

The Internet.

D'oh.

Alex Denysenko 03-10-2013 06:23 PM

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[b]holy ****!!!!!!!!!![b]

KRatcliff 03-10-2013 06:26 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bret Kepner (Post 372685)
Hey, Troubelmaker427! (Sorry, don't know your name, either)

Guess where I'm getting my information?

The Internet.

D'oh.

Superfan1 is Bill Seabrooks and Troublemaker427 is Jody Aberts. Both of their names are in their signatures.

Alex Denysenko 03-10-2013 06:38 PM

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Holy *****!!!!!!!!!!

Tom Meyer 03-10-2013 06:40 PM

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Man those guys are flying on 9in tires, is there a point on drag tires with speed and weight where you cross the line on safety. I am sure when they first came out with the 9in radial tire they thought low 9s was as fast as they would go. Tom

art leong 03-10-2013 10:16 PM

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If they come to Gainesville and they run the combo class It will probably be "horsepower on Tuesday".

boostedf22c 03-11-2013 12:48 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by art leong (Post 372737)
If they come to Gainesville and they run the combo class It will probably be "horsepower on Tuesday".

I hope they come, and I hope they floor it. :)

art leong 03-11-2013 07:03 AM

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Carey you'll give them fits in the stick combo. But you'll have to let them leave first.

DanGrippo 03-11-2013 07:43 AM

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Does anyone know if Holbook's and Butner's cars are new cars, or have they updated the bumpers and hoods?

Comp 798 03-11-2013 10:36 AM

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Holbrook's car is one of three 2010 cars that were built like the turn key cars, less drive train. Chris did the 352 for his and 428 motors for Brian Wolfe and the test car that Ronzello drove. All stockers.

Changes to the chassis and drive train started immediately. When he built the 2010 blower motor for stock, the car went to B&B for a complete suspension and chassis upgrade.

The 2010's became 2012's without any body work once the 2010 motors got beat up with HP. The 2012 blower motors for stock are significantly different.

Chris's car is still the 2010 with 2013 body upgrade (like the late model Firebirds and Camaros did), hood, front and rear fascia, grille, headlights and taillights.

The Coyote motor has better heads and a 2.9 blower instead of 2.4. Way faster.....

Superfan1 03-11-2013 01:22 PM

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Bret, my name is at the bottom of all of my posts, and I wasn't trying to diminish Drew's, or anyone else's, efforts and accomplishments. I am a diehard Ford fan, and I love what the CJs have accomplished. I was simply posting what I thought was accurate information from legitimate sources.

Bret Kepner 03-11-2013 04:44 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Superfan1 (Post 372810)
Bret, my name is at the bottom of all of my posts.

Well, I guess I owe Bill and Jody an apology. I've never been able to see any signatures on the board...not even my OWN! I checked the settings and everything seems fine.

I've always had another weird problem with this board. When I'm not logged in, I see the posts in chronological order. When I'm logged in, each thread begins with the most recent reply. Is that normal?

Comp 798 03-11-2013 04:58 PM

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Brett and anyone else:

If you go to User CP on the tool bar at the top and click on it, you can then go to Settings & Options. Under that heading choose Edit Ooptions and click on it.

Now go to Thread Display Options, Visible Post Elements and put a check mark in Show Signature, as well as anthing else you choose.

When your done scroll to the bottome and click on Save Changes.

Todd Geisler 03-11-2013 05:44 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Lee (Post 372616)
Leaving soft, inadequate tire, etc., all factor in. The equation assumes a no-compromise race car. Still, a remarkably fast run!

I'm curious to know what you say it's an inadequate tire? it's a 9 x 30 radial correct?

Superfan1 03-11-2013 05:46 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bret Kepner (Post 372832)
Well, I guess I owe Bill and Jody an apology. I've never been able to see any signatures on the board...not even my OWN! I checked the settings and everything seems fine.

I've always had another weird problem with this board. When I'm not logged in, I see the posts in chronological order. When I'm logged in, each thread begins with the most recent reply. Is that normal?

Yes, that is normal.

Jeff Lee 03-11-2013 08:02 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Todd Geisler (Post 372841)
I'm curious to know what you say it's an inadequate tire? it's a 9 x 30 radial correct?


Inadequate for the HP & TQ the engine makes. I understand the class requires nothing larger than a 9x30. But then again, that rule has been around since 500HP was a killer engine. These engines are somewhere around double. Three tenths is left in that combo and it's there to be found. The reality is, it doesn't need to be found. Not today anyways!

Todd Geisler 03-11-2013 08:06 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Lee (Post 372870)
Inadequate for the HP & TQ the engine makes. I understand the class requires nothing larger than a 9x30. But then again, that rule has been around since 500HP was a killer engine. These engines are somewhere around double. Three tenths is left in that combo and it's there to be found. The reality is, it doesn't need to be found. Not today anyways!

Not sure how you figure that tire is inadequate. We run on a 275/60-15 DOT drag radial tire and run 1.15 60's consistently, 1.12 best. I have not had any problems with that tire handling 1080 hp at 2925 lbs. My tire is 10" tread, but less sidewall at only 28" tall.

Granted, apples to oranges comparing a street legal DOT to a radial slick, but very similar constructed tires. What one gives up in width it picks up in rollout.

rocknrolla 03-12-2013 01:46 PM

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https://plus.google.com/u/0/b/108751...83724827/posts

ALMACK 03-13-2013 07:46 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by boostedf22c (Post 372755)
I hope they come, and I hope they floor it. :)

X 2.

Those cars are very impressive, no doubt.


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